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[Waspie_Dwarf]

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humans are optimally "vegans"

Yeah right, that's why we have canine teeth is it?

We and the apes have a common ancestry. As the apes are omnivores not herivores it is reasonable to assume that we too are omnivores.

[Sherapy]

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being generalists, humans can eat just about anything.  that however does not mean that everything is optima for human nutrition!

humans are optimally "vegans" (i use quotes because there are many things considered vegan that are NOT good at all for you).

just remeber the length of time it takes for meat to pass through your system.  Your bowl movements should be fast and clean.  If your sitting on the toilet, needing TP, not going a couple times a day, then your digestive system is failing and it is failing because of what you are (and are not) eating.  Humans have an intestinal length suited to the breakdown of plants, not meats.

Not to mention the fact tht plants are naturally compatable with us and we assimulate more vitamins and nutrients from plants then meat, The digesting of meat is so hard on the body it wears it down alot sooner.....And the longer something sits in your bowels the more toxins you reabsorb and many cancers are a a result of a tapped out digestive systems.....

Edited by Sheri berri, 13 March 2006 - 05:23 AM.

[JeremyGTS]

i eat more veggies than meat mostly corn i love some corn!! but i wouldnt say ones better than the other though thats just my personal views as long as you balance the two you should be fine.

[Sherapy]

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Yeah right, that's why we have canine teeth is it?

We and the apes have a common ancestry. As the apes are omnivores not herivores it is reasonable to assume that we too are omnivores.

Saddly to say this is how most make decisons , one has cannine teeth so he must be a carnivore..lol

[Sherapy]

Jeremy its becoming well documented that meat is not good for you, once a month probably won't hurt you but other than that it is a detrement, Its the leading cause of heart disease, many cancers, so many things.........Its dead putrefied waste that has been injected full of hormones and antibiotics , i can't for the life of me see good health coming out of those conditions...

[artymoon]

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Saddly to say this is how most make decisons , one has cannine teeth so he must be a carnivore..lol

We are carnivores, if we weren't we wouldn't eat meat, simple as that. We crave meat, example; my sister in law was pregnant and before hand she was almost vegetarian, she'd eat fish occassionally and the sight of red meat made her cringe. While pregnant though she starting craving red meat and starting eating it and still does occassionally now. I think most are vegetarian because the are turned of by meat, the texture and the thought of chewing on flesh, not just because of health reasons.

[hyperactive]

arty,

i am vegan because of the science behind it, not because of "being turned off by chewing meat".  

We are opimally plant-eaters, but are generalists meaning we can eat meat if we need to.

[artymoon]

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arty,

i am vegan because of the science behind it, not because of "being turned off by chewing meat".  

We are opimally plant-eaters, but are generalists meaning we can eat meat if we need to.

Give me some scientific proof that herbivorin' over carnivorin' extends your life.

[Sherapy]

Arty hyper and myself posted plenty of info on just that di you not read it???/i also cited a book that is excelelnt on the subject Diet for a new America by john Robbins..

i too didn't become vegan becasue of a dislike for meat or an issue with eating meat, it wasa on a whim which through investigating and researching and learning i couldn't beleive i didn't do it sooner, i recovered great health in the first year, It just makes sense and the benefits are so astounding its absurd to argue the point...Even as a carvnivour i suspected that eating a vegan diet was optimal...Arty our body craves what you give it, if you give it meat it craves meat, i donot ever crave meat.....

Edited by Sheri berri, 13 March 2006 - 05:58 AM.

[et's daddy]

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We are opimally plant-eaters, but are generalists meaning we can eat meat if we need to.

i agree with the we have canine teeth therefore we are expected to eat meat idea

must be a reason cows have only grinding teeth

seems if i was supposed to eat like a cow i would have thier teeth

[artymoon]

Sheri, I get the feeling you just don't like the thought of killing animals, seriously what else could be such a driving motive. Because pushing health on people is kind of silly. People know they need to eat a balanced diet and exercise regularly, but choose not to because they're lazy.

[hyperactive]

well, et, you do have grinding teeth, as well as cutting teeth.

now, if you think your so well built for "carnivoring" get a video camera and tape you catching,killing, and ripping raw muscle tissue off that animal with your teeth, and post it here.

you can't.  your body can not rip raw meat well, and it can not digest it well because you are not designed for it.

[Sherapy]

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i agree with the we have canine teeth therefore we are expected to eat meat idea

must be a reason cows have only grinding teeth

seems if i was supposed to eat like a cow i would have thier teeth

Et we are omnivores which means you can eat both plant and animal protien, but we do  not need to  eat meat we choose to eat meat..In otherwords you have a choice, now if ther was no other thing to eat besides meat that is one thing but that is not the case, we ahve gone the opposite and meat is the center point of the diet many don't eat veggies or fruit or grains or nuts...Just like the human body isn't made to consume alcohol (I'm sure someone will come up with a way they are just sure we are naturally alchoholics) you can drink it but it will eventually show up as hypertension cirhosis diabeters etc etc.....

[et's daddy]

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well, et, you do have grinding teeth, as well as cutting teeth.

now, if you think your so well built for "carnivoring" get a video camera and tape you catching,killing, and ripping raw muscle tissue off that animal with your teeth, and post it here.

you can't.  your body can not rip raw meat well, and it can not digest it well because you are not designed for it.

yes actually i can do those things very easily

for i have a gun and a knife and i have mastered the use of fire

another thing that seperates me from the cows  

[Sherapy]

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Sheri, I get the feeling you just don't like the thought of killing animals, seriously what else could be such a driving motive. Because pushing health on people is kind of silly. People know they need to eat a balanced diet and exercise regularly, but choose not to because they're lazy.

Arty i care for the well being of my health and all others, In america we are the sickest unhealthiest society, over third world countries, encouraging health is not silly Arty its needed.....Arty everything begins with you, i can't afford to be lazy or lax i have kids that are watching me nor would i being sick is no fun nor any way to live nor is it productive to not care for the planet that sustains me i seem to muster up the incentive to be concerned about that.......But of course you should do whatever serves you...


I'd love to see that video moe and et do you except hypers challenge????  lol  .

Edited by Sheri berri, 13 March 2006 - 06:15 AM.