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Poll: Do(does) God(s) exist (20 member(s) have cast votes)

Chose an answer(expect critisism)

  1. one almighty god (jews) (7 votes [35.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 35.00%

  2. more then one semi almighty gods (Hindus) (1 votes [5.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.00%

  3. more then one with a king god (Greek) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. one god with a demi god (cristians) (3 votes [15.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.00%

  5. "one supreme being" (not god but creator) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. no god what so ever (athiest) (4 votes [20.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

  7. don't know (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  8. don't care (some cults) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  9. other (5 votes [25.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

  10. thir aliens (most cults) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

if you choose there is a god or supreme being (any) chose one

  1. bunch of good gods (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. bunch of evil gods (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. one good god (8 votes [40.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 40.00%

  4. one evil god (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. other (8 votes [40.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 40.00%

  6. bored god or gods (1 votes [5.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.00%

  7. evil and good god (2 votes [10.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  8. evil Surprem being(SB) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  9. good SB (1 votes [5.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.00%

  10. Mixed SB (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

if you chose a good or evil, why

  1. The worlds to cruel to have a good god (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. we would all be dead by now with and evil god (1 votes [5.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.00%

  3. the evil gods are fighting and leave us alone (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. the good gods are arguring about who will fix the world (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. he/they think the world has destoyed its-self (2 votes [10.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  6. he/they think it's beyond saveing (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. they place bets on wars (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  8. they don't care at all about us (1 votes [5.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.00%

  9. think i'm going to far with this (3 votes [15.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.00%

  10. other (13 votes [65.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 65.00%

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#1    Quantem Singularity

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Posted 11 November 2005 - 04:56 AM

pick one, if other, state what it was down here

pick other at bottem if you do not agree with the nine in third poll

the demi god under cristians counts as jesus,

god can be either "luthor" or "god" just whuich one you think is right, or they could be counted as two gods

Edited by Quantem Singularity, 11 November 2005 - 05:38 AM.


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Posted 11 November 2005 - 05:09 AM

I think you have to realize the Christians do not believe Christ is a demi-God.  They believe in a trinity (no arguments on that here, please).  God is Jesus.  Jesus is God.  Separate entities, but the same.  Thus I vote for the Jewish God, because He is the same as the Christian God, just not completely revealed to us.

I also voted that He is a good God.

And 'other' for the third vote option.

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Posted 11 November 2005 - 05:13 AM

Seems like there are Higher Powers in the Universe, but we don't necessarily have to worship them. They are neither good or evil in my opinion. Just forces, like karma, that try to balance each other out. We are all a part of this Universe, so essentially, we are "God".

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Posted 11 November 2005 - 05:28 AM

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Seems like there are Higher Powers in the Universe, but we don't necessarily have to worship them. They are neither good or evil in my opinion. Just forces, like karma, that try to balance each other out. We are all a part of this Universe, so essentially, we are "God".


I believe the same thing more or less. Too bad none of that is really on the poll.
I believe that there are many aspects of spirit, but only one deity. Nothing is really good or bad, just constructive or destructive.

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I think you have to realize the Christians do not believe Christ is a demi-God. They believe in a trinity (no arguments on that here, please). God is Jesus. Jesus is God. Separate entities, but the same. Thus I vote for the Jewish God, because He is the same as the Christian God, just not completely revealed to us.


He may have been refering to Satan as a demi-God.



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Posted 11 November 2005 - 05:32 AM

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Nothing is really good or bad, just constructive or destructive.

Right, I picked "other" a lot.

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Posted 11 November 2005 - 05:36 AM

a trinity is a demi god...


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Posted 11 November 2005 - 05:43 AM

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He may have been refering to Satan as a demi-God.


True, I didn't think of that, but I doubt it.  

Besides, according to Christian belief, Satan is not a god either (well, he is in the sense that he is the God of this world, but Satan was/is a fallen angel, not a God or a demi-God).

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a trinity is a demi god...


Not according to the Christian faith it isn't.  Christians worship 1 God, not 3 demi-gods.  But that's just my opinion.

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Posted 11 November 2005 - 05:50 AM

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Satan is not a god either

Right, he was a servant to God. Or at least "Lucifer" is an angel. And angels are not demi-gods.

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Posted 11 November 2005 - 12:49 PM

hahahah ...thanks for clearing that up PA. I was just about to pick One Almighty God as my choice when i realised that i wasnt a Jew so i scrolled down to see what the Christain response was and was like " what the hang!". hahaha, no we believe in the Trinity yes but still only one God, Christ is no "half"-god but God in human form.

Edited by Casper, 11 November 2005 - 12:55 PM.


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Posted 11 November 2005 - 01:20 PM

I have read that enoch was turned into a Metatron.

"Metatron is an Archangel and a Seraphim who sits beside God".

Link:
http://www.crystalinks.com/metatron.html

Merraton, Metatetron, and Metaraon is spelled in many different variations.



"A mysterious figure, Metatron is identified with the term, "lesser YHVH" in a Talmudic version read by the Karaite scholar Kirkisani."
"Elisha ben Abuya therefore looked to Metatron as a Deity, and is reported to have said, "There are indeed two powers in heaven!""

Link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metatron

So how many creators, or lesser creators are there:
We have God, Jesus, Enoch(metatron)?
Are there even more that we haven't been told about?

Edited by Solofront, 11 November 2005 - 01:21 PM.

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Posted 11 November 2005 - 01:34 PM

Solofront - Concerning Enoch, all the Bible states is:

"Altogether, Enoch lived 365 years.  Enoch walked with God; then he was no more, because God took him away." (Genesis 5:23-24)

Anything more is conjecture.

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Posted 11 November 2005 - 01:40 PM

But what if...
The story is true,
Isn't that worth fighting for?
Isn't that worth dieing for?
...hahahahahaha            ok enough with the morpheous crap...lol tongue.gif

So god did take him away,...
Is enoch just hangin tight, till armagedon begins or what?
He is after all one of the silent witnesses.

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Posted 12 November 2005 - 01:46 PM

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He is after all one of the silent witnesses.


Conjecture my friend, pure and simple.  The Bible speaks of two witnesses during the end times.  Conjecture has led people to think that the two witnesses will be Enoch and Elijah.  Both are supposed to have never died and simply "gone up to be with the Lord".

Personally, I don't know, I'm just trying to give what little information I have.

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Posted 12 November 2005 - 03:08 PM

Yeah, I knew there was another dude, that started with E, I was about to just call him enoch #2... yes.gif

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Posted 12 November 2005 - 04:27 PM

Hmmm.....How do you put 3 "others" together, and get away with saying that existence instigates controversy? Does god exist before god? Or does existence exist before god?

In other words, did God( what/whoever that means) create existence itself? Or did existence always bear it's physical might upon the earthly plane so much that we cannot place God before existence?

Other 1)Existence, before God.
Other 2)God, before Existence.
Other 3)God created existence, but God existed already to create existence. So existence existed already.


Other 4)God the creater of the God that creates existence, ( which is God creating God ) within the simple & complex boundaries of the physical world with no evidence of existence.

Other 5)Merged with 4), God the ever-creating of God, to the point God can't create 'God' anymore and will one day decide to create in the physical world so that there is evidence finally of existence.

I can't say I don't know....and I can't say I do....

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