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#16    GreenmansGod

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Posted 26 September 2005 - 05:02 AM

Here is a history of the Baptist church in the States.

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When I was a kid I was sent to Baptist Bible school.  My mom wanted us to have something to do during the summer and out of her hair.  
She wasn't a Christian, but the neighbors were Baptist and the bus would pick us up.  
Brainwashing yup, there was lots of that.  Repeating Bible verses over and over is brainwashing.  It didn't hurt me, I got over it.  I am a Neo-Pagan, now.  Although sometimes I am haunted with lines of "Jesus loves me yes I know..."  AHHHHH, Make it stop!

Event Horizon, your friend will eventually come out of his fog. Be patent with him.  In the mean time don't let him suck you in to something you don't want to be part of.  

For those who read the history site, my ancestors were founding members of the first Baptist Church in American under with Roger Williams.  All things considered I think it is very strange.  



  
  




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Posted 26 September 2005 - 05:11 AM

Most baptist ive known were southern baptist and they werent to much different from non denominational christians. There not that different like Mormons.

Did he say he didnt want friends or didnt need friends?
And I doubt the camp taught him that. He probly has a case of pride.
Just cause someone religious thinks or does crazy things doesnt mean everyone was in on it. Could just be him whose crazy.


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Posted 26 September 2005 - 11:55 AM

Im a Baptist, and ive never heard that kinda talk from a SBC Church, Southern Baptist Convention. But ive run into alot of so called baptist, some of them not al go by "Consevative or fundamental baptist. The church that i know of thats like the one you mentioned was kicked out of the SBC for crazy beliefs and hate speech towards Islam and Arabs. And keep in mind that alot of cults use the name game, just to get into the mainstream.

Darkwind, that link is way off, For example it calls Bill Clinton a prominate Baptist, thats like calling Micheal Jackson normal.

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Posted 26 September 2005 - 12:08 PM

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this Bible camp sounds like serious brain washing. Who knows what goes on in those places; I would rather join the Taliban than one of those unless it was honest, unbiased study of the Bible.

All Christian indoctrination is a form of brainwashing, always has been.  It does seem that the course of that camp might be a little extreme, or the individual is extremely receptive to brainwashing.

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this Bible camp sounds like serious brain washing. Who knows what goes on in those places; I would rather join the Taliban than one of those unless it was honest, unbiased study of the Bible.

When I was a kid (back in the stone age), the Baptists were a very liberal organization, but a while back the conservative evangeliticals took control and now they might as well be Church of Christ or Mormon for all the dogma they have adopted.  Sorry, Baptist is one of the last denominations that I would choose were I ever to lose my mind and convert! yes.gif

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Posted 26 September 2005 - 12:18 PM

What ok, if your not a baptist you cannot say what they are or are not! And Baptist SBC atleast are nothing like the Church of Christ or Mormon. And i dont like the sharp lil shots at Christianity or Baptist, this is broad generalization. For example i used to work with a pagan. She told me the her and her friends would take their kids and go and perform excercises in the nude in the woods. Now those people are sick, but that doesnt mean all pagans are like that. And calling bible or youth camps brainwashing, just b.c you had exp doesnt mean all are like that. I actually have worked at youth camps since i was 18, and none of them have been like that. The SBC has done alot of Good to, but of coarse you never hear about that.

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Posted 26 September 2005 - 12:35 PM

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Now those people are sick

Why is that sick?  Are Baptists sick because they teach their religion to their children?  Is the human body repulsive?  Underneath your clothing you are nude, you just have these hangups pressed on you by some men that died between 3000-1900 years ago.  There is nothing wrong with practicing your religion with your children, even in the nude....the human body was created by the Creator (in a round about way) and is beautiful (even the fattest and oldest).   yes.gif

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Posted 26 September 2005 - 12:39 PM

I didnt go into detail what they did, lets just say all the adults involved are in jail crying.gif  But my point was i did not judge all pagans,b/c of the acts of a few. In the same way i think all religions and cultures should not be judged by the acts of the minority.

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Posted 26 September 2005 - 10:16 PM

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But my point was i did not judge all pagans,b/c of the acts of a few. In the same way i think all religions and cultures should not be judged by the acts of the minority.


