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#1    Sherapy

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Posted 02 June 2006 - 02:16 AM

Don't you Love those ads, the milk mustache ones , celebertys touting the modern  marvels of Milk....How about the latest commercials "make sure to get a few glasses of low fat milk each day to stay fit.......How about the calcium claims???wow there are alot of them......
Interestingly these commercials that  'claim' the calcium from milk will seriously cut the risk of ostepphorsis ....Except the FDA says there is no such evidence
??Hmmm

Anyone seen the ads that milk will lower high blood pressure???What an oxymoron there , animal that causes High Blood pressure , now  lowers blood pressure???hmmmm
( I guess they think we'll belive anything)



Calcium from milk makes strong bones in women?????? Not according to the 12 years nurses study it seems that women who drank two glasses of milk actually had a risk of  1.45 times higher that those that didn't...How can this be?????




(dedicated to one who takes a low key approach to the meat issues of the day LOL  private joke between hyper and myself ....)

Got Milk????? Or Got B.S.???????    Discuss

Edited by Sheri berri, 02 June 2006 - 02:17 AM.


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Posted 02 June 2006 - 02:19 AM

i think it is the meat that raises blood pressure, not the milk, sorry Sherri but i like my milk original.gif


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Posted 02 June 2006 - 02:25 AM

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i think it is the meat that raises blood pressure, not the milk, sorry Sherri but i like my milk original.gif

Larry King was in a milk ad claiming that Milk will lower blood pressure...yet the FDA said there is no evidence of this...Did you see the commercial Rambo?????????

Rambo Dairy and meat are all from the same place an animal, these are contributing factors to High blood pressure.......You can drink all the milk you want till the cows come home but i was wondering what you thought?????? grin2.gif


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Posted 02 June 2006 - 02:44 AM

milk is good with cholate chip cookies


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Posted 02 June 2006 - 02:52 AM

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Dairy and meat are all from the same place an animal


That is a strange piece of logic. Wheat and mud come from the same place, a field. It doesn't mean that they will have the same effect on you body if you eat them both.

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Posted 02 June 2006 - 02:54 AM

pot and poppy seeds come from the same thing too and have very diffrent effects on the body.


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Posted 02 June 2006 - 02:55 AM

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That is a strange piece of logic. Wheat and mud come from the same place, a field. It doesn't mean that they will have the same effect on you body if you eat them both.

Oh???Well fat from animal it seems no matter the source cause clogged arteries that lead to a variant of heart issues one being High blood pressure......

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Posted 02 June 2006 - 03:53 AM

Got any links to back up your claims?

I've been drinking milk all my life, and I'm still living. *pokes self* grin2.gif I do drink fat free stuff (pink cap) cause I like it better.

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Posted 02 June 2006 - 04:27 AM

Is milk really harmful? Can I live healthily without milk?  


Nutritionists hold that milk has two elements -- lactose which is broken down by the body's enzyme, lactase; and casein split by the enzyme, renin. Between the ages of three and four, both these enzymes vanish from our system. Which means that in nature's original prescription, after age four, we should be off milk. However, if we continue on the milky way, the unbroken casein, a coarse substance used in making wood-glues, gums up our delicate membranes with mucus.

Which is why we've not been able to conquer the common cold and are vulnerable to asthma, bronchitis, headaches and subsequently to diabetes, heart problems and cancer.

On the mineral front, , imbibing milk as a calcium source is like licking limestone! Being low in magnesium -- calcium's comrade --

milk grandly deposits the Big C in us and simultaneously hinders our bones from absorbing it! Whereas all foods grown in the ground suck the entire calcium-magnesium matrix from the soil, incorporates it in their infrastructure and...voila! present a mineral-rich meal on our plate!

Bones are as organically alive as muscles and respond to regular exercise. Brisk walking, jogging or bouncing combined with light-weight training alerts them where they seize and absorb the streaming calcium.

The second question is levelled at psychological responses to our emotions and beliefs. The scientific information given above can gradually bring about a shift in perception.

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Posted 02 June 2006 - 04:34 AM

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June,2005 publication in the journal Archives of Pediatrics
& Adolescent Medicine (2005;159:511).

The study of 12,829 American children determined that those
who consumed more than three servings of milk per day were
35 percent more likely to become overweight than those who
drank little or no milk.


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Milk and Parkinson's Disease

The Notmilk letter has previously reported a link between
dairy consumption and Parkinson's Disease, citing these
two scientific links from peer-reviewed journals:

"These results suggest that lactotransferrin may
participate actively in the mechanism of neuronal
degeneration in Parkinson's disease."

Acta Neuropathology, 1996;91(6):566-72.

