[chunga]

I have traveled to the Superstition's twice in my futile search for the fabled Lost Dutchman Mine. Iam still poor unfortunately. I have aquired much data and lore on the subject yet need information on Maria Jones . She led a haphazard yet diligent party of seekers for many years. If you know of her happenings or whereabouts after she left the superstitions I would like very much to hear the story of what became of her.

Any lore or experiences anyone has in the area or in trying to find the mine, also Please do tell all. I know how secretive prospector's can be so this may be a tough endeavor. THANKS

[iaapac]

You might try reading "Quest for the Dutchman’s Gold” by Robert Sikorsky. Tales of searching for LDM in the party of Celeste Jones in the 1960s. Generally regarded as a well written and accurate record.

The old Jacob Waltz mine is as elusive as any known and I have personal doubts that it will ever be found.

[chunga]

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You might try reading "Quest for the Dutchman’s Gold” by Robert Sikorsky. Tales of searching for LDM in the party of Celeste Jones in the 1960s. Generally regarded as a well written and accurate record.

The old Jacob Waltz mine is as elusive as any known and I have personal doubts that it will ever be found.

Thank You, I have met Bob and spoke to him at length regarding those college days of his, Hhe is unaware of Maria's life post her courageous search. He is an impressive writer and a fun man to hang with once you get him talking about the old days as he puts it.

[iaapac]

I seem to remember the name, Hope Root. As I recall, she found what appeared to be a storage pit for the gold. Perhaps it was a pit from the days of the Spaniards who reported knew of the mine but I assume it would have to be near the site.

[Koume]

Is this in any way related to the flying Dutchman? That ghost ship? o.o;

[chunga]

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Is this in any way related to the flying Dutchman? That ghost ship? o.o;

No, its not associated with that subject. It gets confusing all the different myths and legends. This is briefly the story of a german prospector who came to california and mined for many years and ended up penniless and ill at an elderly age. He did however make one last attempt to strike it rich in the Superstition Mountains and came out ill and dying. Going to his friend's home for comfort and tendin to he told of hitting the big one and left directions on his deathbed to 2 people. Said it was worth millions and millions. A mine so rich you could almost take a spoon and scoop it off the walls.
All these years many have searched and many have died and all with a crumpled yellow map stating here lies the gold, dig here. Yet none have been able to prove its existence and some are just plain missing.
Thats such a bare facts account, its really a great mystery and fun to research.

[angrycrustacean]

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No, its not associated with that subject. It gets confusing all the different myths and legends. This is briefly the story of a german prospector who came to california and mined for many years and ended up penniless and ill at an elderly age. He did however make one last attempt to strike it rich in the Superstition Mountains and came out ill and dying. Going to his friend's home for comfort and tendin to he told of hitting the big one and left directions on his deathbed to 2 people. Said it was worth millions and millions. A mine so rich you could almost take a spoon and scoop it off the walls.
All these years many have searched and many have died and all with a crumpled yellow map stating here lies the gold, dig here. Yet none have been able to prove its existence and some are just plain missing.
Thats such a bare facts account, its really a great mystery and fun to research.

If I was dying, I'd do something like that. Tell my grandchildren I had $3 million in a Swiss bank for them.

[iaapac]

Reportedly he had driven rocks into cactus to point the direction to the needle's eye that dramatically cast a light on the spot. But cactus' turn as they grow, thus supposedly eliminating this clue. I have always wondered why the speed of that turning could not be calculated and then reverse the turning to the time of Waltz's reported discovery.

[chunga]

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Reportedly he had driven rocks into cactus to point the direction to the needle's eye that dramatically cast a light on the spot. But cactus' turn as they grow, thus supposedly eliminating this clue. I have always wondered why the speed of that turning could not be calculated and then reverse the turning to the time of Waltz's reported discovery.

Jacob Waltz told his friend that she should look for a wickedly twisted cactus then look south east and she would be looking at the site on weavers needle that the mine was in.'
The problem is there are millions of odd, mishapen twisted cactus.
So may clues and over the years so many theories. Iam interested in the whereabouts of maria jones or her crew, or the gypsy palm reader that was leading them.

[iaapac]

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Jacob Waltz told his friend that she should look for a wickedly twisted cactus then look south east and she would be looking at the site on weavers needle that the mine was in.'
The problem is there are millions of odd, mishapen twisted cactus.
So may clues and over the years so many theories. Iam interested in the whereabouts of maria jones or her crew, or the gypsy palm reader that was leading them.

As I recall, a cactus with the rocks driven into was actually found. I may be mistaken but my memory seems to be pretty clear on that. Have you done a people search on Marie? You mentioned her as Maria Jones while I found references to her as Marie Celeste Jones.

[SoLLiZ]

im not really familiar with this legend but have heard that it was a cover story for a cache hidden by the knights of the golden circle.

[hamellr]

To make things even more complicated, there is a Lost Dutchman's mine in South Eastern Oregon. It's description is that a potato field was planted by the entrance.

[Ancestralbone]

I live in the state of Arizona and have heard all kinds of stories about the mine some say it never exsisted some say he spread the rumor it was hidden there when in truth not. Take your pick of which story to believe and there is a site I found saying they found the mine already. Check it: http://www.desertusa...ries/lost1.html and judge for yourself. But I hear the place is cursed either way make sure you have plenty water and food if you go there.

[Solofront]

Hey, Ancestralbone another arizonan Anyways, , I hike the superstition springs mountains about once a week to once every two weeks and have been doing so ever since we moved here eight years ago, and have never found the L.D.M.
I believe the story is told to bring tourists here

[Ancestralbone]

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Hey, Ancestralbone another arizonan Anyways, , I hike the superstition springs mountains about once a week to once every two weeks and have been doing so ever since we moved here eight years ago, and have never found the L.D.M.
I believe the story is told to bring tourists here

You are probably right and my area where I live has a lot of places for tourist to spend, spend until that are broke. I live near the Cochsie stronghold and the Chiricahua mountains. We have people hiking the stronghold to see if they can find Cochise's remains and whatever may be with him. I hope that is one thing they never find but it would be nice to know for sure if there really is a lost Dutchman mine.