Your reply reveals that you clearly don't know enough about this subject to even discuss it with me. If your biblical knowledge is based on nothing but "Sunday School stories" and "modern" bibles which have been edited for centuries to satisfy each new emerging Christian cult, you haven't heard of half the things I am talking about. There are numerous other Jewish and early Christian texts which supplement the the Bible and make more sense of it, particularly about the Seraphim and Cherubim dragons. Biblical Dragons including Satan were intended to be frightening, terrible things, but this does not make them "evil". They are like our "Police" today, sometimes seeming intimidating, but not "evil" to "law abiding citizens" as heavenly dragons were harmless to the righteous. But yes, as world wide legends attest, they are far from "harmless" to peoples whose practices are abhorrent to God. There are references of them devouring humans in both biblical contexts, and the majority of dragon legends around the world.... it's a "dragon thing".
If you are really interested in how dragons really relate to the Bible, I suggest you read my book. You will even discover where in the Bible Moses was partially swallowed by a Seraphim Dragon, and what saved him and ordered the dragon to spew him out. You will also see when the dragon in the Jonah story was changed from a dragon to a "great fish". I bet you don't even know that EVERY depiction of Jonah being swallowed depicted in ancient times portrays a seraphim dragon, and NOT a fish or whale. The description of a 7 headed dragon in Revelation is of course symbolic, because it was intended to represent Rome with its seven hills.
But ancient Christains fully understood Satan himself was a one headed Seraphim dragon as verified by ancient Christian church mosaics and other artwork. As I said before, that whole bit about the dragon wrapped in chains, locked in the abbyss, etc. is stolen directly from Zorastrian religious texts that are hundreds of years older. This isn't religion bashing, it is stating historical facts.
I am not "bashing" any religion, just stating undisputable facts about the pagan origins of the Christianity of today, and far harsher stuff goes on every day in the "Sprituality and Religion" section of UM. Believe it or not, it is possible to be a Christian, and NOT believe in all the false texts copied from pagan religions which the new testament is filled with. Its not Jesus' fault that his pagan recruits perverted his teachings with the nonsense they added about pagan greek demons, everlasting torture in pagan greek hades, and denigrating the highest heavenly servants with Zorastrian persian "dragon-bashing". But it is for these reasons that He probably did not return in their lifetime, as it clearly states he would, in at least five different new testament scriptures. When a scripture predicts something that doesn't come true, then it is a "false" scripture. A simple concept, really.
But this is completely off-topic now. But to return to it, I would reiterate that dinosaurs and humans could never have coexisted becasue they are seperated by 65 million years, and no fossil evidence exists of them living after that time. Nor is their any evidence od men living in the time of dinosuars. The only mammals around then were tiny, primitive things. However, if the God of the Bible is real, that theology clearly states that the highest heavenly creatures are dinosaur-like, fearsome flying reptiles commonly called "dragons" that virtually every human culture in the world claims to have lived in the time of their ancestors. But the fact that there are no "dragon fossils" despite the untold number of sightings and legends only proves the point. If these dragons are the Seraphim of the Bible, they never die so their bones will never be found.
Edited by draconic chronicler, 16 October 2005 - 03:43 PM.