"According to these findings, disruption in the expression
of these proteins in the brain is probably one of the
important causes of the altered brain iron metabolism in
age-related neurodegenerative diseases, including
Parkinson's Disease..."

Brain Research Review, 1998 Aug;27(3):257-67.

Today's story, published in a Pakistani newspaper,
adds fuel to the hypothesis that dairy consumption
might be the cause of Parkinson's. I wonder why such
studies are rarely published in American newspapers.
Got dairy dollars for milk ad conflicts?
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Drinking Milk May Raise Parkinson's Risk in Men
Friday April 07, 2006 (1340 PST)

ISLAMABAD: Middle-aged men who drink a glass or two of
milk each day may be increasing their risk of developing
Parkinson's disease later in life, new research suggests.

The ingredient or possible contaminant in milk responsible
for this effect is unclear, but the current findings suggest
it's not the calcium. The new findings, which appear in the
medical journal Neurology, support those of an earlier report
linking high consumption of dairy products with an elevated
risk of Parkinson's disease among men, but not women.

The current study involved 7504 men, who were enrolled in
the Honolulu Heart Program between 45 and 68 years of age
and followed for 30 years for the development of Parkinson's
disease.

Dietary intake for all subjects was recorded when the study
began in the late 1960s. A total of 128 participants developed
Parkinson's disease during follow-up, Dr. R. D. Abbott, from
the University of Virginia Health System in Charlottesville,
and colleagues note. The risk of Parkinson's disease increased
as the amount of milk consumed each day rose.

The final statistical analysis showed that heavy milk drinkers
were 2.3-times more likely to develop Parkinson's disease than
non-milk drinkers.  


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At Last...Scientific Proof!

Yesterday (April 1, 2006), we reported the story of
overweight dairy princesses. That was not an April
Fool's Day joke. See:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/2323

The latest dairy industry claim that drinking milk
helps one to lose weight has gone from the absurd
to the preposterous. Milk from each mammal was
uniquely designed for the young of that species
to gain weight, not lose weight. Insitinctively,
all Americans possessing a brain (this does not
apply to employees of FEMA or Pentagon Iraqi war
strategists) know that milk is about growth, not
weight loss. Still...we've been waiting for a bit
of real science to blow the dairy industry's big
fat wet lie out of Lake Eerie.

That not-so-surprising revelation appears in the
March, 2006 issue of the American Journal of
Clinical Nutrition (Vol. 83, No. 3).

Researchers from the Department of Epidemiology and
Population Health, Albert Einstein College of Medicine,
and the Departments of Epidemiology and Nutrition at
Harvard School of Public Health have determined that
the dairy weight loss claim is not supported by real
data. The scientists conclude:

"Our data do not support the hypothesis that an
increase in calcium intake or dairy consumption is
associated with lower long-term weight gain in men."

The actual study abstract:

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/83/3/559  


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Got Crohn's Disease?

If your future includes a diagnosis of Crohn's
Disease, irritable bowel syndrome, or ulcerative
colitis, blame it on your dairy consumption.

There is an epidemic on American dairy farms, and
even 60 Minutes won't touch this story.

Dairy herds are infected with bacteria that
even pasteurization cannot kill. The bacterium
is known as mycobacterium paratuberculosis (MAP).

One hundred percent of people diagnosed with
Crohn's disease test positive for MAP. Cow's
milk and dairy product consumption is the cause.
See:

http://www.notmilk.com/c.html

The March 15, 2006 issue of the Journal of Molecular
Probes reports a study (Clark, et. al.) in which
retail cheese samples were tested for MAP.
Five percent of the 98 samples tested positive.

If you wish not to get the permanent runs, run to
your refrigerator and dump the cheese, milk, and
every other food item that comes out of a cow's
udder. Yes, Virginia. You may eat the udder.


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Attention Deficit, Milk, & Relativity

Albert Einstein is best known for his theory of
Relativity, E =MC2 (Energy = mass times the speed of
light, squared.) Many can recite the formula. Few
can explain it.

Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD) has no such formula, but
should. One out of four American school children are
diagnosed with ADD, and millions are on dangerous
drugs including Ritalin.

So, for today's column, we've developed a formula to
express that disorder of the late 20th and early 21st
centuries which plague kids and takes away their ability
to learn. Our Notmilk formula adds up to a pre-adult's
mid-child crisis.

ADD = M + I + D (Attention Deficit Disorder =
mood swings + irritability + depression)

Eighty percent of cow's milk protein is casein. It has been
documented that casein breaks down in the stomach to produce
a morphine-like substance called casomorphine, an opiate.

