[Christophera]

Yea, ................ the mother of all conspiracies, secrets.

The notion that 2 towers would end up tangled steel, SAND & GRAVEL from collapse is absurd.

Oh, .......... and it looks like this.



The most sophisticated demolition in history done with towers built to demolish in a global conspiracy spanning over half a century. Not the topic of this thread.

The FEMA lie about the core. The topic of this thread.

NOTE: Who remembers seeing a 1990 2 hour documentary airing on PBS called "The Construction Of The Twin Towers." Ask friends and family.

Here the concrete core is documented.

http://concretecore.741.com

and here the demolition plan is reverse engineered to show the feasibility and final realistic effects of placing high explosives inside the cast concrete core walls as a coating on high tensile steel rebar.

http://algoxy.com/ps...11scenario.html

Please, emphasize the concrete core lie to those perhaps not ready for the "built to demolish" aspect. It tends to be too much for them, let them examine the lie for now.

Here is a final understanding that most people familiar, from television, with big quarry blast and building demolitions should see quite easily.

The below image,



shows an effect that is only possibe under a VERY narrow set of circumstances. I have some experience with blasting and firstly, the uniformity of the expanding materials is astounding. If high explosives are not confined exactly in the center of the mineral material, minimum fracturing occurs, and huge gas jets blow into space with small bullet like rock flying up.

Note in the above image the vertical valley between the debris wave on the right and the one coming towards the camera. That represents the plane of the walls of the core at 90 degrees expanding outward at perhaps 10,000 foot per second for the first 40-70 feet, velocity decaying, then arcing falling. The planes are expanding away from each other so form the valley between them. Accomplished with a high speed series of digital delays wired into the security phone circuits of the towers.

Its all here, even the method the interior box columns, (not core columns) were cut by high explosives. Built to demolish. We have bigger problems than demo'ed towers, gotta tear the scab off and clean up or lose our republic and its democracy.

http://algoxy.com/ps...11scenario.html

Times a wastin' been too long already.

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"Times a wastin' been too long already."

The above quote is true. Plus all the steel,iron etc. was either dumped at sea or sold to foreign countries. The whole investigation was a whitewash.Some crime scene investigation.Destroy the evidence.Unfortunatly too many people beleive the 'Gov.' excuse (lie).

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"Times a wastin' been too long already."

The above quote is true. Plus all the steel,iron etc. was either dumped at sea or sold to foreign countries. The whole investigation was a whitewash.Some crime scene investigation.Destroy the evidence.Unfortunatly too many people beleive the 'Gov.' excuse (lie).

Of course the excuse the government made in the terrirble job they did in the aftermath of 9/11 was out of respect for the victims. They didn't release any evidence or details out of respect for the victims and there families. That's why evidence is being covered up to this day.


I don't know about explosives being built into the building. That's a stretch. Interesting thought though.

[Christophera]

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Of course the excuse the government made in the terrirble job they did in the aftermath of 9/11 was out of respect for the victims. They didn't release any evidence or details out of respect for the victims and there families.

They definitely used that as an excuse. A set of cognitive distortions imposed on the public, emotional reasoning and minimizing, Generalizations to justify attacking Afghanisatan and Iraq.

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That's why evidence is being covered up to this day.

The aspect of the lie about the core shows the intent form the beginning to prevent any ability to investigate as well as the continuing cover up today you point out. The NY mayor took the WTC documents and will not return them. Courts won't make him follow laws. He was knighted BTW.

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I don't know about explosives being built into the building. That's a stretch. Interesting thought though.

"Buitl in" Yes, I know it is a stretch. However, when you realize that the only feasible, realistic explanation for free fall and pulverization hinge on the fact

The image above of the exploding tower actually cannot be created any other way than building the explosives in. If explosives are not optimally placed and distributed the effect is completely different. The uniformity of the explosion above is amazing. I have the experience to recognize that, others do too. A few days ago I received an email from a demolitions contractor.

Subject: 
deception achieved
Date: 
Wed, 24 May 2006 22:43:27 -0700

Awesome work, very well presented with great links. I am a demolition contractor for 30 years and it all fits and always believed this was the case.Now there needs to be the rest of the story.

Bombs and explosive not placed in the center of concrete will blow small holes and mostly reflect outward. Yes, hard to believe. Remember what hermann ghoering told hitler, that "the more outrageous the lie, the easier it will be believed."

And, the truth will explain free fall and pulveriztion.

http://algoxy.com/ps...11scenario.html

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Thermite?

[Christophera]

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Thermite?

In the basement and first floor interior and perimeter box columns. Installed as a part of the remodel following the van bomb.

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In the basement and first floor interior and perimeter box columns. Installed as a part of the remodel following the van bomb.

Makes more sense than jet fuel. There were reports of explosions in the basement. It tooka LOT of heat to turn all that iron into liquid.(molten)

[Christophera]

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Makes more sense than jet fuel. There were reports of explosions in the basement. It took a LOT of heat to turn all that iron into liquid.(molten)

The exlosions were to divide the seismic signals between 2 events. The plane impacts were used to disguise the basement detonations.

http://algoxy.com/ps...l#anchor1205439

Later the core was detonated to the ground, after thermite was used to drop the last standing steel that was nearer the ground and very thick.

http://algoxy.com/ps...l#anchor1232703

If the steel would have been in place for this, much of it would have been thrown into surrounding buildings.

