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Chinese are raising St. Bernard dogs for food


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#1    BigDaddy_GFS

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Posted 01 December 2005 - 07:15 PM

I don't know if this true or not.
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reports from and about China are notoriously difficult to verify, and given the size and diversity of China's population, any statement about what "Chinese people do" has to be taken with a grain of salt. Several European newspapers and news agencies have run items in recent weeks about the raising of St. Bernard dogs for food in China, although newspapers often pick up stories from each other without verifying the information (and thus all report the same apocryphal story as true, as recently happened with the Working Stiff legend). Some of these papers carried stories filed by reporters in Beijing itself, which gives them a bit more credibility, but even these reporters seem to have been relaying information they were told rather than scenes they personally witnessed. Nonetheless, we're cautiously assuming the basic facts found in the reports are true, based on the sheer persistence of the reports.

The main thrust of the articles is that some 11,000 signatures have been collected by a group in Switzerland known as the SOS St Bernard Dogs in order to prod the Swiss government into lodging a formal protest with China, and the validity of the protest is supported with various quotes and scenes gathered from around China:


In Datong, where coal was once the biggest business, sacked miners now make money cross-breeding pure St Bernards with local mutts that are reared solely for the stovetop. "The meat is so tender and has a unique aroma," said Meng Li, a local breeder.


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Posted 01 December 2005 - 07:17 PM

It better be an urban legend.....that's just wrong.... disgust.gif


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Posted 01 December 2005 - 07:21 PM

I see no reason why it wouldn't be true... the chinese have an infamous lack of respect when it comes to animals, so I don't see why some wouldn't breed large dogs for food.  After all we breed pigs to eat, and they're more intelligent...

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Posted 01 December 2005 - 07:24 PM

There are loads of possible jokes to be had here. But I wont. grin2.gif

The act of eating dogs, to me is cruel. But as we know different cultures and the need to survive, it happens. hmm.gif

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Posted 01 December 2005 - 07:29 PM

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I see no reason why it wouldn't be true... the chinese have an infamous lack of respect when it comes to animals, so I don't see why some wouldn't breed large dogs for food.  After all we breed pigs to eat, and they're more intelligent...


so are you saying that we also have a lack of respect for animals?

but why not, they're animals, and as we are also animals and being omnivores (eat both meat and vegetables + fruits) why not eat them as well. you eat lambs and pigs and chickens ect (by you I mean everyone apart from vegetarians)

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Posted 01 December 2005 - 07:51 PM

It makes me laugh when people who eat chicken, beef, lamb and fish get all upset about people eating dogs. Really, what is the difference???? You are just as bad in my eyes.


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Posted 01 December 2005 - 08:26 PM

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so are you saying that we also have a lack of respect for animals?


No, but if you could tell me where I wrote that i'd appreciate it.

My point was that the chinese have a lack of regard for animals when it comes to eating, they don't always discriminate between pets/endangered etc as we well know.  Often, food to them is food no matter w3hat the source, and in many parts they have less choice of food variety as we take for granted.

We on the other hand, eat cattle and do not touch animals we consider as pets or intelligent.  Which is hypocritical seeing as pigs are in fact more intelligent than dogs.

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Posted 01 December 2005 - 10:12 PM

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No, but if you could tell me where I wrote that i'd appreciate it.

My point was that the chinese have a lack of regard for animals when it comes to eating, they don't always discriminate between pets/endangered etc as we well know.  Often, food to them is food no matter w3hat the source, and in many parts they have less choice of food variety as we take for granted.

We on the other hand, eat cattle and do not touch animals we consider as pets or intelligent.  Which is hypocritical seeing as pigs are in fact more intelligent than dogs.

l agree with what you are saying richdog , it is well known that Chinese eat dog and cat , here is a link but BEWARE , on the website there are picture that may be DISTURBING to some people , if you love dogs you will probably find the pictures OFFENSIVE. (l know l did)
but not all Chinese eat dog some are against eating dog, in the article it states that

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many Chinese people are passionately against the idea of eating our “best friends”.


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Posted 01 December 2005 - 10:29 PM

when it comes to food there is no right or wrong. an example is india. they respect the cows and worship the cows (correct me if iam wrong b/c iam not sure). so its obviously that we are wrong in their eyes. who are we to say what is wrong and what is right? we just have to respect the other cultures, because its obviously that every culture is very different. muslims dont eat pork b/c of their religion. so should i make fun and say that bacon is tasty come and eat it, or respect them? ofcourse eating dogs is really strange but not wrong.

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Posted 01 December 2005 - 10:32 PM

Its the point of view...

To the people who eat dogs, thy are just like pigs....we keep dogs as pets, so we are offended....how do you think people who keep Pot-Bellied Pigs as pets feel about pork?

The Natives in New Guinea eat Snakes and lizards...the Zoe People of Brazil eat andacondas and jaguars....Many people around South-east Asia eat monkeys....we eat beef, pork, and lamb...

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Posted 01 December 2005 - 10:35 PM

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they respect the cows and worship the cows (correct me if iam wrong b/c iam not sure).

Only Hindus...thats why they are mostly Vegetarians or just don't eat beef (chicken and others is fine...). A surprising amount eat beef...Not all of India dpon't eat cows...I;m from India, but I'm Catholic...I eat beef.

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ofcourse eating dogs is really strange but not wrong.

and in their eyes, what we eat is strange...

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Posted 01 December 2005 - 10:40 PM

i totally agree with you frogfish. ofcourse we are offended. as the indians are offended when we eat cows which is their god (i think so ). every culture is offended by another culture thats life i guess.

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Posted 01 December 2005 - 11:12 PM

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No, but if you could tell me where I wrote that i'd appreciate it.

My point was that the chinese have a lack of regard for animals when it comes to eating, they don't always discriminate between pets/endangered etc as we well know.  Often, food to them is food no matter w3hat the source, and in many parts they have less choice of food variety as we take for granted.

We on the other hand, eat cattle and do not touch animals we consider as pets or intelligent.  Which is hypocritical seeing as pigs are in fact more intelligent than dogs.


sorry richdog, I read your post wrong >_< I mis-read it, but i just re-read your post and it makes more sense than it did earlier to me  wacko.gif

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Posted 02 December 2005 - 12:08 AM

Hey, food is food. I guess you just have to acquire a taste for certain things.

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Posted 02 December 2005 - 01:04 AM

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i totally agree with you frogfish. ofcourse we are offended. as the indians are offended when we eat cows which is their god (i think so ). every culture is offended by another culture thats life i guess.

have a nice day


yeah l agree  thumbsup.gif

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