As early as 1979, Panksepp, et. al. observed that casomorphin
aggravated the symptoms of autism.(Trends in Neuroscience, 1979, 2)

In 1988, Gillberg, et. al. produced evidence of elevated levels
of endorphin-like substances in the cerebro-spinal fluid of
children with autism. (Aspects of Autism: Biological Research
Gaskell:London, pp. 31-37).

Dr. Kalle Reichelt, University of Oslo, Norway believes that
milk casomorphins cause learning disorders in 25 percent of
children. He writes:

"We therefore by and large treat with a strict diet free of
gluten and milk proteins with reasonably good results.
Note: diet must be strict and long term.

Florida researcher, Robert Cade, M.D., and his colleagues have
identified a milk casomorphin, as the probable cause of
attention deficit disorder and autism. They also found Beta-
casomorphin-7 in high concentrations in the blood and urine
of patients with either schizophrenia or autism.
(AUTISM, 1999, 3)

Search the Internet and you'll find many anecdotal stories from
parents blaming their children's autism on milk and dairy
products.

In May of 1996, Julie Klotter, MD wrote in the Townsend
Medical Letter:

"In reality, cow's milk, especially processed cow's
milk, has been linked to a variety of health problems,
including: mucous production, hemoglobin loss,
childhood diabetes, heart disease, atherosclerosis,
arthritis, kidney stones, mood swings, depression,
irritability, and allergies."

Dr. Klotter was primarily concerned with adult reactions
to milk opiates and milk proteins. Of her eleven symptoms,
take note of numbers eight, nine, and ten. Mood swings,
irritability, and depression. MID = attention deficit.
Cow's milk opiates are not for human kids, and they're
not for human adults. Unless you wish to display GAB
(Goofy Adult Behavior), just say no all dairy products.

Warning: addiction to opiates is not pretty. Neither is
withdrawal. Your child will be angry. Scream. Be moody.
Turn into a monster. Be strong. Milk drinkers are drug
addicts. It is no different for milk chocaholics.
Recognize that all dairy products, even organic ones,
naturally contain powerful morphine-like substances.  


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That Terrifying Milk Hormone

The healthiest organic milk from the most pampered
cow naturally contains powerful steroid and protein
grwoth hormones.

Cows and humans share one of those hormones, insulin-like
growth factor, or IGF-1. This powerful growth hormone
has been identified as a key factor in the growth of every
human breast cancer. Each sip of milk contains this growth
hormone that does not do a woman's body any good.

The February, 2006 issue of the journal Dairy Science
contains a study in which levels of IGF-I were measured
in stored dairy products. Researchers found:

1) In commercial manufacture of whole milk dry powder,
IGF-I concentration was not significantly changed as
a factor of storage.

2) IGF-I content in yogurt decreased significantly during storage.

3) After milk was homogenized, levels of IGF-I become significantly
higher compared with that of un-homogenized milk.

IGF-I facts:

"Human Insulin-like growth factor (IGF-I) and
bovine IGF-I are identical. Both contain 70
amino acids in the identical sequence."

Judith C. Juskevich and C. Greg Guyer.
SCIENCE, vol. 249. August 24, 1990.

"IGF-I is critically involved in the aberrant
growth of human breast cancer cells."

M. Lippman. J. Natl. Inst. Health Res., 1991, 3.

"IGF-I has been identified as a key factor in
breast cancer."

Hankinson. The Lancet, vol. 351. May 9, 1998

"Serum IGF-I levels increased significantly in milk
drinkers, an increase of about 10% above baseline
but was unchanged in the control group."

Robert P. Heaney, Journal of the American Dietetic
Association, vol. 99, no. 10. October 1999  


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The Problem with Protein

Many people refer to milk as liquid meat, for good reason.
Our children are taught in kindergarten that animal
protein consumption is essential for their good health.
Year after year that lie is reinforced with only one
side of the scientific story, and that is criminal.

Why do nations with the highest rates of bone
disease also have the highest milk consumption rates?
The highest rates of osteoporosis are to be found in
Denmark, Holland, Norway, and Sweden.

The Key to Bone Disease

It's not how much calcium you eat. It's how much calcium
you prevent from leaving your bones. Real science has
taught that dietary calcium plays little or no role in
preventing bone loss. Bone density is genetically
determined, and no amount of calcium will you into
a winning race horse or circus elephant (both, very'
powerful vegans).

Why Does Calcium Leave Bones?

There are 28 amino acids in nature. The human body
can manufacture 19 of them. The other nine are
called "essential." We must get them from the foods
we eat.

One of those "essential" aminos is methionine.

