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#1    Saru

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Posted 18 September 2003 - 07:07 PM

In recent months there has been an increasing number of reports, sightings and even police warnings regarding large predatory cats, 'ABC's', on the loose in numerous parts of the British Isles. Putting aside any doubt that these cats really are here in the UK, what, if anything should be done about them ?

If the problem persists, and if the number of large cats in Britain increases to any great extent, it may be necessary to impose some sort of law regarding these animals, whether it be that they should be hunted down as soon as possible, or that they should be protected and allowed to live in the wild without human interference.

These cats obviously don't belong here, but if they are able to survive and breed in the wild, and don't pose any significant threat to humans, is there any real reason to hunt them down ?


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Posted 18 September 2003 - 07:14 PM

Aren't there laws there about invading species and what should be done with them? Here in New York we are allowed to kill geese if we dispose of the bodies.  

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Posted 18 September 2003 - 07:52 PM

QUOTE (spyro_86 @ Sep 18 2003, 02:14 PM)
Here in New York we are allowed to kill geese if we dispose of the bodies.

I highly doubt that. If it is true, that's just wrong.

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Posted 18 September 2003 - 07:55 PM

Leave them be...

They're numbers are not exactly huge, and it's just about impossible for anything even resembling a stable population to ever be in place. As time goes on, they're likely to become increasingly afraid of humans, not the other way round as might be expected (you ever see lions scatter like mice when the local Africans walk by with their kids...they're under no illusion as to who which species would wipe out which if it was needed, and neither would our own alien big cats).

Sooo, they're not exactly a danger to people, beyond the shock of a farmer waking up to find a dead sheep or two...we wiped out wolves in this country in a wave of hysteria and ignorance, maybe nature's earned a right to fill that hole with some imported talent tongue.gif  

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Posted 18 September 2003 - 07:59 PM

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Aren't there laws there about invading species and what should be done with them?


There are laws relating to the keeping of dangerous animals, but I don't know what the laws are on invading species.

For example the grey squirrel can be considered an invading species here in the UK, but I don't think the laws on wildlife preservation would allow people to go out and hunt them.

I'm not sure how legal it is to hunt down a big cat, it's not really something that has been an issue long enough to have warranted any new laws being passed.


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Posted 18 September 2003 - 08:19 PM

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The above link takes you to the current law in the UK regarding dangerous animals, which the ABC's would possibly come under if the situation got any worse.

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Posted 18 September 2003 - 08:27 PM

um...unless I'm missing something, that law's about the ownership of dangerous animals, not what to do with them when they're running around in the wild.

To the best of my knowledge, they're already included under that act, and keeping them requires a licence, and special circumstances. Big cats in the wild today are likely pets that were bought illegally, and then released when they got too big.

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Posted 18 September 2003 - 09:33 PM

Unless the cats become a problem to humans I can see no reason to to hunt them.  So they may take the occassional sheep but as long as the farmer is then compensated for the loss this should not be a problem, they are obviously finding far more suitable prey to live on anyway as the reports of sheep killings are few and far between.
As for the grey squirrel, it is perfectly legal to hunt them ( in scotland at least ) as long as you are in possession of a suitable firearm and licence and have the permission of the landowner.  Many farmers I know operate a shoot on sight policy as regards grey squirrels in an effort to preserve our dwindling red squirrel population



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Posted 19 September 2003 - 07:40 PM

I didn't mean that I hunt them. They are pretty much useless for food unless your a pro chef, or so I've heard. But here in New York you can kill them because they carry some disease in their excretion.

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Posted 19 September 2003 - 07:44 PM

That is what the law states regarding dangerous animals, as you can see it only covers animals in captivity being owned by someone, and not anything about the ones in the wild.

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Posted 21 September 2003 - 07:04 AM

There have been several sightings of the 'Black Beast' around where I live.
A local farmer has had several sheep taken by the creature, but is still insistant that he wouldn't shoot it - he is fascinated by it.
There has only been one report of one of these ABC's attacking a human, and that was just a nasty scratch.....we all know it could have been far worse.
So leave these animals well alone.........it would be worng to slaughter them!

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Posted 21 September 2003 - 07:06 AM

Hey - I just invented a word - 'worng'!!!!!

I meant 'WRONG' of course...........curse my insomnia  dontgetit.gif

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Posted 21 September 2003 - 07:12 AM

Just a little hint Hammy, there is an edit button, so if you find any mistakes in your post, you can click edit, which is just above your post, and then you can correct any errors you did.

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Posted 21 September 2003 - 08:24 AM

blimey............there's clever!

of course that's far too sensible for me to do ......  wacko.gif

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Posted 24 September 2003 - 02:24 AM

Leave the cats be





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