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#31    JulesNTX

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Posted 07 September 2006 - 04:26 AM

Here are a couple of links that reveal what investigations in this area resulted in.

http://www.hollowhill.com/tx/patterson2.htm

http://www.hollowhill.com/tx/langham-creek1.htm


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Posted 07 September 2006 - 01:42 PM

I need to try to find my pictures that I took during my investigation. I went by myself to take pictures, but got nothing. I went during the day and at night.


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Posted 07 September 2006 - 03:14 PM

I was born and raised northwest of there and spent alot of time hunting and horseback riding thoughout the area from the late 50's through the learly 80's. Yes, I know, that makes me real, real old. I did want to mention a couple of things regarding the area though.  The interesting thing about this area is that the activity that supposedly takes place out there is relatively new. When I was growing up, the area you folks are discussing was actually a large ranch, the LH7, and the remains of a town called Addicks which suffered major damage in the 1900 Hurricane. Mr. Addicks is actually buried in Blue Light. All of that area is low lying and prone to flooding thus the reason that it eventually flooded and became part of the Addicks reservoir system in the late 40's.

During dry times you could find the ruins of old homesteads and abandoned graveyards thoughout the area. The LH rodeo and barns were also still standing for years although I don't know if they still own any property out there.  Haven't been there in 20 years so I don't know what's left.  I think most of the land is under flood control property now.

I will mention that the most interesting thing in the area are the  two odd ground structures located south of Patterson Rd. between the actual Langham Creek and Eldridge. One structure resembles a cleared mound with one tree at the center and the other structure is a cross in a cleared circle. The cross is made up of trees so it is not likely a natural formation.

You can best see them from the air or do a Google satellite view of the area. To the best of my knowledge the sites have been around since the 70's and have been attributed to hippies and/or religious cults living in the area during the 60's and 70's.

Regarding the paranormal activity, I will honestly say I never experienced anything while roaming those woods in daylight or night. I was always more concerned with the plentiful copperheads, cottonmouths and swarms of wasps.

One last thing, as a former history professor, I can tell you there were no Civil War battles anywhere near the area. Closest one was Galveston. Some skirmishes did occur with Mexican troops but these were mostly west of there around the Brazos River. If there are ghosts out there, they are most likely those of the German ranchers and farmers that settled Addicks in the 1850s.

Keep exploring the area. There is alot of history to be found out there.




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Posted 07 September 2006 - 03:40 PM

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Yes, I know, that makes me real, real old. I did want to mention a couple of things regarding the area though.


Thank you swc64. I'm glad you joined to share your experience and history with the area.

Don't consider yourself "real, real old"....lol. Everyone can learn a great deal from their elders. I'm still learning things from my Grams.......now, she's real, real old.... grin2.gif.


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Posted 07 September 2006 - 04:08 PM

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I will mention that the most interesting thing in the area are the  two odd ground structures located south of Patterson Rd. between the actual Langham Creek and Eldridge. One structure resembles a cleared mound with one tree at the center and the other structure is a cross in a cleared circle. The cross is made up of trees so it is not likely a natural formation.

You can best see them from the air or do a Google satellite view of the area. To the best of my knowledge the sites have been around since the 70's and have been attributed to hippies and/or religious cults living in the area during the 60's and 70's.

The area you refer to, nowadays, we refer to as the cross... and near it is something we call the bowl. Still interesting as to why these formations are out there. I wondor if there was any indians that settled the area?

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Regarding the paranormal activity, I will honestly say I never experienced anything while roaming those woods in daylight or night. I was always more concerned with the plentiful copperheads, cottonmouths and swarms of wasps.

One last thing, as a former history professor, I can tell you there were no Civil War battles anywhere near the area. Closest one was Galveston. Some skirmishes did occur with Mexican troops but these were mostly west of there around the Brazos River. If there are ghosts out there, they are most likely those of the German ranchers and farmers that settled Addicks in the 1850s.

Keep exploring the area. There is alot of history to be found out there.

According to what I have heard, the skirmish that did take place here was between the German settlers and the mexican army, but I can not verify until I find more info.


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Posted 07 September 2006 - 05:06 PM

Come on, it was so damn interesting... Where did LaLo go, think something has happened to her while being on that bridge again?

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Posted 07 September 2006 - 05:17 PM

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Come on, it was so damn interesting... Where did LaLo go, think something has happened to her while being on that bridge again?


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Posted 07 September 2006 - 05:52 PM

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The area you refer to, nowadays, we refer to as the cross... and near it is something we call the bowl. Still interesting as to why these formations are out there. I wondor if there was any indians that settled the area?

According to what I have heard, the skirmish that did take place here was between the German settlers and the mexican army, but I can not verify until I find more info.



NME,

The only explanation of the sites that I've ever heard was from an old rancher in the area who attributed the sites to, and I quote, "a bunch of them hippies and Jesus freaks who used to have camps out here..." According to him, the bowl and the cross were not there prior to the late 60's early 70's. I don't recall hearing about them until the 70's either. Judging from the growth of the trees, I tend to think this is probably true. They don't appear to be Native American in structure and don't fit in with the tribes that were known to inhabit the area, mainly the Karankawa and Atakapan. In fact, both tribes were nearly wiped out by European diseases very early on and were certainly gone from the area by the time the railroad and German settlers arrived. I think that the structures, while fairly new, may have been an attempt to continue some kind of religious tradition by the German settlers. The same thing as Cross Mountain outside of Fredericksburg.