One needs methionine for many human metabolic
functions including digestion, detoxification of heavy
metals, and muscle metabolism. However, an excess
of methionine can be toxic.

Methionine = C-5, H-11, NO, S

Methionine is a great source for sulfur. That's the problem.
Rotten egg smells come from the high sulfur content. Imagine
rotten egg smell infusing into every cell of your body.

Eat foods containing too much methionine, and your blood
will become acidic. The sulfur converts to sulfates and weak
forms of sulfuric acid. In order to neutralize the acid, in its
wisdom, the body leaches calcium from bones.

"Dietary protein increases production of acid in the blood
which can be neutralized by calcium mobilized from the
skeleton." {American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, 1995; 61,4}

Animal proteins contain more methionine than plant
proteins. Let's compare cow's milk to soymilk:

Methionine in 100 grams of soymilk: .040 grams
Methionine in 100 grams of whole milk: .083 grams
Methionine in 100 grams of skim milk: .099 grams

Now, let's compare 100 gram portions of tofu to meat:
(All of the meat products are lean and without skin)

Silken soft tofu: .074 grams
Hamburger: .282 grams
Hard boiled egg: .392 grams
Roast ham: .535 grams
Baked codfish: .679 grams
Swiss cheese .784 grams
Roast chicken: .801 grams

In 1988, N.A. Breslau and colleagues identified the relationship
between protein-rich diets and calcium metabolism, noting that
protein caused calcium loss. His work was published in the
Journal of Clinical Endocrinology (1988;66:140-6).

A 1994 study published in the American Journal of Clinical
Nutrition (Remer T, Am J Clin Nutr 1994;59:1356-61) found
that animal proteins cause calcium to be leached from the
bones and excreted in the urine.

Additional Supporting Evidence

"Osteoporosis is caused by a number of things, one
of the most important being too much dietary protein."
{Science 1986;233, 4763}

"Even when eating 1,400 mg of calcium daily, one can lose
up to 4% of his or her bone mass each year while consuming
a high-protein diet." {American Journal of Clinical Nutrition
1979;32,4}

"Increasing one's protein intake by 100% may cause calcium
loss to double." {Journal of Nutrition, 1981; 111, 3}

"The average man in the US eats 175% more protein than the
recommended daily allowance and the average woman eats
144% more." {Surgeon General's Report on Nutrition and
Health, 1988}

"Consumption of dairy products, particularly at age 20 years,
were associated with an increased risk of hip fractures...
metabolism of dietary protein causes increased urinary
excretion of calcium." {American Journal of Epidemiology
1994;139}

Can it get worse? Absolutely.

The Framingham Heart Study is the largest and most
exciting heart study in the history of mankind. Some
of the highlights of this exhaustive 50 year study:

In 1960, Cigarette smoking was found to increase the risk
of heart disease.

In 1970, high blood pressure was found to increase the risk
of stroke.

During the 1980's, high levels of HDL cholesterol were found
to reduce risk of death from heart disease.

In the 1990's, homocysteines were identified as key factors
in heart attack deaths.

Homocysteines are normal breakdown products of
Methionine and are believed to exert a number of
toxic effects in the body.

Dr. Castelli has suggested that an elevated homocysteine
level is a risk factor for heart disease. The first evidence
of this was published in the American Journal of
Cardiology (Glueck, 1995;75:132–6).

Two recent publications resulting from Framingham data
indicate a positive correlation between cardiovascular disease
mortality and blood serum levels of homocysteine.

Bostom AG, et. al, Nonfasting plasma total homocysteine
levels and all-cause and cardiovascular disease mortality in
elderly Framingham men and women. Arch Intern Med
1999; 159:1077-1080.

Bostom A.G., et. al, Nonfasting plasma total homocysteine
levels and stroke incidence in elderly persons: the
Framingham Study. Ann Intern Med 131[5], 352-355, 1999.

Visit your local hospital and ask how many patients
occupy beds as a result of eating too little protein.
The answer will be zero. Then, if only you were able to
investigate each occupant, you would determine that his
or her stroke, heart attack, cancer, diabetes, etc, can
be traced back to a diet containing an overabundance of
dietary animal protein. America is the sickest, wealthiest
place to raise children, and we are doomed to invest
our assets in a ravenous health cars system that devours
dollars while continuously reinforcing pain.  


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Get Sick and Suffer

There is no food in America that routinely contains
animal feces with the exception of milk and dairy
products. As a matter of definition, feces is always
in milk, as it drips down the legs and undersides
of mycobacterium-infected filthy creatures during
the process of harvesting their diseased body fluids
for human "food." That these products are pasteurized
does not detract from the true essence of what consumers
naively put into their mouths and stomachs.

