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#1    analog_warrior

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 06:14 PM

Has anyone ever heard that the government is always monitoring everything? Phones, computers, radio's, even this? I've heard of a secret underground base that listens to phone calls and starts recording when chosen words (like bomb or president) and then gets analyzed later. I'm pretty freaked out about it. They could be watching right NOW!

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 06:21 PM

Why?  Are you doing something that you shouldn't?

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 06:28 PM

There is not enough people in the world to track and listen to every single phone call worldwide. Phone companys do record phone calls using systems, so if you want a phone log, you can go and receive it, but Im not sure to the exact degree that they hold every persons phone calls. I think it's a benefit you might be able to pay for.  

So in short... no, the government does not scan all phone calls / e-mails / radios and the such. HOWEVER, they do have the power to do it, and they WOULD do it, if for some reason you were under surveillance.

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 06:40 PM

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Phone companys do record phone calls using systems, so if you want a phone log, you can go and receive it, but Im not sure to the exact degree that they hold every persons phone calls. I think it's a benefit you might be able to pay for.  


Incorrect. Phone companies have a pay per use "call trace" type of service that can be activated immediatlely after hanging up. This logs such information as originating #, location and length of call. This information would not be readily available to the general public but would require a warrant to release due to privacy laws.

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 07:19 PM

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Incorrect. Phone companies have a pay per use "call trace" type of service that can be activated immediatlely after hanging up. This logs such information as originating #, location and length of call. This information would not be readily available to the general public but would require a warrant to release due to privacy laws.


Thanks for correcting me. I know the government has a way to see your phone log. They would more or less record every call.

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 07:36 PM

heh, paronoia.
I doubt that they actually do do that. as what was stated before, that'd only happen if you are under survallence for some reason and the police are trying to catch you red handed. but yeah, they'd need a warrent first, and they usually last only 2 weeks, sometimes.

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 08:26 PM

Isn't there some super computer called `THE BEAST` that records and then searches for phrases or keywords...Anyway, that`s what the local 'cult' leader, read youth group, says...Then I thought, that computer would have to have some seriously wicked voice recognition software...Damn half baked theories always spread like a disease among the weak first.

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 10:12 PM

yes, they have a search engine that searches everyone's email for a keyword...my Political & Economics teacher told us

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Posted 05 October 2005 - 01:11 AM

I think it seems highly unlikely that the government could do this, it seems a little too farfetched.  Plus they would be able to stop the majority of domestic terrorism and criminal acts.


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Posted 05 October 2005 - 10:49 AM

This thread seems more suited to the conspiracy forum to me  hmm.gif

I'd say judging by the fact that people are still able to get away with organisingextremeist attacks, viewing child pornography and organising internet suicicde packs the government are not monitoring everything.
And if they are they are doing a very poor job


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Posted 05 October 2005 - 12:32 PM

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This thread seems more suited to the conspiracy forum to me  hmm.gif

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Azalin, perhaps I misunderstood when you said record. I assumed you were saying the telephone conversation was recorded. They do however keep a record of calls. Originating #, destination #, length of call. This is called billing.

I have heard and reasonably believe that its true that government agencies do monitor calls to a certain extent, but when you think of the sheer number of phone calls (both landline and cellular), email, instant messages, text messages, etc. that are sent every day. I hardly think that anything but a very small percentage ever gets monitored.



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Posted 05 October 2005 - 09:10 PM

I doubt it; we're too boring. Who'd wanna watch us constantly? The government? The governments boring in the first place.

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Or the government could be watching us to see if we are safe... who knows? grin2.gif

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Posted 05 October 2005 - 11:06 PM

Well, I'm using voice recognition technology right now to compose this comment. And this is with a puny, consumer grade computer and consumer grade voice recognition software.
Just imagine what the government could do with a billion-dollar supercomputer and specialized software.


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Posted 05 October 2005 - 11:57 PM

well Echelon is real , and I'd imagine they have even better stuff now, that hasn't come out in the public light

with all this "terror" goin on, you'd think they'd be trying to improve these systems

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Posted 06 October 2005 - 12:18 AM

ok i dont think this is a secret (as ive seen TV shows on the subject)

what youre talking about is the job of the office of the US gov. known as the NSA

i cant say that they monitor all correspondence but they do monitor a great deal

they have super computers set up to monitor phone calls for 'key' words


as for organized crime,  it has evolved over the years

meaning the criminals are all not as stupid as the used to be

john gotti never telephoned sammy gravano and told him to whack someone

im sure they have a code they use while on an open line

and to anyone with enough money and limited knowledge you can purchase a device that will let you operate a secure encrypted telephone line






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