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Would Spinosaurus win a fight with T-Rex?


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Posted 30 April 2006 - 10:47 PM

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the idea that a creature could evolve which would die or become critically injured if it tripped seems more than a little far-fetched.

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In actuality neither predator would be intelligent enough to develop anything resembling a coherent strategy

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In a conflict between a Spinosaurus and a Charcharodontosaurus, it would be more likely that a dinosaur would be scared off...Not attacked.

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Posted 30 April 2006 - 10:47 PM

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Would Spinosaurus win a fight with T-Rex? I think yes.

1. It can uses its fornt claws.

2. Its a littil biger.

3. Just look at it!


I might be wrong but the Spinosaurus is in fact smaller than a t-rex but made bigger for the movies. Same with the velociraptor, it is only 1 meter tall not the large man sized thing in JP 1, 2 and 3.

I could be wrong but I read it out of this magazine I use to buy years and years ago called "Dinosaurs!"


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Posted 30 April 2006 - 10:48 PM

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I might be wrong but the Spinosaurus is in fact smaller than a t-rex but made bigger for the movies

Actually. Spinosaurus is larger than T-rex...We cannot say for sure, but it was probably longer by 5-10 feet.

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Posted 01 May 2006 - 12:57 AM

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I might be wrong but the Spinosaurus is in fact smaller than a t-rex but made bigger for the movies. Same with the velociraptor, it is only 1 meter tall not the large man sized thing in JP 1, 2 and 3.

I could be wrong but I read it out of this magazine I use to buy years and years ago called "Dinosaurs!"


Tyrannosaurus is generally estimated to have been in the area of 40 feet long, give or take. Spinosaurus estimates vary wildly, due to the fragmentary nature of the specimens (many of which were destroyed in World War II and thus are not availible for comparison), but it is widely believed to have been roughly 50 feet long on average and may have been upwards of 60 feet.

There was a debate regarding the size of spinosaurus and its possible claim to the title of largest theropod dinosaur in the past few months, which you can read here.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showtopic=65295

As for the Jurassic Park films, they are indeed inaccurate, but I have discussed this at length in various other threads, so I will humbly leave the matter at that. original.gif

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Posted 01 May 2006 - 10:52 AM

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that may be true but like we said t-rex was very strong and heavily built guys like that don't go down easy.

You all seme to be forgeting that spino was just as poweful. And if it was nock over it cood stop it self with its longer then T-rex's arms. And it cood pick it self up faster.

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Posted 01 May 2006 - 11:01 AM

I just thart of some thing, Spinosaurus ate fish wich mines it "mite of" Been able to swim. what if it attack the T-rex as it was geting a drink of water. Like a croc.

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Posted 01 May 2006 - 11:12 AM

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I might be wrong but the Spinosaurus is in fact smaller than a t-rex but made bigger for the movies. Same with the velociraptor, it is only 1 meter tall not the large man sized thing in JP 1, 2 and 3.

I could be wrong but I read it out of this magazine I use to buy years and years ago called "Dinosaurs!"

First off that Velociraptor was more likly a Deinonychus. They most likly chaned the names arond. A Velociraptor is ONLY found in asian. Not in the US.

And I look up the two dinosaurs (T-rex and Spinosaurus). I fund it on the www.jpinstitute.com. It tells the truth about the dinos. Not what was in the movies. I look it all up in books so thats how I know thae tell the truth.

Tyrannosaurus rex
  
  
Pronounced:tie - Ran - o - Saw - rus
Diet:Carnivore (Meat-Eater)
Name Means:"tyrant lizard"
Length:40 feet (13 m)
Height:16 feet (5 m)
Weight:6 tons (6,000 kilos)
Time:Late Cretaceous - 67 MYA

Spinosaurus
Spinosaurus aegyptiacus
  
  
Pronounced:Spy - no - Saw - rus
Diet:Carnivore (Meat-Eater)
Name Means:"spine lizard"
Length:45 feet (15 m)
Height:16 feet (5 m)
Weight:6 tons (6,000 kilos)
Time:Middle Cretaceous - 100 MYA

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Posted 01 May 2006 - 11:44 AM

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First off that Velociraptor was more likly a Deinonychus. They most likly chaned the names arond. A Velociraptor is ONLY found in asian. Not in the US.


While the size and body shape are closer to deinonychus, they were indeed intended to be velociraptors. This is taken from the novel, which featured (correctly sized) velociraptors.

As to the question of spinosaurus's arms, I don't think they really enter into the picture much. Though they were longer than tyrannosaurus's they were not long enough to make much of a difference. Spinosaurus still couldn't scratch its chin.

As to the question of a battle at the water's edge...an interesting proposition, and more to spinosaurus's advantage. However, the problem is that crocodiles, even very large crocodiles, are only a couple of feet high. Spinosaurus was, as you pointed out, over 15 feet tall, with a prominent sail. It simply could not hide in shallow or even moderately shallow water. Thus, it could not snatch its opponent by surprise - it would still have to grapple, which again is not to its advantage.

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Posted 01 May 2006 - 11:50 AM

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Spinosaurus was, as you pointed out, over 15 feet tall, with a prominent sail. It simply could not hide in shallow or even moderately shallow water. Thus, it could not snatch its opponent by surprise - it would still have to grapple, which again is not to its advantage.

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Posted 01 May 2006 - 04:37 PM

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Well know one ever sead T-rex had brains.


Okay, I had a good belly laugh over that one.  thumbsup.gif

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Posted 01 May 2006 - 05:11 PM

I can imagine the Spino flailing away at the T-Rex like a girl... and the T-Rex EATING the arms, then the Spino....  dontgetit.gif


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Posted 01 May 2006 - 10:59 PM

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Well know one ever sead T-rex had brains.

I hope you were sarcastic...

Spino has no adaptations for swimming whatsoever, and could not ambush prey from water just a couple feet deep.

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You all seme to be forgeting that spino was just as poweful. And if it was nock over it cood stop it self with its longer then T-rex's arms. And it cood pick it self up faster

2 spino arms can stop 6 tons from falling? I don't think so....

both dinosaurs would just get right back up if they fell....

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Posted 01 May 2006 - 11:06 PM

T Rex had (though short) some of the (pound for pound)
stougest arms out of any of the dinosaurs.
Tyranosaurus would beat him hands down


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Posted 01 May 2006 - 11:39 PM

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T Rex had (though short) some of the (pound for pound)
stougest arms out of any of the dinosaurs.

All they were used for was balance and possibly to help get up...

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Posted 02 May 2006 - 12:13 AM

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While the size and body shape are closer to deinonychus, they were indeed intended to be velociraptors. This is taken from the novel, which featured (correctly sized) velociraptors.


Ah, but there is a Utahraptor, which is about the same size as in the movie. They were large, mean little buggers. And, as I was told by my paleo prof a few years ago, Spielberg had artificially increased the size of the raptors in the movie to make them more menacing. The scientific community snickered at how ridiculously sized they were. A year or so later, they discovered a type of velociraptor that was the same size.

Spinosaurus vs T-rex? I dunno. Spinosaurus has the arms and size advantage, but his jaws were much weaker since he was a fish-eater (as someone pointed out) and have you ever seen a Spinosaurus aegypticus tooth? It's small and weak. Not quite as fearsome as JP3. T-rex has teeth built for crushing bone, while Spinosaurus has teeth built for catching fish, with delicate bones. It would be hard to tell which would be the victor. In water, I'd say Spinosaurus, since he has an advantage there.

Now if one of them had lasers, then it wouldn't be contest. But I think lasers on dinosaurs would be cool.

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