The state of California allows up to 75,000 coliform
bacteria per liter of milk (about one quart). I have no
way of saying this nicely, dear readers. Coliform bacteria
come from the colon, the same place bovine feces come
from. A rose by any other name is still a rose, and
I assure you, if ever there existed in nature the very
opposite of a rose, it is the sh** coming out of a cow's
colon directly into the milk consumer's drink.

Repeat after me. Coliform bacteria in apple juice is
an accident. Rats and mice happen. Coliform bacteria
in broccoli or bean sprouts is always an accident.
Human processors are sometimes disgustingly unsanitary.

The presence of Coliform bacterium in milk and yogurt and
cheese is the rule and not the exception. Got milk? Got
bovine excrement.

According to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC),
each day, 220,000 Americans get sick from
contaminated food and 25 die.

Are you a gambler? Next time you buy a carton
of milk, will you rely upon fate to decide your
family's health? Will the bacterial count in your
cheese or milk be high enough to add you to CDC's
list? Bacteria from the cow's udders are transferred
to that milk. Bacterial counts increase while the milk
sits in your refrigerator. In a week or so, you'll pour
sour milk down the drain. Is your faith strong
enough, or will you get ill?

What day of the week will you drink enough toxins
to cause you to become one of the 80 million
Americans who get food poisoning each year?
Are you a member of the average American family
of four? One of you will be stricken. Why increase
the odds by eating products that have been identified
as harboring dangerous germs?

Cases of contaminated milk and dairy products have
been well documented. Dairy represents forty percent
of what the average American eats. According
to USDA food consumption data, the average
American eats 5 ounces of meat and chicken each
day and 29.2 ounces of milk and dairy.

There have been thousands of recalls of dairy products
that were serious enough to make headline news.
One wonders how many incidents do not get into
the newspapers. Eighty million cases of food borne
illness should send a message to all consumers.
Drink body fluids from diseased animals, and
you too might end up with disease.


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PMS and Dairy Consumption

No doctor or scientist can say with 100% confidence what causes
Pre-menstrual Syndrome, or PMS. All that is known for sure is that
nothing is known for sure. Symptoms of PMS include mood swings,
depression, irritability, anxiety, crying spells, often accompanied
by bouts of acne, diarrhea or constipation, joint pain, and cravings
for such food items as ice cream and cheese. The dairy link to each
of the above PMS-like symptoms has been supported by publications
in peer-reviewed scientific journals. See:

http://www.notmilk.com/milkatoz.html

A Google search will confirm many links to sites that take a position
that the consumption of dairy either causes PMS or worsens the vast
array of symptoms. See:

http://www.naturalnurse.com

I find it remarkable that the dairy industry, lacking evidence, has
now jumped on the PMS bandwagon claiming that dairy consumption is
the
cure.

Surges of estrogen and progesterone at the proper time naturally
regulate a woman's menstrual cycle. Estrogen defines a woman's
essence, just as testosterone define's a man's. In her entire
lifetime, a woman naturally manufactures the equivalent of just
one-half tablespoon of estrogen. Horse estrogen (pregnant mare
urine, or Premarin) is often prescribed for post-menopausal women
to prevent bone loss.

Milk and dairy products naturally contain estrogen and progesterone
and other very powerful female hormones. Cows are often milked
before they give birth, and hormones such as prolactin, PIF,
oxytocin, melatonin, follicle stimulating homorne, lutenizing
hormone and others are consumed by women who are not about to
birth calves.

The natural secretion of such vast and varied amounts of these
hormones would never naturally occur in these women. The
internal secretion of these powerful behavior modifiers could
very well confuse the heck out of end response organs. Got PMS?
Then get rid of milk and dairy, and you'll experience a
magnificent change for the better.

Mood swings, depression, and irritability? I've heard these things
before as they apply to dairy. In May of 1995, Dr. Julie Klotter
wrote the following article in the Townsend Medical Letter:

"In reality, cow's milk, especially processed cow's milk, has
been linked to a variety of health problems, including: mucous
production, hemoglobin loss, childhood diabetes, heart disease,
atherosclerosis, arthritis, kidney stones, mood swings,
depression, irritability, and allergies."

So, regarding your PMS, who is there to believe? The people on
Madison Avenue who bring cute and offensive PMS ads to the world,
making fun of PMS in such a way that makes grown male chauvinists
laugh, while placing those with PMS into deeper depressions, or
is it now time to listen carefully to the Notmilk guy who offers
you the real scientific connections to PMS?