He wasn't really generalizing. Maybe you should re-read this part, because I don't know of any evangelical that isn't:

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....the Baptists were a very liberal organization, but a while back the conservative evangeliticals took control and now they might as well be Church of Christ or Mormon for all the dogma they have adopted....


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I didnt go into detail what they did, lets just say all the adults involved are in jail crying.gif

What is that supposed to mean? Going in the woods with others naked for ritual or religious purpose is one thing, even if you are 1 or 100. Going into the woods for child pornography and prostitution and calling it a religious ritual is another. Please do not think people going into the woods naked -- even children -- means this.

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For example i used to work with a pagan.

Out of curiosity, what did she tell you about herself other than she was Pagan? Pagan is even broader than Christian, Muslim, and Jew combined.

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Posted 26 September 2005 - 11:16 PM

I think the "conservative baptists" are the ones that wear coat and tie when they are handling their rattlesnakes and driving "demons" out of people.


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Posted 27 September 2005 - 04:06 AM

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Good ole Benny Hinn He is my favorite crook there was a very enlightening prime time on him, wHat I don't understand is how people can fall for that and not just a few but thousands?????NAMASTE SHERI


Gene Scott (a deceased preacher, TV of couse, based in Los Angeles) would have given Hinn a good run for his money.  I would watch occassionally just for the entertainment value.  The guy had a great number of hats, which he changed into quite often, reminded me of the western serials I watched as a kid.  He would "teach" from the Old Testament mostly, and just as it was getting interesting, show is ending, tune in next time for a continuation.  Then backtrack, to where the majority of the next program was a rehash of the previous one.  Scott's premise was that if you listened to him preach, you owed him a tithe, 10 % of your gross income, and darned if enought suckers (mostly poor) people bought into it to make him a very rich man, flying around in a Lear jet, and all.  Just another money making Christian preacher, is all.   notworthy.gif


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Posted 27 September 2005 - 11:31 AM

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I think the "conservative baptists" are the ones that wear coat and tie when they are handling their rattlesnakes and driving "demons" out of people.

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Posted 30 September 2005 - 06:05 PM

Well the way to the Christian Heaven is through Jesus Christ not by being Baptist.

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 11:49 PM

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I had a friend whos a baptist, over the last three weeks he went to a bible camp, but when he came back he changed completly.He started to say he didn need friends he had god and that if we would be his friend he would get us into heaven, and that his religion was the only true one. Now me being a christian thought this to be a joke and im thinkin baptists are a fundamentalist group rather than a religion.Give me your opinions


I live in Florida and there are a lot of Baptist churches in this area.  They are a very conservative denomination and adhere to their beliefs strongly.  From my personal experiences, they do try very hard to "convert" or to so called "save" others.  In my town, they even go door to door at times trying to "convert" or "save" people.  I think they mean well and don't intend to be pushy, but in my opinion they are.  This friend of yours is most likely trying to convert you to being Baptist.  However, he should respect your religion even if it differs from his, if he is a true friend.


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Posted 10 October 2005 - 03:12 AM

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I had a friend whos a baptist, over the last three weeks he went to a bible camp, but when he came back he changed completly.He started to say he didn need friends he had god and that if we would be his friend he would get us into heaven, and that his religion was the only true one. Now me being a christian thought this to be a joke and im thinkin baptists are a fundamentalist group rather than a religion.Give me your opinions



It is a religion, it's just that your friend has taken things a little too seriously.  Youth and vigor tends to do that kind of thing with just about any view presented that they decide to adopt.

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Posted 11 October 2005 - 12:44 AM

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I had a friend whos a baptist, over the last three weeks he went to a bible camp, but when he came back he changed completly.He started to say he didn need friends he had god and that if we would be his friend he would get us into heaven, and that his religion was the only true one. Now me being a christian thought this to be a joke and im thinkin baptists are a fundamentalist group rather than a religion.Give me your opinions


The true religion, the only one that God accepts, is in the King James version New Testament. [KJV is translated from the unaltered original texts.]
Read that and ask God to explain to you what it means, if you want to go to heaven.
[There are a few other bibles translated from the same texts, but only a few. The market is full of fake bibles that have the words changed. - over 200 of them.]






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