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Poll: Death, Life or Tourcher (34 member(s) have cast votes)

if someone commits a very high otrosity, or even war crimes which should they recive and why

  1. Death, the scum deservers to die! (12 votes [35.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 35.29%

  2. Life, Let him rot and think about what he/she did ! (12 votes [35.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 35.29%

  3. Tourcher, its a mix of death and life ! (10 votes [29.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.41%

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#16    Talon

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Posted 25 March 2006 - 04:32 AM

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torture is inhumane


So? If you capture a member of a terrorist Cell, and you need to know what his buddies intend to blow up, I really couldn't care less if torturing him for that info is 'inhumane'. I didn't see the Beslen terrorists acting in a humane manner when they stormed into a primary school, shot the males, raped the females (including the 5-year olds), and then proceeded to blow themselves up along with the children. So you'll have to excuse me, if I really don't care about the rights of sub-humans.

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Posted 25 March 2006 - 05:01 AM

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So? If you capture a member of a terrorist Cell, and you need to know what his buddies intend to blow up, I really couldn't care less if torturing him for that info is 'inhumane'. I didn't see the Beslen terrorists acting in a humane manner when they stormed into a primary school, shot the males, raped the females (including the 5-year olds), and then proceeded to blow themselves up along with the children. So you'll have to excuse me, if I really don't care about the rights of sub-humans.


sorry i forgot to edit, i meant the "terrorists" protecting their own country not the whole bombing thing, i meant people fighting off soilders in iraq but lets get back to the point.

If someone commits murder there should be a very good investigating with no missing details, and if they are found to be guilty, a shot in the head should do.
In Australia there was this one young man who was trafficing drugs to people in indonesia i think it was and we had a momorial day because he got executed. I mean he was bloody killing people with drugs and possible children, so i say he desrved to die. If you make a stupid choice then suffer the consiquinses.

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Posted 26 March 2006 - 02:48 PM

Torture,then lie to them and say they will be let free,then on the day they think they are allowed out, kill them.

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Posted 26 March 2006 - 08:08 PM

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you dont torture someone like hitler. he was the leader of the most feared enemy of the 20th century. an evil man yes, but you must repsect his military genius.  they would have sent him to prison, but he might have asked to be killed now that i think about it...


I'm not about to acknowledge a guy as a military genius after he fired all of his highest ranking generals and stormed into Siberia in the middle of the winter under his own command. But, in any case, I go with death as the appropriate punishment. Torture is inhumane, and making them suffer isn't going to help any. The point of the punishment is not to teach them a lesson, but to do justice to those that they wronged. Also, in prison, there would be a high cost of upkeep, and that small chance that the criminal can find a loop hole and get out. We can't risk them getting back into the public, and we could use the amount it takes to sustain them for much better things, such as compensation to the families of that persons victims or something of the like...


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Posted 26 March 2006 - 09:36 PM

Torture and Death penalty are inhumane...They make you just as bad as the criminal...Give them life...I personally think that's worse.

There are other ways to get info out of terrorists...Its called bribery and interrogation...Bribery as in protection and reduced sentence.

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Posted 26 March 2006 - 09:49 PM

I picked torture, so he can feel psychologicall, and physical pain. On what he/she did.

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Posted 26 March 2006 - 09:57 PM

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why does everyone harp on using the spell check? i can understand misspelled words so dont give them a hard time!


Hardly the point. If we are going to have an intelligent discussion the very least everyone can do is to take the time to spell things correctly.
More for their sake than everyone elses, they will rarely be taken seriously if it seems they cant even spell what they mean.


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Posted 26 March 2006 - 10:03 PM

Torturing the criminal makes you worse than the criminal himself...Plus, you can get tried for war crimes OR it can go bad like Abu Gharaid.

I hate it when people spell simple words wrongs...Its a pet peeve.

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Posted 26 March 2006 - 10:31 PM

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Torture and Death penalty are inhumane...They make you just as bad as the criminal...Give them life


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Torturing the criminal makes you worse than the criminal himself


How dare you. What makes you so high and mighty that you have the right to sit there and claim that people who murder and butcher children have the right to be treated as humans, and condemn those who are willing to do what is needed to protect us as criminals. I don’t mind you being a pacifist and so against the death penalty, but you have NO right to brand us with the same pen as criminals!
If in you're world defending our children and ourselves from predators might make us no better than the murderers, rapists and terrorists who kill without mercy and have no compassion towards others, but thankfully you're views are a minority.

