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#16    Sherapy

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 02:47 AM

Of course, one of the lives you could save or at least prolong is your own. For vegetarianism should be about more than not eating; it's also about smart eating. You needn't be a born-again foodist to think this. The American Dietetic Association, a pretty centrist group, has proclaimed that "appropriately planned vegetarian diets are healthful, are nutritionally adequate and provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases."

One of the biggest fears meat-eaters have is that vegetarian food does not contain all the necessary nutrients for healthy living. The meat industry is big and powerful -- The fact is, vegetarians on average eat better than nonvegetarians. They consume more vitamin A, C, E, thiamine and riboflavin, magnesium, folate, and carotenoids such as beta-carotene. The typical vegetarian eats about 2 to 3 times as much fiber as the nonvegetarian. The health dividends paid by these nutrients have been thoroughly studied. Most research suggests that dietary antioxidants found in foods, such as carotenoids and vitamins C and E, are associated with a reduced risk of cancer and heart disease. Folate consumption may reduce blood levels of homocysteine, which some important studies have linked to heart disease risk. And while a key study showed earlier this year that fiber does not protect against colon cancer, researchers still believe it works to lower "bad," low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol. Just as important is what is missing from the vegetarian's plate: the meatless diet has less saturated fat, less cholesterol, and fewer calories. Vegetarians have largely escaped the American epidemic of obesity, and they have much lower rates of Type 2 diabetes.


The central idea of vegetarianism -- that there is a kinship of all nature -- stretches back 2,500 years to the Greek philosopher Pythagoras. But Cowherd was in the right place at the right time to make it into a popular movement.

Salford's links with vegetarianism go back to 1809 when the Reverend William Cowherd established the Bible Christian Church as a breakaway from the Swedenborgian New Church in King Street, his congregation had to take a vow not to eat meat. Chapels were also established in Manchester at Ancoats and Hulme.

After all in the optimum organic living conditons it is the vegitation that grows the animals most animals are vegetarian...




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Posted 13 March 2006 - 02:53 AM

Again, a mixed diet is the best. Sadly, not many eat a mixed diet...its all extreme.

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 02:56 AM

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Again, a mixed diet is the best. Sadly, not many eat a mixed diet...its all extreme.

i admit i'm all about the extremes there, can you say the wendys grand slam combo? that's one pound of beef per burger! two of those, and youre ready to face the day! though as frogfish stated, a mixed proper diet would be the best for everyone...still, i do love me a grand slam... hmm.gif

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 02:58 AM

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personally i couldnt live without steak

but is there any info to suggest vegaterians are more healthy or live longer ?

seems if they lived longer the news would be all over it

does anyone here stick to that diet ?


I have been a steak lover all my life. Just recently I have changed my diet and I have to admit I feel more energetic already. I suppose we'll see over time but thus its been great actually. I still eat fish though.  Actually believe it or not my kids love sushi and I think I would have to pry them away from it....strange.

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 03:05 AM

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I have been a steak lover all my life. Just recently I have changed my diet and I have to admit I feel more energetic already. I suppose we'll see over time but thus its been great actually. I still eat fish though.  Actually believe it or not my kids love sushi and I think I would have to pry them away from it....strange.

Star this is the first time in human history tha tchildren will be alive in a time where veganism is excepted, many children are choosing naturally to go vegan, my son inspired us, and I was a vegan as a child I was forced to eat meat by ignorant parents.....




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Posted 13 March 2006 - 03:27 AM

"For vegetarianism should be about more than not eating; it's also about smart eating"

thumbsup.gif it has to be about what you do eat.

a balanced vegan diet of fruits, nuts, plants, grains contains everything the human body requires.


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Posted 13 March 2006 - 03:29 AM

Why do we eat meat then?


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Posted 13 March 2006 - 03:45 AM

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Star this is the first time in human history tha tchildren will be alive in a time where veganism is excepted, many children are choosing naturally to go vegan, my son inspired us, and I was a vegan as a child I was forced to eat meat by ignorant parents.....


You know to be quite honest my children don't particulary like meat. I always noticed that at dinner time they go right for the mashed potatoes and corn or broccoli. I never make them get meat, I just figure if they want the potatoes and broccoli than go for it. Its always mostly been my fiancee and I eating the meat. except for the fish they love that.

