[amybutts]

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You can find the same messages as in the bible code in any book, this has been tested and proven more than once, the so-called bible code does not mean anything.

Exactly, they took Moby Dick and did the same thing.....

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Man. John Titor has been debunked many times. I cant believe people still believe he's a time traveler from 2036!

Ummm... never heard of John Titor, guess I will have to google him.

As for bad things happening weather wise, I believe we are supposed to be in a ten year cycle with the weather patterns.....

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Well, if we wake up in 2012, and the world has been turned on its ass, I want you to think about something.
If the post-Apocalyptic world becomes something akin to what we saw in the 'The Road Warrior' or 'The Postman'...with scattered tribes of people scratching their existence out of the rubble....Who's gonna be the chief warlord???

ME!!!!

Now, who;s your daddy???
BigDaddy!

Like Santa Claus, I'll remember who's been naughty or nice.

OMG... LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

This post has been edited by amybutts: 03 January 2006 - 12:17 AM

[Vidgange]

Well, I don't believe in prophecies or anything like that - however I just wanna add something I come up with: Jesus wasn't born in year 0, this is acctually a miscalculation by a monk around 300 AD, he was infact born some years before that. And therefore won't we see anything strange happen this year. But if he was born like 4 BC we're ending up in the year 2001 or something... See my point? the apacolyps has already started! ;D

And for the record I just wanna add that the mayan calender probably was more accurate than our own, since we have been forced to change it sometimes so that the seasons don't jump around in the year the next time we have to change the calender is in like the year 3000 something...

Hope all that made sense - I'm tired

[Stellar]

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Ya, forgot about that grin2.gif Mind tellin' me how he was 'debunked' plz? grin2.gif

How would you really claim that he was a hoax, I mean theres no real way

Check out the JT thread for plenty of information.

Basically though, the website author admitted to it being a publicity stunt.

[Triad]

It would have taken three years for the three kings to have gotten to Jesus once they saw the Star of David. So 2012 - 3 years =2009. One would subtract it because Jesus was actually born in 3bc when 0ad should have been started.

Having said that, the date in question coincides with an event in nature. An eclipse of sorts related to the sun and the center of the Galactic plane (or Galactic Equator).

See link


From the point of view of looking just at this issue it’s easy to see why someone could say that what the Mayans did was to accurately (to the day) determine the position of the sun in relation to the Galactic plane, several thousands years prior to it happening. By itself it’s rather an incredible feat, presenting a level of sophistication, in relation to astronomy, well above any other culture in existence at the time.

There are Native American legends in relation to what is supposed to happen beyond the above. One way to understand them is in relation to all the very unique forms of life described in ancient history.....







What is suggested is that these things are actually real and they exist today. What happened was that about 7 thousand years ago something changed. As a result there appearance changed into forms we commonly understand today.

One way to understand this is in relation to the concept of the mulitverse; each universe is separated by "something". In relation to the End of Days that separation fails and the life forms which are individualized by that separation coalesce into a form which is representative of the whole (this meaning us).

Beyond this and by no means is the Mayan conclusion in relation to the End of time, descriptive of the end of the world as depicted in Christendom. Specifically, it is meant to imply the end our understanding of time as we commonly refer to it, in relation to analog time keeping (seconds, hours and so on) ends. With respect to modern day science that has already begun but has not yet been applied to life in relation to the masses.

It would seem feasible to suggest that by the year 2009 or for that matter 2012 changes could start to effect the masses so as to make our conception of time (in relation to how the masses are educated) more in line with reality.

Any thoughts?

[Paranormalcy]

I still say no. The Mayan calendar is simply at its end, and you go back to the beginning and start over again, as it was designed to track a certain cycle that is fully known only to them, though enough research has been able to deduct most of their reasoning and calculations.

[SkepticDood]

LOL as I read this I’m watching "The day after tomorrow" LOL, what a coincidence lol

[syos]

sorry but i still dont understand what bible codes are?
plz help.

[SkepticDood]

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sorry but i still dont understand what bible codes are?
plz help.

Basically its playing crossword puzzle with text in the bible in its original format and language.

[broken_inside]

*is scared*

[Welsh Shaun]

The beginning of the end of time started, when time started.

When will it end? How long is a piece of string?

No time limit can be placed on it, time is limitless?

Or when the big yellow thing in the sky decides to pack up.