I would be very interested to hear about any info you find on the skirmish. There have always been stories about a skirmish in the area but there is nothing in the historical record to indicate it was anything major. I doubt it would have involved the Germans and the Mexican army as the settlers didn't arrive until long after Mexico was defeated and Texas was a state. My guess is that if there was a skirmish, it would have been an earlier one between a homesteader and the Mexican army or perhaps between two very early settlers to the area. This would account for the lack of historical data as well as the ever changing story.

Didn't mean to hijack your thread with all this boring history. I'll let you guys get back to discussing the interesting stuff.




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Posted 07 September 2006 - 06:32 PM

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Didn't mean to hijack your thread with all this boring history. I'll let you guys get back to discussing the interesting stuff.



Thanks SWC!

Heck no, by all means, that what this thread is for, and to catch any attention from people that know the history of Bear Creek Pioneers Park The whole area is now property of the US Army.... Hoorah!

I also don't think the skirmishes are what made the area haunted, but the fatalities did. For years, nothing was strange about this place, until the body of the car-jack victim was found. Her body was there for over a week and badley decomposed. It was at the lake on the right if you heads towords I-10 by the big hill which acts as a dam. Since then, all these crosses and markers have gone up from fatalities.

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Posted 08 September 2006 - 02:17 AM

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..... who's Lalo?



ilk2singa signed almost all her posts with that, plus she mentioned in a thread that that's how her friends call her  yes.gif

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Posted 08 September 2006 - 02:45 PM

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ilk2singa signed almost all her posts with that, plus she mentioned in a thread that that's how her friends call her  yes.gif


Oh yeah, I know who you are talking about now! I have her on my friend list on my MYSPACE account.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...iendid=69263231

She belongs to Fox & Hound Ghost Hunters which is a pub in Houston which I so happen to go for lunch. She also has other Research groups linked to her. I linked to her after I met her here.

Her last loggin : 17th August 2006 - 05:50 PM

I like how she puts thing, and she thinks the same way I do.

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"FHGH Stands for Fox & Hound Ghost Hunters. Simply put we are a group of kids based out of fox composed of our wait staff, cooks, and hostesses. Driven mad by boredom, and recent ghostly phenomenon at Fox we decided to venture out into our fair and vast state of Texas to debunk the truths of our favorite "haunted places" and "urban legends".

Does not means she's a skeptic at all, simply means she will let you know which are real and worth going to. She validates.

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Posted 08 September 2006 - 11:09 PM

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Oh yeah, I know who you are talking about now! I have her on my friend list on my MYSPACE account.
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She belongs to Fox & Hound Ghost Hunters which is a pub in Houston which I so happen to go for lunch. She also has other Research groups linked to her. I linked to her after I met her here.



That's really weird, nearly had a 'moment' there... I know of a pub called the Fox and Hounds in Houston but it's in Scotland grin2.gif

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Posted 09 December 2006 - 04:36 AM

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Sounds like an awesome area...would love to check it out sometime  grin2.gif


<< If you live in the area, there is also the Beeler Cemetery on Enclave Parkway off Eldridge just south of I-10 (and Bear Creek Park). It's a small cemetery with about 7 or 8 plots, all from the 1880's to as late as the 1914. The area is developing rapidly and the cemetery is at risk of being wiped away by progress. There used to be a historical marker but that is now gone. Also, you may get a visit from a private security guard if you hang out long enough - it is still a public park, so don't let them harrass you! Not sure why private security is concerned about a public park... but it leads me to believe the land has been bought and the cemetery will be moved soon. >>

I remember this place, or someplace very close to it.  We lived near Dairy Ashford and Westheimer and used to ride our bikes up there.  There was a little pond and park on the East side of Eldridge.  There was a parking lot on the left side of Eldridge and a little cemetary.    About 16 yrs ago two college age kids were murdered near there.    It was mostly open fields and I believe the roads were already there.   There was a business on or near the corner of Westpark and Eldridge.  The kids were parked on one of the empty roads and ended up with their throats cut.  Their bodies were discovered in the field.  I remember feeling very scared by this.  Thinking that the murderer could be the guy next to me in the grocery store line.   Too creepy.



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Posted 09 December 2006 - 05:06 AM

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<< If you live in the area, there is also the Beeler Cemetery on Enclave Parkway off Eldridge just south of I-10 (and Bear Creek Park). >>

Yes, this is it. I just read this:  http://www.hollowhill.com/tx/houston/beeler-may06.htm

If there are entities outside the cemetary, it may be the murdered kids.  Do spirits stay in the exact vicinity of the place they were murdered or can they wander a block or two?  Would they be attracted to other spirits who died much earlier than they did under completely different circumstances?


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Posted 12 May 2007 - 04:33 AM

I live in that area as well.  I'd like to meet a group of ppl out there on a Saturday night.  I did community svcs at that park and heard of the blue light cementary and know where it is as well.  Plus there has been a many of suicides inside the park as well.  If anyone would like to a group get together out there.  Let me know by calling my cell @ *snip*.  I live off *snip*.


Mike, It's really not a good idea to post personal info such as a cell # and address on any message board

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