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#46    frogfish

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 11:09 PM

i guess because of sharks in general...PAULWHALE!!!!! THIS IS NOT A SPERM WHALE THREAD!!!!! STOP THAT! >:(

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 11:15 PM

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 12:06 AM

Looks like Paulwhale is anoying people in both of these threads. If hes so into whales, maybe he should start a topic only about whales, he can even use the link I provided on the other forum, page 12 I believe.

As for Megs, I think they may possibly be around, though not as large as they used to be. Or for all I know, they could be larger.

The deepest parts of the oceans havent been explored, at least not completely. Lord knows what grows down beside the Tube Worms and Giant Clams near the thermal vents.

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 01:02 AM

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 01:47 AM

Mr. Vort...you can calm down....

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 01:57 AM

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  If megs were still around and competion with sperm whales is heavy. Maybe that is the real reasons boats completely disappear in the Bermuda Triangle and other areas. Maybe like a meg watched a spermwhale take his meal, got peeved, stormed to the surface and munches a party boat. I'm not trying to be funny. I think its possible. I live 20 minutes from the Jersey Shore on the border of Ocean County and I won't step foot it that water.
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Posted 19 October 2005 - 02:06 AM

this is why im studing marine biology!!

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 09:17 AM

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why people are so affraid of megalodons


Paul, use that thing between your ears.

For argument sake in the last 50 years, how many people swimming have been attacked by S/W's ? Now how many have been attacked by sharks ? Now imagine the thought of a shark swimming around larger than any known at this point in time.


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Posted 19 October 2005 - 08:00 PM

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Paul, use that thing between your ears.

For argument sake in the last 50 years, how many people swimming have been attacked by S/W's ? Now how many have been attacked by sharks ? Now imagine the thought of a shark swimming around larger than any known at this point in time.
Gee, that wasn't hard when you think about it   rolleyes.gif
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apart from some people, I am using this thing, if you didn't know that, in 19 century, for every killed whale there was one dead man, same ratio with sharks was much more in favor of humans then.

I am just saying that sperm whale is far more dangerous than any shark, if sperm whales would be attacking swimming people, it would be far more dangerous than sjark attack, but anyway, SORRY EVERYBODY, I am not gonna write anything about sperm whales here anymore.

I don't think that there are any megalodons here left, but I may be wrong.

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 09:16 PM

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I don't think that there are any megalodons here left, but I may be wrong.

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 11:00 PM

We are probably underestimating the number of real shark attacks.  Only the ones in which the victim is recovered are actually counted.  There are hundreds, if not thousands of situations every year in which people in the water simply "disappear".  Many, even most of these could be predation by "larger" sharks, but even killer whales and some exceptionally large bony fish.  Sperm whales too are capable of swallowing humans, but being deeper water animals, they would encounter humans in their environment very infrenquently.  One modern case of probable sperm whale human predation was a matching pair of rubber boots found in a stomach.  Everything less durable had been digested away, and highly unlikely the whale would have swallowed two matching boots floating in the water.  One maybe, but not a matching pair.


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Posted 20 October 2005 - 01:50 AM

and Jonah and the Whale

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Posted 20 October 2005 - 11:01 AM

Frogfish, the hebrew word used in describing the creature in the book of Jonah is "Tannyn" which is normally translated to "dragon", or to fundamentalists, "dinosaur".  It was changed to "fish" or "whale" in modern times simply because most people don't believe in dragons anymore, and thougt this would make the bible more "realistic".  In ancient Christian art, made before modern editors "changed" the bible, the creature depicted as swallowing Jonah is a very reptilian looking, long necked, "dragon" which was well known in all the cultures of the ancient mediterranean basin.
Since you apparently believe in God of the Bible, use some common sense here.  How could a person survive even minutes if swallowed by a fish or whale?  Now consider that the bible clearly states the the highest heavenly servant creatures are the seraphim "dragons".  Such an intelligent creature, with specific instruction not to kill Jonah, could have held him alive in its throat.  The early Christians fully understood this, which is why Jonah is always being shown swallowed by a dragon in their artwork.  The tendency to turn all dragons into evil creatures began in the middle ages when the christian doctrine changed to say they were "creatures of Satan", etc to terrorize the peasants into obedience to the church.  Saint Augustine for example, when commenting on dragons gave them no evil connotations but said instead that such magnificent beasts magnified the glory of God for it was He that created them.


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Posted 20 October 2005 - 11:39 PM

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 12:16 PM

Uh huh, Frogfish, more magical hocus pocus.  What's your explanation then why the original Hebrew scripture said it was a "dragon", and the early Christians always depicted it as a "dragon"?, and why these same "dragons" reside in heaven and sing praises to God?  I'm not making this up, the scriptures are in your Bible, you can translate the words from the original hebrew, and you can see all of the "Jonah dragons" from Christian art in Museums, (and also the mosaics and ancient ivory Bible covers depicting the soul-devouring, "Covering Cherub-dragons that form God's living throne).  So is all the ancient Hebrew and Christian scriptures and archaeological evidence "wrong" and modern fundamentalists have "seen the light" and believe the "praise singing dragons",  are nothing more than walnut-brained dinosaurs that survived a world wide flood as passengers on Noah's ark?  Now which theory really seems stupider?  The one based on Biblical scripture and archaeology which my book documents, or the one which was simply "invented" by a Christian fundamentalist "cult" in the last 50 years or so?  But then, fundies still don't realize that the fantasy fallen angel "Lucifer" is nothing more than a translation mistake that never existed, and that their  minsisters are terrorizing their congregations over nonexistent demons simply plagiarised from pagen theologies, that are causing "distubed" mothers to drown their children in bathtubs.

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