Its because of people with that attitude crime in the west is out of control, criminals are given more human rights than victims, and that there are innocent people out there suffering and dying at the hands of sub-human scum, and all because people with the attitude as you have fight for the rights of criminals who lost their right to be members of society the moment they took arms against the decent law abiding members of society.

Give them life? Don’t me laugh, cause all that does is drain resources for schools and hospitals, while running the very real threat that some warped idiot with some arrogant and pompous view of the world and how it works will come along and demand the criminal’s right to live without bars and restraints because in their bleeding-heart fantasy the world is a big fluffy thing where everyone gets alone and even the worst members are only victims of their environments and should not be punished for it. When in real-life all that happens is prison gives the criminal an open gate to the outside world to commit their acts of horror all over again, all that’s needed is some pretentious do-gooder who believes the state defending its citizens makes it ‘just as bad as the criminal’, to come along and give the sub-human filth a key.


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Posted 27 March 2006 - 10:04 AM

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Torture,then lie to them and say they will be let free,then on the day they think they are allowed out, kill them.


Holy sh** !! BAHAHAH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   laugh.gif  thumbsup.gif  laugh.gif  thumbsup.gif


Talon, you seem to really love children, meybe a little to much  laugh.gif  thumbsup.gif joke

well think about it, some kills a child for whatever reson like the kid spilt and ice cream on him or something so he kills the lil bastard, so now we trail him. an eye for an eye. Others say prison some say for life, IM NOT TALKING ABOUT YOUNG CHILDREN YOU SICK F*** LETS ALLLL GET BACK TO THE SUBJECT OF MAJOR CRIME NOT JUST 1 LIFE BUT THOUSANDS EVEN MILLIONS. Hitler killed more than one i only swear to get back to the point and lets not go on about this.


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Posted 27 March 2006 - 01:59 PM

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Kill 'em and use their organs for transplants.


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Posted 27 March 2006 - 02:13 PM

You will never find out who the dark haired accomplice with an accent was from Timothy McVey. Maybe after years in prison under various tactics you could have. There is more to learn from the guilty than just how they came to be that way, although that is important too.

Nothing is more guanteed to close a case than an execution and the justice system wants these cases closed to appease the public. They are perfectly willing many times and in many places for an innocent person to take the fall if they are unable to find the guilty one in a timely fashion. That has been proven over and over again by the innocent people found in prison that have later been cleared.

You do not teach that people have a right to life by taking it away from some because sometimes there are "reasons" that make it ok.

The death penalty is wrong in so many ways.

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Posted 27 March 2006 - 05:48 PM

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well think about it, some kills a child for whatever reson like the kid spilt and ice cream on him or something so he kills the lil bastard, so now we trail him. an eye for an eye. Others say prison some say for life, IM NOT TALKING ABOUT YOUNG CHILDREN YOU SICK F*** LETS ALLLL GET BACK TO THE SUBJECT OF MAJOR CRIME NOT JUST 1 LIFE BUT THOUSANDS EVEN MILLIONS. Hitler killed more than one i only swear to get back to the point and lets not go on about this.


I'm sorry, you're grammar's pretty bad here, so I didn't quite follow everything. But the impression I get is you don't want us talking about crimes such as killing children because you don't see them as 'major' ad want us to discuss the death penatly in relation to mass murders like Hitler? huh.gif

Well, I don't know what you think killing children counts as, but as far I'm concerned, it does count as a 'major crime' huh.gif

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Posted 28 March 2006 - 09:26 AM

Sorry talon my gramma is some what.....s***, due to my retardedness, I am bosnian.
talon killing children who have futur is bad but 1 life compared to hundreds of thousands is a different story, like lets say killing MANY children, that would be major major, get it ?
i wish to stay on the subject of mass murder not just murder, mass murder on a wide scale.

kill one child.
Kill hundreds of thousands.


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Posted 31 March 2006 - 09:58 PM

Yeah, you are really making no sense.






Life in prison....and not like some prison where you got all these comforts. A Place with 8x8 box with a mattress, pillow, blanket, and toilet and sink, and a slot in the door for food. Don't kill them, but don't make life easy.

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