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#1    frogfish

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Posted 14 April 2006 - 08:07 PM

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Antibiotics 'could treat asthma'  

The study suggested symptoms of asthma were reduced by the drug
Antibiotics could be useful in the treatment of asthma, research suggests.
There is no cure for the condition which affects 5.2m people in the UK but its symptoms are eased using steroids.

But an international study of 278 patients suggests an antibiotic, Telithromycin, can reduce symptoms of asthma and improve lung function.

Recovery times from acute attacks were also reduced by the drug, which is used to treat sinusitis, the New England Journal of Medicine study said.

  This development could open up a whole new area of research

Professor Sebastian Johnston
Lead author

Patients in 70 centres around the world, including St Mary's Hospital in London, were enrolled in the study within 24 hours of needing medical attention for an acute asthma attack and split into two groups.

One group were given 800 mgs of Telithromycin daily for 10 days while the other received a dummy version of the drug.

Both were given the usual treatment for asthma as well.

Symptoms and lung function for the patients in the Telithromycin group improved significantly compared to those given the dummy drug.

Improvements were around twice as great towards the end of the treatment period, the researchers said.

And recovery time from an acute attack was also reduced from eight to five days for those on the drug, which is not licensed for the treatment of asthma.

'New area'

However, no improvement was seen in tests of lung capacity.

Most acute asthma attacks are thought to be linked with viral infections which are not affected by antibiotics.

But the researchers believe the positive effects of the drug may be as a result of its impact on two bacteria - Chlamydophila pneumoniae and Mycoplasma pneumoniae - found present in 61% of patients in the study.

They think the presence of these bacteria could make asthma attacks more severe and that the anti-inflammatory effects of Telithromycin play a part in reducing recovery time.

Research leader Professor Sebastian Johnston, from Imperial College London, said that although antibiotics traditionally have not proven effective in treating asthma attacks, this development could open up a whole new area of research.

Further research

"Although we're not sure about the exact mechanism which caused this antibiotic to be effective, this study indicates it does clearly have a beneficial effect.

"We still need further trials to confirm these results, to investigate the mechanisms of action of this treatment, to see if the same benefits are seen with other related antibiotics and to see which patients are most likely to benefit."

A spokeswoman for Asthma UK said: "This is an interesting first step into a possible new approach to asthma.

"Further research will be needed before we can fully determine the possible benefits for people with asthma."

Telithromycin is not commonly used in the UK but can treat a range of infections such as community-acquired pneumonia, chronic bronchitis and sinusitis.


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Posted 14 April 2006 - 10:05 PM

Frog NOT true, as a asthma sufferer for many years NOTHING helps Nothing except No animal products,In my case I have been asthma free for 3 years i changed my diet........90 percent of issues are diet related. i also use a holistic doctor.. change and prevention starts there.....I recently had a conversation with a doctor of internal medicine who said health begins with diet and excersice...(UCLA harbor)

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Posted 14 April 2006 - 10:10 PM

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Frog NOT true, as a asthma sufferer for many years NOTHING helps

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Nothing except No animal products, I have been asthma free for 3 years i changed my diet........90 percent of issues are diet related... change and prevention starts there.....I recently had a conversation with a doctor of internal medicine who said health begins with diet and excersice...(UCLA harbor)

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Posted 14 April 2006 - 10:25 PM

well frog its wrong, i used to do antibiotics and know others who did too and it didn't help, IMO its just another drug being pushed by the drug companys....Frog did antibiiotics help you????Evryonre wants a puill or a shot when the thing is the health we find ourselves in is mostly of our doing, a little genetics but not nearly as much as the choices we make.....Agin the preventables are diet and excersice....



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Posted 15 April 2006 - 01:22 AM

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well frog its wrong

I think these are respected scientists, not drug companies...It is right yes.gif

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Frog did antibiiotics help you

Yes they did...Without them, I could barely play tennis...Now I am our #1 seeded Singles on Varsity as a freshman. They helped me.

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the health we find ourselves in is mostly of our doing

Not always

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a little genetics but not nearly as much as the choices we make

Actually, genetics play a big part...Familial diseases, and many, MANY other diseases/disorders.

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Agin the preventables are diet and excersice

Not always...Many asthmatics can't even excercise!

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Posted 15 April 2006 - 04:18 AM

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I think these are respected scientists, not drug companies...It is right yes.gif
Yes they did...Without them, I could barely play tennis...Now I am our #1 seeded Singles on Varsity as a freshman. They helped me.
Not always
Actually, genetics play a big part...Familial diseases, and many, MANY other diseases/disorders.
Not always...Many asthmatics can't even excercise!

frog did you even read my post I was a very serious asthmatic i know how crippling it is young man, antibiotics did not help me not ever nothing did, I do not respect a scientist that says drugs will cure things sorry but you are young and there is much you have yet to learn.......I'm happy for you tha tantibiotics helped  do you still ahve asthma idf so they did  nothing more than bandaid....I am cured of asthma,Genetics counts ofr 10 percent frog, very little considering the other 90% is up to you....



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Posted 15 April 2006 - 07:07 PM

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antibiotics did not help me not ever nothing did

The antibiotic in the article is relatively new yes.gif

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do not respect a scientist that says drugs will cure things

Then you are demeaning to a great scientist and missing out on an awesome potential cure.

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you are young and there is much you have yet to learn.......

Like what?

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do you still ahve asthma idf so they did nothing more than bandaid

No more asthma for me...
Medicine is not a bandaid...It is a cure yes.gif

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Genetics counts ofr 10 percent frog, very little considering the other 90% is up to you....