How to start one's day? Place ten sugar pills in front of you.
Label the first: estrogen. The second: progesterone. The third:
prolactin. The fourth: oxytonin. Be sure and take your melatonin,
LH, FSH, IGF-1, GH too. Add about thirty gastrointestinal
peptides, one dozen or so hypothalmic hormones, and you've got
one heck of a hormonal breakfast. Or...have a bowl of
cereal with milk. Same thing. Oh, yes. Please try not to take
the dairy influcence out on your significant other and/or children.
Recognize what it is and eliminate the cause. Find the cure.
Notmilk!


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The Calcium Dairy Lie

The longer a lie is promoted, the more readily it is
received. Dairy lies have continued for generations.

Milk and dairy consumption does not prevent hip fractures.
Scientific studies prove that the opposite is true. If you
seek a recipe for your own future osteoporosis, drink
plenty of milk and become a Wisconsin cheesehead.

A publication in the February, 2003 issue of the American
Journal of Clinical Nutrition (Vol. 77, No. 2, 504-511)
clearly demonstrates that eighteen years of milk consumption
did not prevent hip fractures for post-menopausal women.

How many subjects participated in the study?

A mere 72,337. As part of Walter Willett's Harvard Nurses
Study, investigator Diane Feskanich performed statistical
tests of significance for 18 years of data including dietary
intake of calcium (dairy and supplements) to determine her
findings.

The conclusion reached from this observational analyses, is
that dietary calcium plays little or no role in preventing
bone loss. Drinking milk does not prevent osteoporosis. A
total of 603 hip fractures were analyzed. Scientists
determined that milk consumption was in no way associated
with hip fracture risk. The same conclusion was reached for
total calcium consumption.

The Harvard Nurses study previously determined that there is
no positive association between teenaged milk consumption
and the risk of adult fractures. (American Journal of Public
Health 1997;87). As a matter of fact, just the opposite was
found to be true. Women consuming greater amounts of calcium
from dairy foods suffered significantly increased risks of
hip fractures.

In light of these findings, the dairy industry milk mustache
campaign has been proven to be one enormous deception. Bones
break because women eating the wrong foods create an acid
condition in their own bloodstreams, which must be
neutralized by available calcium. The body achieves balance
by taking calcium out of its own bones. Ergo, people eating
the greatest amount of total animal protein are the ones
experiencing accelerated rates of bone loss. The same
Journal of Clinical Nutrition, (1995; 61, 4) confirmed this
truth:

"Dietary protein increases production of acid in the blood
which can be neutralized by calcium mobilized from the
skeleton."

Eighteen years earlier, as the Harvard Nurses study was just
beginning, the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition
(1979;32,4) reported:

"Even when eating 1,400 mg of calcium daily, one can lose up
to 4% of his or her bone mass each year while consuming a
high-protein diet."

Why do you imagine that these same scientific studies have
not be publicized in magazines or reported on TV news,
or headlined in your local newspaper? Because truth lacks
one critical ingredient. Cash. For a story to be released,
it must often be accompanied by paid dairy industry advertising.
In this deceptively dangerous manner, most of us receive our
biased and compromised health information.

Milk? It does not do the body good.  


this is a start.


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Posted 02 June 2006 - 04:37 AM

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Posted 02 June 2006 - 04:40 AM

looked up the link, scrolled, randomly clicked and had to laugh...

Targeting Blacks With Extreme Prejudice

Blaming problems black people have on milk.  laugh.gif

Milk - facts and fallacies

Milk is an excellent source of vitamins and minerals, particularly calcium. It has long been recognised for its important role in bone health. Nutritionists recommend that milk and other dairy products should be consumed daily as part of a balanced diet. There is some inaccurate information around in the general community about the health benefits of milk. Changing your milk intake on the basis of these fallacies may mean you are unnecessarily restricting this highly nutritious drink.

Milk contains many different nutrients
Milk and milk products contain a good balance of protein, fat and carbohydrate and are a very important source of essential nutrients including:

Calcium
Riboflavin
Phosphorous
Vitamins A, D and B12
Pantothenic acid.
Milk products also contain 'high quality proteins' that are well suited to human needs. Milk proteins increase the value of poorer quality cereal and vegetable proteins in the diet by providing the amino acids these proteins lack.

