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#76    Siddhas100

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 07:39 PM

View Postvitruvian12, on 08 May 2011 - 03:00 PM, said:

What is the energy of unity? Specifically its magnitude and unit of measurement.

What will I use to measure with? pure potential energy...

Edited by Siddhas100, 08 May 2011 - 07:41 PM.


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Posted 08 May 2011 - 10:20 PM

View PostSiddhas100, on 08 May 2011 - 07:39 PM, said:

What will I use to measure with? pure potential energy...
So in other words its a completely made up notion that doesnt need to be quantified in the way any other branch of science measures energy.


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Posted 08 May 2011 - 10:22 PM

View Postvitruvian12, on 08 May 2011 - 10:20 PM, said:

So in other words its a completely made up notion that doesnt need to be quantified in the way any other branch of science measures energy.

Not sure what that assumption has to do with me, but like I said, what will I use to measure it with? When did I say that? You telling me that pure potential energy does not exist?


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Posted 08 May 2011 - 10:26 PM

There is nothing called Pure Potential Energy or Impure Potential Energy...its all just Potential Energy.
Energy is quantifiable. you energy of unity does not qualify unless its quantifiable.

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 10:29 PM

View PostSiddhas100, on 08 May 2011 - 10:22 PM, said:

Not sure what that assumption has to do with me, but like I said, what will I use to measure it with? When did I say that? You telling me that pure potential energy does not exist?
Im telling you energy exists, but it can be measured and expressed in appropriate units, Joules for example. You throw the term "energy" around like it has mystical qualities that cant be put into objective scientific terms


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Posted 08 May 2011 - 10:29 PM

View PostSiddhas100, on 08 May 2011 - 10:22 PM, said:

Not sure what that assumption has to do with me, but like I said, what will I use to measure it with? When did I say that? You telling me that pure potential energy does not exist?

Except as a philosophical description of  the "Energy of Information", no. See Paolo Manzelli et al.

Energy is, if it is potential it is matter, if it is pure it is not potential.

But that happens when somebody reads something and did not understand what he was reading.

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 10:29 PM

View PostThe Spartan, on 08 May 2011 - 10:26 PM, said:

There is nothing called Pure Potential Energy or Impure Potential Energy...its all just Potential Energy.
Energy is quantifiable. you energy of unity does not qualify unless its quantifiable.

Pure just means energy in the latent potential form. That is all, it's what I was calling it if you want to be specific. Sorry for the confusion. You must be bored? I own or have a unit of energy?  So you are saying potential energy does not exist?

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 10:31 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 08 May 2011 - 10:29 PM, said:

Except as a philosophical description of  the "Energy of Information", no. See Paolo Manzelli et al.

Energy is, if it is potential it is matter, if it is pure it is not potential.

But that happens when somebody reads something and did not understand what he was reading.

Again, pure was just what I called it. Not sure if anyone else is doing that. All potential energy is matter? What happens when someone assumes what someone is talking about without being telepathic or having a more thorough explanation from the person? you must be bored too...

Edited by Siddhas100, 08 May 2011 - 10:32 PM.


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Posted 08 May 2011 - 10:32 PM

View PostSiddhas100, on 08 May 2011 - 10:29 PM, said:

Pure just means energy in the latent potential form. That is all, it's what I was calling it if you want to be specific. Sorry for the confusion. You must be bored? I own or have a unit of energy?  So you are saying potential energy does not exist?
I think youve made it clear that you dont know what potential energy is or how it is expressed.


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Posted 08 May 2011 - 10:33 PM

View Postvitruvian12, on 08 May 2011 - 10:32 PM, said:

I think youve made it clear that you dont know what potential energy is or how it is expressed.

really, I haven't made anything clear. You are assuming too much without me saying a lot. I am under he impression that U do not in fact understand this concept. But I maybe wrong. Would you like to get to the bottom of this?

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 10:35 PM

View Postvitruvian12, on 08 May 2011 - 10:32 PM, said:

I think youve made it clear that you dont know what potential energy is or how it is expressed.

Please explain or show how I do not will you then?


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Posted 08 May 2011 - 10:42 PM

View PostSiddhas100, on 08 May 2011 - 10:33 PM, said:

really, I haven't made anything clear. You are assuming too much without me saying a lot. I am under he impression that U do not in fact understand this concept. But I maybe wrong. Would you like to get to the bottom of this?
You are correct in assuming I dont understand what the energy of unity is and how a man made digit (the number one) can store it any better than any other digit (take your pick). As far as the energy that exists in this world it can be measured and the results conveyed in a unit that is objective. Potential energy is simply the amount of energy stored in a body due to its position.


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Posted 08 May 2011 - 10:43 PM

View PostSiddhas100, on 08 May 2011 - 10:35 PM, said:

Please explain or show how I do not will you then?
You made it clear by being unable to define it or how its related in terms of units.


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Posted 08 May 2011 - 10:44 PM

View PostSiddhas100, on 08 May 2011 - 10:29 PM, said:

Pure just means energy in the latent potential form. That is all, it's what I was calling it if you want to be specific. Sorry for the confusion. You must be bored? I own or have a unit of energy?  So you are saying potential energy does not exist?

As virtuvian was pointing out, your concept of energy is flawed.

An Unit of Energy is not same as the Energy of Unity.
An Unit of Energy is joule!
Please tell me ..what is the "Unit" of this "Energy of Unity"

Edited by The Spartan, 08 May 2011 - 10:46 PM.

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 10:45 PM

View PostThe Spartan, on 08 May 2011 - 10:44 PM, said:

As virtuvian was pointing out, your concept of energy is flawed.

An Unit of Energy is not same as the Energy of Unity.
An Unit of Energy is quantifiable.!

relatively quantifiable please.

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