[GreyWeather]

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It would have taken three years for the three kings to have gotten to Jesus once they saw the Star of David. So 2012 - 3 years =2009. One would subtract it because Jesus was actually born in 3bc when 0ad should have been started.

yeah, uhm, the mayan calender has absolutely nothing to do with the christian jesus, what-so-ever. so the mayan calender still stands as 2012, mayan's didn't even know or care if there were a jesus, because they were so far away from it all anyway.
mayan's were excellent astronomers, and with that they calculated that the world was round (way before bruno came up with that, but was then burnt at the stake...), how long it took to go around the sun, how long to go through the galaxy, how long a day - month - year was. yeah they may have been slightly off, but not by much at all. because of all this, they made the most accurate calender that even has our modern calenders beat.

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hm,looked for a thread on John Titor, but came to no avail. though I found a little site about him, sounds kinda dodgy.

This post has been edited by Leliel: 03 January 2006 - 03:04 PM

[~TheArtOfContact~]

So we add one second to the clock for this year. When does that happen again? It isn't possible to subtract that one second of course. But, to add more?

What happens if that is really the "sign" were supposed to look for? & Seriously if it was, does it measure out to be two seconds on 2012? I'm just curious. Scared and exited don't mix too well with 'end' times crap.

In the bible, it's about the word 'day' that comes to mind. There is a reason someone says 'day' to define what day and age someone is in. Not a specific day. So when someone says 'end of times', it isn't a specific time. It's the day and age, time ect. I feel that if there is anything an end of times, people have to at least be more aware that taking the clock today so seriously, isn't something to fool around with no different than back then. I don't think anything is going to end.

Everyone can turn around and take every single clock and shut it all down if they wanted. We all will still survive. We would just have to resort to some other method of tracking everything to keep chaos from happening. Anyone back in the ancient biblical days who doesn't appreciate the fact that clocks were made to keep public chaos from happening, do not appreciate what future could be alot more advanced and calmer than thier own reality at that present moment.

If all anyone ever cared about was ending the time of people all over -2000 or so years after thier own time, I would say your NUTS. Like, how effing dare you.

How would you feel if we all turned around and just decided that in the year 3000, were sitting here saying it, writing a bible, going ---- 'well, in the year 3000 -something- the whole entire universe is going to be obliterated in one great cataclysmic implosion, that will surely absolutely eradicate every possible evidence that humanity ever existed in the first place."

Ahhhhhh, yes sir, you must be so happy with yourself saying that. Oh wait I have an idea sir. "What's that?"

Well, sir I think in the year 4000, ( omg no ), yes sir, everything is going to EXPLODE. We will all die. Thats right, no not your theory that in 3000 everything implodes, sorry. Were gonna have to tolerate another 1000 years.

Should I call 911?, it looks like your gonna have a heart attack!!!

That is just my skeptical view of it all. It isn't like we can turn around and say, "HEY BACK THERE" about circa 2000 years ago, and tell all the people who died, your gonna be ressurected, just so we can kill you all over again!!!! ARE you happy???? Good, it's just revenge. Thanks!!!!

[Azalin]

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Exactly, they took Moby Dick and did the same thing.....
Ummm... never heard of John Titor, guess I will have to google him.

As for bad things happening weather wise, I believe we are supposed to be in a ten year cycle with the weather patterns.....
OMG... LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

Amy,

John Titor is a man that said he was from the future. I remember doing a rather large debate about in him in an older thread on this board I believe. He had a lot of claims, and their is a lot of information he gave regarding the future of events. All in all, most people claim, he it was all fake. The great thing being, is that he could always default to the fact that the future could of changed, because of what we know now, so the events he speaks about may never take place.

There is quite a bit about him, and Im not gonna try and sum it all up in this post. I would advise going to the website below for a more indepth re-search on him.

JOHN TITOR

[amybutts]

Thank you, Azalin.




Ummm... okay. I just read the link you supplied and IMO he is no better these fly-by-night psychics who prey on human weaknesses. I am amazed at how little common sense people use when it comes to what they will believe in.

This post has been edited by amybutts: 03 January 2006 - 05:34 PM

[zealot316]

its a lot more than that bible code and the mayan calendar, many pshychics (however u spell dat) and remote viewers n wutnot cant forseee past the year of 2012,,,,,, it is also now interperted as not the end of the world but as the evolving of our planet (if u look at it on a more spiritual level) and as it evloves it switches to a highier frequency or sumtin ,,, which means that we as its inhabitors will evolve with it , and supposably those who cant will just not survive ,,, sumthing among those lines ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, oka anyone dat knows it more detailed plz add to it