I see that the discussion has died down, I also see that no specific point has been argued. I will assume that people have taken what information they agree with from my post, disagree with what I have said but cannot argue against it or have decided to sit back and see what else comes out of this.
So whatever the case may be I will move on and explain a little further who this Lucifer is.
I have shown that the connection between Satan and Lucifer was caused by a mistranslation, whether it was intentional or accidental is for you to decide, there isn't enough evidence to prove either way.
The mistranslation being lucifer to Lucifer instead of lucifer to morning star(Venus). So if this mistranslation was what created this "being" Lucifer instead of referring to the planet Venus, Lucifer is more of an empty shell than a "god". But what of the fallen angel story?
Well not to sound offensive but I don't believe that the Church was creative enough to come up with the fallen/rebel angel Lucifer story on their own. Not to mention most religions have a history of taking, borrowing or a better term adopting mythological concepts from other religions/mythologies to their own.
So where did this concept come from?
First it is important to know that the concept of an enlightening "being" is an old one that probably was the product of the major change in consciousness brought about by humans mastery of fire. Please take a moment and try and visualize how fire would have changed early humans lives. It brought warmth, security, light and I assume made them feel like they have finally gotten the upper hand on the animal kingdom. With the warmth, security and light that fire brought it would have resulted in human's days becoming longer. They could stay warm at night, feel safe at night and see at night(near the fire of course). So what did they do with this extra time?
Early humans would have spent more time socializing by the fire, telling stories and relaying concepts to each other which would become their mythology. I would also have to assume that fire or a fire(light) god would play an important role in their mythology, probably close to the importance of the sun, or a sun god.
People with an interest in mythology might have already thought of one legend in particular which I believe was the "template" for Lucifer.
PrometheusThe Crimes of Prometheus - The Rebel Titan
Zeus had many plans for the reshaping of creation. After the fall of Kronos and his confinement in Tartaros, Zeus took no interest in the mortal race of men on the bountiful earth, he intended for them to live as primitives until they died off. Zeus said that knowledge and divine gifts would only bring misery to the mortals and he insisted that Prometheus not interfere with his plans.
Dispite Zeus’ warning, Prometheus took pity on the primitive mortals and again, he deceived Zeus. Prometheus gave the mortals all sorts of gifts: brickwork, woodworking, telling the seasons by the stars, numbers, the alphabet (for remembering things), yoked oxen, carriages, saddles, ships and sails. He also gave other gifts: healing drugs, seercraft, signs in the sky, the mining of precious metals, animal sacrifice and all art.
To compound his crime, Prometheus had stolen fire from Zeus and given it to the mortals in their dark caves. The gift of
divine fire unleashed a flood of inventiveness, productivity and, most of all, respect for the immortal gods in the rapidly developing mortals. Within no time (by Immortal standards), culture, art, and literacy permeated the land around Mount Olympos (Olympus). When Zeus realized the deception that Prometheus had fostered, he was furious. He had Hephaistos (Hephaestus) shackle Prometheus to the side of a crag, high in the Caucasus mountains. There Prometheus would hang until the fury of Zeus subsided.
Each day, Prometheus would be tormented by Zeus’ eagle as it tore at his immortal flesh and tried to devour his liver. Each night, as the frost bit it’s way into his sleep, the torn flesh would mend so the eagle could begin anew at the first touch of Eos (the Dawn).
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Prometheus went against Zeus' wishes and brought fire, "divine fire", to us "primitive mortals" which resulted in "a flood of inventiveness, productivity and, most of all, respect for the immortal gods" but also in a sacrifice, that of Prometheus.
Prometheus was willing to sacrifice himself for our benefit, the benefit of enlightenment. He was a rebel like we are, not quite divine but not an animal. One foot in Heaven and one foot in Hell(Earth, the material world where matter rules and everyone battles urges daily).
There are also similarities in the story of Prometheus and the story of Jesus. Jesus enlightening us also resulted in a sacrifice, his own on the cross, for us.
Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star(Lucifer).
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So Lucifer(a Christian creation), this empty shell of a "being", starts to absorb concepts, older concepts than Christianity. Lucifer is Prometheus, Jesus, Venus(the planet) and the Pentagram.
So what motivation was their to intentionally, or if the Lucifer-Satan connection was accidental what motivated the Church to, propagate this erroneous connection? What were they hiding behind this false veil of evil.
My belief is that they fear our enlightenment. Everyone with some knowledge of control systems, whether it be the Church or the government, knows that fear helps control people and those people's intelligence hurts that control. It is up to us to free ourselves from these control systems.
"It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell."
This post has been edited by Hermetic Hermit: 10 March 2006 - 06:52 PM
"The ancient Mysteries did not cease to exist when Christianity became the world's most powerful religion. Great Pan did not die! Freemasonry is the proof of his survival. The pre-Christian Mysteries simply assumed the symbolism of the new faith, perpetuating through its emblems and allegories the same truths which had been the property of the wise since the beginning of the world." - Manly P. Hall
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