Milk and health conditions
Australians tend to restrict dairy foods when they try to lose weight, believing them to be fattening. Dairy foods contain saturated fats, which have been associated with increased blood cholesterol levels. However, dairy foods are not a threat to good health if consumed in moderation as part of a nutritious diet. Some research findings include:
Osteoporosis - if milk and milk products are removed from the diet, it can lead to an inadequate intake of calcium. This is of particular concern for women, who have high calcium needs. Calcium deficiency may lead to disorders like osteoporosis (a disease characterised by bone loss).
Colon cancer - recent studies have found that people who regularly eat dairy products have a reduced risk of developing colon cancer.
Blood pressure - research in the US found that a high intake of fruits and vegetables, combined with low fat dairy foods, lowered blood pressure more than fruits and vegetables alone.
Type 2 diabetes - a 10-year study of 3,000 overweight adults found that consuming milk and other milk products instead of refined sugars and carbohydrates may protect overweight young adults from developing type 2 diabetes.
Flavoured milk
A recent US study reported that children who avoid milk tend to be fatter than children who drink milk. This may be because milk is being replaced by high energy drinks such as fruit juice or soft drinks.

As children move into adolescence, the time they need the most calcium, they tend to drink less milk and more sugary soft drinks. As milk is a healthier choice, it is worth encouraging children to drink flavoured milk rather than soft drinks.

Milk and tooth decay
Milk and milk products are thought to protect against tooth decay. Eating cheese and other dairy products:
Reduces oral acidity (which causes decay)
Stimulates saliva flow
Decreases plaque formation
Decreases the incidence of dental caries.
Modified milks explained
There are many types of modified milks on the market, including:
Full cream - full cream milk contains around four per cent fat and is a rich source of vitamins A and D. For children up to the age of two years, full cream milk is recommended.
Reduced fat - expect around half as much fat in reduced fat milk as full cream. Children over the age of two years can drink reduced fat milk.
Skim milk - contains less than one per cent fat. Children older than five years can safely consume skim milk. Both reduced fat and skim milk have vitamin A and D added to replace the naturally occurring vitamins that are reduced when the fat is removed.
Calcium enriched - generally, milks that are enriched with extra calcium are also fat reduced. A 250ml glass of milk contains 420-450mg of calcium.
Unpasteurised - pasteurisation kills bacteria and reduces the amount of some vitamins, such as vitamin C. However, unpasteurised milk is a health hazard because of the dangers of bacterial diseases.
Flavoured - these milks can either be full cream or reduced fat. However, most varieties contain a lot of sugar.
UHT (ultra-high temperature-treated) milk - allows milk to be stored for long periods.
Milk and mucous
Many people in Australia believe that nasal stuffiness is related, in part, to how much milk you drink. However, there is no scientific basis to this theory. Milk doesn't encourage extra mucous production.

Cow's milk versus goat's milk
Some people switch to goat's milk because of perceived sensitivities to cow's milk. If a person has an allergic sensitivity, it is usually due to one or more of the proteins in milk. The proteins in goat's milk are closely related to those in cow's milk so replacing one type of milk with the other usually doesn't make any difference. Milk allergies are more common in very young children and most tend to grow out of them or build up a tolerance to milk.

Lactose intolerance
Lactose is a type of carbohydrate or sugar that naturally occurs in milk from any mammal, including humans. Normally, an enzyme in the small intestine called lactase breaks down lactose so it can be absorbed into the bloodstream. Some people don't produce enough lactase so undigested lactose is broken up by the bacteria in the large intestine causing gas, bloating, pain and diarrhoea. This condition is called 'lactose intolerance'. You can be born lactose intolerant or develop it later in life. If you think you may be lactose intolerant, see your doctor.

Most people can have small amounts of dairy products
Milk and milk products are highly nutritious, so people who suffer from lactose intolerance should not give them up entirely. You can still consume milk in moderate quantities. You can also buy lactose-free milk. Most people can tolerate the amount of lactose in:
Half a cup of milk
Three quarters of a cup of icecream
Three quarters of a cup of yoghurt
Half a cup of white sauce
Three quarters of a cup of unripened cheeses like cottage or ricotta.
Some dairy foods contain less lactose
Some dairy foods contain less lactose than others, and may be better for people who suffer from lactose intolerance. For example:
Fermented milk products including some yoghurts, mature cheeses (like cheddar cheese, fetta and mozzarella) and butter generally pose no tolerance problems.
Heated milk products, such as evaporated milk, seem to be better tolerated than unheated foods because the heating process breaks down some of the lactose.
Foods that contain lactose are better tolerated if eaten with other foods or spread out over the day, rather than being eaten in large amounts at once.

Hidden lactose
Foods that may contain hidden lactose include:
Biscuits and cakes
Processed breakfast cereals
Cheese sauce
Cream soups
Custard
Milk chocolate
Pancakes and pikelets
Scrambled eggs
Quiche
Muesli bars
Some breads
Some margarines (containing milk).
If you are trying to avoid lactose, look for the following ingredients in lists on food labels:
Milk solids
Non-fat milk solids
Whey
Milk sugar.
Soy is also a good alternative
Soy foods are lactose free and a good substitute for milk or milk products if fortified with calcium. Soy milk, custard, yoghurt and cheese are now widely available in Australia.

