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#1    et's daddy

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Posted 12 March 2006 - 12:25 AM

personally i couldnt live without steak

but is there any info to suggest vegaterians are more healthy or live longer ?

seems if they lived longer the news would be all over it

does anyone here stick to that diet ?



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Posted 12 March 2006 - 10:49 AM

I don't eat fish or meat, I just don't like it, I never have done.  (My baby book states "likes baked beans, dislikes chicken")  I'd say being vegetarian is only healthier if you know what substitute foods you need to get all your vitamins etc.  

Recently I've found out I may be lactose intolerant, which means I'll need to first cut out dairy totally to find out if it makes a difference and then make sure I counteract the lack of dairy with other foods.  I don't really want to become Vegan but if it's necessary I'll be consulting a dietician to make sure I'm eating the right things.

Personally I'd recommend a healthy diet includes fish and lean white meat.

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Posted 12 March 2006 - 11:31 AM

I am not a vegetarians but do calorie restriction... which does extend life span.

I don't think that vegetarians live that much longer and some may have long term vitamin/mineral deficiencies if they don't supplement.

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Posted 12 March 2006 - 11:36 AM

There is no evidence to support the idea that us Vegeterians are more healthy. Quite to the contrary, in fact. thumbsup.gif

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Posted 12 March 2006 - 12:59 PM

I'm into bodybuilding so i can't go without chicken and fish.I don't eat red meat ever though.

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Posted 12 March 2006 - 01:48 PM

I'm vegetarian, but I'm quite unhealthy because I don't take vitamins and I only eat one meal a day. I suppose if you got the right information, it would be good for you.

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Posted 12 March 2006 - 02:14 PM

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I'm vegetarian, but I'm quite unhealthy because I don't take vitamins and I only eat one meal a day. I suppose if you got the right information, it would be good for you.


same as me, though it depends how bothered I am to make something, I either have 2 or 3 meals a day, or 1 a day.

but I guess if you did the meals right I guess it still gives you the recommended nutrition values

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Posted 12 March 2006 - 03:49 PM

Walken is right. Vegetarians normally don't get enough amino acids in them. Also, eating too much red meat is bad. Eating right amounts of everything is the best.

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Posted 12 March 2006 - 11:37 PM

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I am not a vegetarians but do calorie restriction... which does extend life span.




you have a source for this ?

my grandfather was over-weight and he lived to be 96

exceptions to every rule i know but gees



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Posted 12 March 2006 - 11:53 PM

It can go either way. Vegetarians could be if they consume all the nessacary vitamins etc, although its easier for us meat eaters since a lot of meat already contains most of the vitamins and minerals, such as fish, which is really good for you grin2.gif

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 12:25 AM

I'm a vegan and very versed in nutrition I have taken alot of classes and still do, wth do you want to know in particular??Yes they are healthier, food builds a strong body and strong systems, fresh foods such as vegtables, fruit legumes rice (brown raw nuts etc... little to no animal foods most definitley builds a immune sytem that can fend off just about anything, I must tell you I take veganism seriously and put the time in to learn about it and I have reaped many health benefits, I was asthmatic very seriously all my life , It is completely gone, I had all kinds of sinus issues gone, skin disorders gone, My son who is 8 has never been on an antibiotic, and has never had anything more than a common cold... oh i do not take suppliments, that is personal preference , and a myth in my world, I'd say learn about nutrition so few even understand it, there are free classes available often through your medical...Most gyms have a nutrtionist you can meet with or your doctor cabn point you in the nutriton direction. , if not buy a book on nutrition go online...the majority of health issues are due to the consumption of animal products........It also makes kids smarter and devoid of behavioral issues brought on by sugar in the diet... grin2.gif

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 12:38 AM

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There is no evidence to support the idea that us Vegeterians are more healthy. Quite to the contrary, in fact. thumbsup.gif

I'm evidence and so are the vegans i know, you are talking on no authority at all....

It is a myth the human body needs meat to sustain it.....


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Posted 13 March 2006 - 12:48 AM

Are Vegetarian Diets Unhealthy?

"Significant athersclerosis is rare in peoples whose
diet over the life span is predominantly vegetarian
and low in calories, total lipids, saturated lipids and
cholesterol."

Nutrition and Athersclerosis by Louis Katz. 1958
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"The study measured testosterone levels in 696
Oxford University men. Of the study participants,
233 were vegan (ate no animal products) and
237 were vegetarian (ate milk and dairy products).
The remaining 237 subjects were men who ate
meat on most days of the week...vegans had
higher testosterone levels than vegetarians and
meat-eaters."

British Journal of Cancer, 83(1), July 2000
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"Scientific data suggest positive relationships
between a vegetarian diet and reduced risk
for several chronic degenerative diseases and
conditions, including obesity, coronary artery
disease, hypertension, diabetes mellitus, and
some types of cancer."

Journal of the American Dietetic Association,
November 1997, 97(1)
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"Vegetarians often have lower mortality rates
from several chronic degenerative diseases
than do nonvegetarians."

British Medical Journal, 1996; 313
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"Vegan diets are appropriate for all stages of the life
cycle, including during pregnancy and lactation."

Am J Clin Nutr. 1994;59(suppl):1176S-1181S.
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"Vegan diets can meet the nutrient and energy needs
of pregnant women. Birth weights of infants born to
well nourished vegetarian women have been shown
to be similar to birth-weight norms and to birth weights
of infants of nonvegetarians."

Pediatrics. 1989;84
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"Vegetarian diets low in fat or saturated fat
have been used successfully as part of
comprehensive health programs to reverse
severe coronary artery disease."

Journal of the American Medical Association
1995; 274
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"Vegetarian diets offer disease protection
benefits because higher concentration of
antioxidants such as vitamins C and E,
carotenoids, and phytochemicals."

Am J Clin Nutr. 1996;63(suppl)
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"Vegetarian diets offer disease protection
benefits because of their lower saturated fat,
cholesterol, and animal protein content and
often higher concentration of folate
which reduces serum homocysteine levels."

J Am Diet Assoc. 1995;95
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"Mortality from coronary artery disease is
lower in vegetarians than in nonvegetarians."

British Medical Journal, 1994; 308
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"Vegetarian diets have been successful in
arresting coronary artery disease."

Am J Epidemiol. 1995;142
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"Serum cholesterol and low-density lipoprotein
cholesterol levels are usually lower in vegetarians."

Am J Clin Nutr. 1994;59
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"Vegetarians have a lower incidence of hypertension
than nonvegetarians."

Am J Clin Nutr. 1994; 59(suppl)
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"Type 2 diabetes mellitus is less likely to be a
cause of death in vegetarians than nonvegetarians."

Am J Clin Nutr. 1988;48(suppl)
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"Incidence of lung and colorectal cancer is lower
in vegetarians than in nonvegetarians."

Am J Clin Nutr. 1994;59(suppl)
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"Reduced colorectal cancer risk is associated with
increased consumption of fiber, vegetables, and fruit."

Cancer Causes Control. 1991;1:427-442.
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"Breast cancer rates are lower in populations that
consume plant-based diets."

American Cancer Society
Cancer Facts and Figures, 1994
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"Some plant proteins may increase survival rates and
decrease proteinuria, glomerular filtration rate, renal
blood flow, and histologic renal damage compared
with a nonvegetarian diet."

Clinical Nutrition, 1995;10

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 12:54 AM

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 01:30 AM

A well balanced diet is still better than all-meat or vegetarian diets.

Many amino acids cannot be found in one, but the other.

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