That sounds like biased data to me? Can excercise and diet cure familial hypercholesterolemia? Can excersize and diet cure Parkinson's, ALS, MS, Alzheimer's, Neurofibramatosis, Graves Disease, Addison's, Myxedema, the list can go on and on....The answer is no...But medicine can yes.gif

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Posted 15 April 2006 - 10:46 PM

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The antibiotic in the article is relatively new yes.gif
Then you are demeaning to a great scientist and missing out on an awesome potential cure.
Like what?
No more asthma for me...
Medicine is not a bandaid...It is a cure yes.gif
That sounds like biased data to me? Can excercise and diet cure familial hypercholesterolemia? Can excersize and diet cure Parkinson's, ALS, MS, Alzheimer's, Neurofibramatosis, Graves Disease, Addison's, Myxedema, the list can go on and on....The answer is no...But medicine can yes.gif

Frog it can't if medicine could cure these things it would of, they don't know how one gets them???I truly see your innocence in the beleif of medicine and i think its noble, your heart is beautiful froggy, Frog what does an antibiotic do it triggers an immune response the immunity does the rest , the human body does the healing and anything said otherwise is a misunderstanding..... ever cut yourself????? the wonder of the human body is amazing medicine is infantile in its understandings at this point.....I see progress in that medicine is finally beginnig to understand how we care for the body determines the health alot more then we  ever knew or understood before...Family heredity can be seen that we pass along habits that lead to disease......Frog one who thinks they know it all are stupid becasue they cut themselves off from all further learning you never want to know it all, its the quickest way to dumb yourself down.........



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Posted 15 April 2006 - 11:15 PM

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Frog it can't if medicine could cure these things it would of, they don't know how one gets them???

Medicine can cure or at least alleviate most of them...We do know how you get them!

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Frog what does an antibiotic do it triggers an immune response the immunity does the rest , the human body does the healing and anything said otherwise is a misunderstanding

So?

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Family heredity can be seen that we pass along habits that lead to disease

Actually no...Familial diseases are a more severe case of disease caused by genetics...Familial hypercholesterolemia causes cholesterol levels of 500 and Familial Colon Cancer causes more than 2000 polyps in the colon.

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Frog one who thinks they know it all are stupid becasue they cut themselves off from all further learning you never want to know it all, its the quickest way to dumb yourself down.........

When did I ever say that? I am just showing what modern medicine can do...Not shutting myself from it for selfish reasons like you.

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Posted 15 April 2006 - 11:27 PM

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Medicine can cure or at least alleviate most of them...We do know how you get them!
So?
Actually no...Familial diseases are a more severe case of disease caused by genetics...Familial hypercholesterolemia causes cholesterol levels of 500 and Familial Colon Cancer causes more than 2000 polyps in the colon.
When did I ever say that? I am just showing what modern medicine can do...Not shutting myself from it for selfish reasons like you.

frog chillax i think it has its place and I'm optimistic that we are growing in that area, but I'm also clear that my health is my responsibility there is another side Frog, the drain we americans are too our health care system money that could be used to more than eleviate the incurables is mounting and this is the first generation that will not out live their parents. due to preventable diseases....Frog the body produces cholesterol, we don't need it and animal products are high in it which only leads one plavce poor health and passing on disease as you are speaking of It is my understanding tha tmeat and dairy are the leading contributors to colon cancer..... We both care my friend just approach from differnt perspectives.....Alleviate and cure are not the same. ...



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Posted 15 April 2006 - 11:31 PM

You can't cure asthma... only treat it. Many adults think that they don't have it anymore and stop treating it which makes it worse several years down the road.

Steroids DO help, when I ended up in emergency they gave me a kind of sterioid which helped me a lot. I was surprised at this article because I didn't think this was a new discovery.

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Posted 15 April 2006 - 11:40 PM

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Frog the body produces cholesterol, we don't need it and animal products are high in it which only leads one plavce poor health and passing on disease as you are speaking of It is my understanding tha tmeat and dairy are the leading contributors to colon cancer

Not in Familial disease...It is all genetic.

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Steroids DO help, when I ended up in emergency they gave me a kind of sterioid which helped me a lot. I was surprised at this article because I didn't think this was a new discovery.

Steroids help...Antibiotics used for Asthma is not new, but the antibiotic used is new.

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Posted 16 April 2006 - 12:13 AM

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You can't cure asthma... only treat it. Many adults think that they don't have it anymore and stop treating it which makes it worse several years down the road.

Steroids DO help, when I ended up in emergency they gave me a kind of sterioid which helped me a lot. I was surprised at this article because I didn't think this was a new discovery.

none of that helped me not ever I cut out dairy and meat and i have been asthma free for three years, I no longer use my inhaler the first time I ran i started crying its a very crippling disease your life becomes about it....I'm not an isolated story I have met others also who have a life beyond asthma........i also changed to a holistic doctor, my health has been improving ever since I'm almost 40 and have better health now then I ever did...but this is my experience.....I got sick of not feeling good and sought alternative methods....

Edited by Sheri berri, 16 April 2006 - 12:17 AM.




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Posted 16 April 2006 - 12:32 AM

Good for you thumbsup.gif I'm gladly also asthma-free for nearly 5 years.

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Posted 16 April 2006 - 01:00 AM

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Good for you thumbsup.gif I'm gladly also asthma-free for nearly 5 years.

you too frog thats awesome and yours was antibiotics??????






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