I need to get a book to read about this. I really think my family will fair just fine without the meat. My fiancee's sister is a vegan and owns her own natural herb shop. She hasn't gotten a cold in 6 years.  blink.gif I'm venturing over to the other side slowly but surely. I'm very small and always thought I need to meat to keep weight on but in the meantime I have high colestoral and pulmonary problems. I tend to think a change in diet will make all the difference.  thumbsup.gif



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Posted 13 March 2006 - 04:05 AM

There is nothing better than hunting down prey and ripping its carcass open while roaring your cry of dominance, feasting on its flesh. And no, vegitarians arent more healthy because you need the protine and what not in meat, i dont think there were many vegitarian homosepians.

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 04:11 AM

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There is nothing better than hunting down prey and ripping its carcass open while roaring your cry of dominance, feasting on its flesh. And no, vegitarians arent more healthy because you need the protine and what not in meat, i dont think there were many vegitarian homosepians.

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 04:41 AM

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There is nothing better than hunting down prey and ripping its carcass open while roaring your cry of dominance, feasting on its flesh. And no, vegitarians arent more healthy because you need the protine and what not in meat, i dont think there were many vegitarian homosepians.

Moe, I guess the cave man still lives lol.... Fallacy on the protein thing excessive protien leads to all kinds of health problems kidney damage, hair loss, gout etc etc...

Arty the meat industry decided humans needed meat, it is false......Just like the dairy industry decide we needed tons of milk which will actually lead to the very problem it is said to prevent.. osteoporosus..lol

Also protien is in everything , there is not one reported case anywhere even in third world countrys of a protien deficency, Its darn near impossible to get a protien deficiency, Rice is the perfect food (brown rice) As hyper said you will get just what you need with plants fruits rice, nuts and clean  water.....


Star good for you, many people are inspired by the children i sure was, Get a Diet for a new america by Jim Robbins Excellent read and gives alot of info and clears up all the bullSh*t that circulates on the myths concerning food.....

Edited by Sheri berri, 13 March 2006 - 04:43 AM.




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Posted 13 March 2006 - 04:49 AM

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Arty the meat industry decided humans needed meat, it is false......Just like the dairy industry decide we needed tons of milk which will actually lead to the very problem it is said to prevent.. osteoporosus..lol

No, actually I decided I needed and wanted meat because I like it. Sheri, humans were eating meat long before the meat industry, why do you think there is a meat industry anyway, its because people want meat.


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Posted 13 March 2006 - 05:02 AM

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No, actually I decided I needed and wanted meat because I like it. Sheri, humans were eating meat long before the meat industry, why do you think there is a meat industry anyway, its because people want meat.

Arty why do you think you  need meat???? I bet you answer one of the five reasons if not all that most people say who know nothing on nutrtion...?And tell me what you know about the  about the meat industry Arty....  grin2.gif




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Posted 13 March 2006 - 05:06 AM

being generalists, humans can eat just about anything.  that however does not mean that everything is optima for human nutrition!

humans are optimally "vegans" (i use quotes because there are many things considered vegan that are NOT good at all for you). thumbsup.gif

just remeber the length of time it takes for meat to pass through your system.  Your bowl movements should be fast and clean.  If your sitting on the toilet, needing TP, not going a couple times a day, then your digestive system is failing and it is failing because of what you are (and are not) eating.  Humans have an intestinal length suited to the breakdown of plants, not meats.


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Posted 13 March 2006 - 05:17 AM

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Arty why do you think you  need meat???? I bet you answer one of the five reasons if not all that most people say who know nothing on nutrtion...?And tell me what you know about the  about the meat industry Arty....  grin2.gif

Sheri, our bodies are perfectly capable of handling meat, they can break it down very well. We've been doing it since the first rabbit was spotted millenia ago, guaranteed. Sure some meat is fattier than others so then don't eat that type very often. Moderation is key. Although my great grandfather ate bacon, sausage, and eggs pratically everyday of his life and lived to be 92.
The meat industry wouldn't exist if there wasn't a market for it. They don't have to use clever advertising to get me to eat it or most other people for that matter. Come on, seriously.





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