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Christophera, You and others that have an open mind and know the difference between black and white should have been on the 911 commission. The facts speak for themselves. Too many beat around the' busher's' and outright fibbers whitewashed the whole deal.

[Christophera]

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Christophera, You and others that have an open mind and know the difference between black and white should have been on the 911 commission. The facts speak for themselves. Too many beat around the' busher's' and outright fibbers whitewashed the whole deal.

Our discussion is causing people to lose their fear of what each other will think if we question authority on this. For example. I received an email from a demolition contractor who had examined my site in detail.


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Subject: 
deception achieved
Date: 
Wed, 24 May 2006 22:43:27 -0700

Awesome work, very well presented with great links. I am a demolition contractor for 30 years and it all fits and always believed this was the case. Now there needs to be the rest of the story.

There are a few knowledgeable people who realize that the event witnessed can only happen under very limited conditions. Very limited.

Yea, ......... the first time around it got whitewashed, but next time, we'll get the real picture. I feel they will have to use the scenario assembled as a guide, only because not one other belivable means has been produced in 5 years.

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"Yea, ......... the first time around it got whitewashed, but next time, we'll get the real
picture"

Ohhh.... I'm not so sure. Oklahoma City as an example.

[MK ULTRA]

Does anyone have any thoughts about the 2 bright flashes that seem to come from a chopper hovering above the first towers collapse?(caught on 911 eyewitness)
The chopper flys slowly into the thick smoke and lingers around the top of the south tower,A couple of bright flashes occur,then it quickly flys away out of the smoke.
A second later and the tower collapses?!

I feel,(if there is a conspiracy ) that something much more than explosives were used.
Maybe some sort of radiation,secret,black project weapon.(wheres my tin foil hat? )
If this was planned by "the illuminati" surely these guys would have such sophisticated weapons,through their links with the military.
It just seems a bit old fashioned,too strategic and risky to organise where to put all that TNT!!!!
The fact that the towers just turned to dust strikes me as strange,that would take massive amounts of explosives to achieve,wouldnt it?

[Christophera]

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Maybe some sort of radiation,secret,black project weapon.(wheres my tin foil hat? )
If this was planned by "the illuminati" surely these guys would have such sophisticated weapons,through their links with the military.
It just seems a bit old fashioned,too strategic and risky to organise where to put all that TNT!!!!
The fact that the towers just turned to dust strikes me as strange,that would take massive amounts of explosives to achieve,wouldnt it?

My take on the technologies that might be available is that they firstly, are not as developed as we hear. It is a psyop to make people believe that the omnipotent government can wield such power. Secondly, the secret societies do not have a front organization that actually has the power which is presented. That is presented to create fear and reduce opposition, demoralize. The power to use publicity, sure, but not to control the many it takes for the time taken to get this done as we saw.

It is up to the public to think what they secret societies want them to.


Here is the page that explains how the explosives must be placed and distributed.

http://algoxy.com/ps...11scenario.html

Your point about "dust" is well made. Although they weren't quite reduced to that point, they were still pulverized to a degree where it is absolutely certain that the explosives were perfectly placed and distributed. Building them in is the only way to do this under conditions. The page above is actually the ONLY realistic and feasible explanation for free fall in existence.

[MK ULTRA]

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Good points,cheers for the link.I'll take a closer look when I've got more time.Im impressed with your site too,nice one.

The spire dissolving to nothingness has always baffled me,and the tops of the buildings,esp the south tower tipping east,yet falling down on the streets as dust? hows that?
No pancake effect from floors above,to crush them?

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[Christophera]

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Good points,cheers for the link.I'll take a closer look when I've got more time.Im impressed with your site too,nice one.

The spire dissolving to nothingness has always baffled me,and the tops of the buildings,esp the south tower tipping east,yet falling down on the streets as dust? hows that?
No pancake effect from floors above,to crush them?

It sure does appear to dissolve, or I thought so for a very long time. Then one day I realized that there is a shock wave from the C4 coated rebar nestled against it down lower that knocks all the dust off the upper portion as it falls.

Here are 2 images you might appreciate. The first is the spire (no steel core columns are seen). The light is blocked, obscuring the frames of the interior box column and floor beams by the concrete shear wall in back.



The next image is one second later and the steel spire has fallen. This image is from the same camera but zoomed differently. Note where the spire was and that the fine vertical elements there are the tallest of the many. Note the top is slightly lower than the spire was. They are 3 inch rebar on 4 foot centers.



The C4 coating on the bar had been exposed too long during winter construciton and was cast in concrete before they realized the coating had lost it's viability. After it was cast it was too late. However, fresher horizontal bar, smaller, still having viable explosive had been tied in to the vertical rebar and that detonated properly fracturing the concrete without damaging the high tensile 3 inch steel delivered in 400 foot sections then butt welded and xrayed before being recoated. The process is described on the scenario page.