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#16    Infrazael

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Posted 13 October 2005 - 04:23 PM

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is there already a thread on karma.?? i searched but didnt run into nothing ..

anyways my question is to you all., is..

what do you believe karma is a form of ? i mean do you believe in karma as in doing a good deed will bring you good and viseversa for doing bad or is it spiritual or is it a form of intellects the way the mind works with the choices you have to make and whether you do the right or bad choice. ..

thoughts anyone .?


Karma can be avoided through various means. Karma is just one of many things that the universe is composed of. Thinking that karma is the "be all end all" thing gives it too much credit.

Yes "karma" (fate, rebound action, etc) is powerful, but it's not impossible to overcome.

Or, even better, don't believe in it.


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Posted 13 October 2005 - 04:25 PM

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Karma can be avoided through various means.

Interesting that you mention that. What other means besides not believing in it?

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Posted 13 October 2005 - 04:35 PM


The word 'karma' means action and 'dharma' is the ability of mind by which it takes right decision before any action.

The debate on the the 'karmic theory' is endless. But, what I think is....

If you do something good, you will instantly feel good (happier and satisfied).
If you do something bad, the opposite will happen.
For your every action, there is a reaction (good or bad feeling) in your mind.

Forget about the consequences later in your life or even after life.
Don't you think, the believers of this theory, will get a good guidance for their actions?
But, yes, you can surely be 'good' without believing in this theory.   original.gif



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Posted 13 October 2005 - 05:16 PM


If you do something good, you will instantly feel good (happier and satisfied).
If you do something bad, the opposite will happen.
For your every action, there is a reaction (good or bad feeling) in your mind.


interesting you said this.. because i believe the same thin but in a sense that when you do something good you will instantly feel good so as a pattern of feeling good and living good. any little thing common that happens to you later whether if its finding a $20 bill or $50 or recieving a gift from someone of anything.. automatically the mind or you asa person think its your good karma but in reality that could of happen to anyone with a bad karma pattern in life. i could of stole somethin from someone and people would think oh.. he will get bad karma coming to him.. but never will and and if something happen to me bad later in life then autmatically its because of what i did bad inthe past .!  which i think is BS. ou know ...

hm.. we all have our paths in life and good deed and bad deed we will run into everyday through out life.. doesnt mean its because we did good or bad..




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Posted 16 October 2005 - 02:28 AM

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karma, is like everything else in the "spritual" arena.  It is about what YOU perceive and not about something external to the individual.  Some liken it to self fulfilling prophecy.  In essence, you create it, you enable it, you find it, you justify a belief in it.  It is only as real and powerful as you make it to be (for yourself).


I don't get it, whats the use of having a  Spirituality, Religion and Beliefs forum if people treat it like the  Spirituality & Skepticism forum?


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Posted 16 October 2005 - 05:00 PM

I agree with judging your actions based on your intuitive instincts (feel good - do good, feel bad - do bad). But is it reincarnation karma which matters most. Eg if you kill someone in this lifetime, you might end up their wife next lifetime!?

It is difficult to judge but I tend to beleive in reincarnation karma, but I can't understand What comes around, Goes around for everyday actions. Living life to the utmost highest level in all cases, and apologise if you do wrong etc, should rule out the karma effect, right?
But what about accidents, etc?



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Posted 16 October 2005 - 05:43 PM

I agree with Hyper you are decidng in every moment what things mean to you every act every word is a statement of who you are, if you come to a situation where it seems disadvantaged its about what you think, what it means to you, not the other person but you. Each person here in this topic is giving their perspective on what Karma means to them, Now heres mine for every action there is a reaction thus Karma. many humans like humanizing assigning qualitys to a  neutral universe Its all about you, this is your life you decide what it means. Namaste sheri


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Posted 16 October 2005 - 06:07 PM

yeah , i beleave that karma is based upon two ways. ovbiously good or bad. i think it playd a role in our past and future lives.


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Posted 17 October 2005 - 08:16 AM


About 'karmic theory' and past or future life (incarnation) :-

If something bad happens to me, and I do not find anything reasonable why that has happened to me, as I have always done good in past,  from my perspective. The 'evil' in me try to become a rebellion saying - 'I have done nothing wrong, still evil has happened to me'. This will give an excuse to do 'evil' myself, if I am a non-believer. But, if I justify those by 'assuming' that it might having something to do with my 'past life'. Although this seems highly ridiculous, it certainly will help me to tolerate 'bad or evil' and prevent me doing anything 'evil' myself. And ofcourse, everyone hope for a better future, a better life next time, if you believe in future incarnation.

This is from my personal experience. I have felt 'God' very near to me, although I still question him, sometime -

Why that 'evil' has happened to me, at the first place?
Why did not 'He' prevent it?

Trying to convince myself of the 'karmic theory' and to draw some strength to keep on walking on the right path..................

Is 'He' listening?



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Posted 17 October 2005 - 11:25 PM

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About 'karmic theory' and past or future life (incarnation) :-

If something bad happens to me, and I do not find anything reasonable why that has happened to me, as I have always done good in past,  from my perspective. The 'evil' in me try to become a rebellion saying - 'I have done nothing wrong, still evil has happened to me'. This will give an excuse to do 'evil' myself, if I am a non-believer. But, if I justify those by 'assuming' that it might having something to do with my 'past life'. Although this seems highly ridiculous, it certainly will help me to tolerate 'bad or evil' and prevent me doing anything 'evil' myself. And ofcourse, everyone hope for a better future, a better life next time, if you believe in future incarnation.

This is from my personal experience. I have felt 'God' very near to me, although I still question him, sometime -

Why that 'evil' has happened to me, at the first place?
Why did not 'He' prevent it?

Trying to convince myself of the 'karmic theory' and to draw some strength to keep on walking on the right path..................

Is 'He' listening?


i guess my questioning would be diffeent as in ..

if evil happened to me.. wheres the god that everyone believes in .??
could he not prevent this from happening because hes not there.??
is he listening.??  well maybe if he exists but if so .. why couldnt he help me if he has the power to .. everyone worships this god but he so selfish because he doesnt show us he exists..

these are questions i be thinking about .. this is how serious my questioning gets.. and it sucks because theres no answers.. i guess it is what it is.. death has answers to all questions. right .?...



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Posted 18 October 2005 - 02:33 PM




Galatians Ch 6:7

Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. 8The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature[a]will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. 9Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. 10Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers.
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Posted 21 October 2005 - 09:11 PM




There is a very nice book titled The absolte law of Karma  whic hcan be downloaded  ( free, public domain) at http://www.awgp.org/english/books/books_english.html

It has some words from Sanskrit ( an ancient indian language) but overall, I loved this book as it answered many of hte questions that I had.

Hope you enjoy it also. Let me know

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is there already a thread on karma.?? i searched but didnt run into nothing ..

anyways my question is to you all., is..

what do you believe karma is a form of ? i mean do you believe in karma as in doing a good deed will bring you good and viseversa for doing bad or is it spiritual or is it a form of intellects the way the mind works with the choices you have to make and whether you do the right or bad choice. ..

thoughts anyone .?




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Posted 21 October 2005 - 09:20 PM

This thought keeps niggling in the back of my mind: Is Karma just an excuse to not take responsibility for our own actions in the past?


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Posted 22 October 2005 - 10:06 AM

Please read this book: The absolte law of Karma which can be downloaded ( free, public domain) at http://www.awgp.org/english/books/books_english.html

I think the answer to your question is in this book.





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This thought keeps niggling in the back of my mind: Is Karma just an excuse to not take responsibility for our own actions in the past?







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