Other sources of calcium
Although milk is an excellent source of calcium, it isn't the only one. Other good sources include:
Cheese, especially hard cheeses
Yoghurt
Calcium-fortified soy products
Calcium-fortified cereals, orange juice
Fish with edible bones, like canned salmon and sardines
Some nuts (almonds, brazil nuts)
Sesame seeds (tahini)
Dried fruit (figs, apricots)
Dark green leafy vegetables (Asian greens like bok choy).
Daily calcium requirements
To meet the body's daily calcium requirement, it is recommended that you eat three serves of dairy products a day. One serve is equivalent to:
250ml of milk
35g (one matchbox-sized piece) of cheese
200g yoghurt
200g (four small scoops) of icecream.
Milk products that are poor calcium sources include cream, cottage cheese, ricotta cheese and cream cheese.

People who do not eat any dairy products may have difficulty meeting their daily calcium requirements. They will need to pay special attention to other dietary sources of calcium.

Where to get help
Your doctor
Gastroenterologist (your doctor can refer you)
Dietitian.
Things to remember
Milk is an excellent source of calcium and other essential nutrients.
There are many modified milks available.
Lactose intolerance is caused by an inability to digest milk sugars.
Flavoured milks are preferable to soft drinks and fruit drinks, especially for children.
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Another claim I saw on that site is milk is laced with hormones that they are blaming on children reaching puberty early.

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There is no scientific evidence that drinking milk causes early puberty.

The latest hypothesis is that a high fat diet could be the culprit. On the other hand, milk is a very significant source of calcium and should not be eliminated during puberty. Pre-teen girls (9 and up) need 1300 mg of calcium a day since this is the "window of time" during late childhood and adolescence when calcium is deposited in bone.

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Another one of their claims... Lactose Intolerance.

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People with lactose intolerance can enjoy dairy foods, if eaten in small quantities with meals.

People with lactose intolerance have trouble digesting the natural sugar in milk and may experience bloating or stomach discomfort if they drink large quantities of milk. It is important to know that lactose intolerance is not the same thing as a milk allergy, which causes a reaction to the protein in the milk.

The good news is that recent research has shown that most people who are lactose intolerant can actually consume up to 2 cups of milk per day without symptoms if spread out over the day, e.g. one cup at breakfast and one at dinner. The recommended number of servings from the milk/dairy group can also be obtained by eating cheese and yogurt, which are generally better tolerated than milk.

Try some of the following tips to manage your lactose intolerance and learn what works best for you:

Drink milk and eat dairy foods with meals and snacks.
Drink and eat dairy products in smaller, more frequent servings.
Choose dairy foods that are more easily digested. These include whole and chocolate milk, aged or ripened cheeses like cheddar and Swiss, ice cream and ice milk.
Eat yogurt with active cultures. The bacterial cultures breakdown the milk sugar (lactose) in these products. The "good bacteria" found in yogurt also enhances your health.
Look for lactose-reduced products in your dairy case.
Take Lactaid® tablets or drops before consuming dairy products.

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I found this one interesting as well...

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Organic milk is identical in composition to regular milk.

All milk must comply with very stringent safety standards and is among the most highly regulated and safest foods on the shelf. While organic dairy farmers use only organic fertilizers and organic pesticides, and their cows are not given supplemental hormones, the milk itself is identical to the milk produced conventionally. Stringent government standards that include testing all types of milk for antibiotic and pesticide residues ensure that both organic milk and conventional milk are pure, safe and nutritious.

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Again, I've been drinking milk all my life and I'm perfectly fine. I've never even had a broken bone.  wink2.gif

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Posted 02 June 2006 - 04:46 AM

There  is no such thing as 'organic milk"  is the mindset we have, i would not nor have i allowed my child to drink milk, It us finally be posted in the whole foods the dangers of milk...The latest being the chemical percholate it affects the thyroid and for an infant and growing child THAT is dangerous.......also childhood cancers are largely alluded to the consumption of milk and dairy......


IMO the dairy industry are monsters........Your nineteen???ever had a cold?? a runny nose??? a headache??? ever hear of prostate cancer????

It is no secret that milk is not good for you you drink it at your own risk......

Edited by Sheri berri, 02 June 2006 - 04:51 AM.


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Posted 02 June 2006 - 04:53 AM

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There  is no such thing as 'organic milk"  is the mindset we have, i would not nor have i allowed my child to drink milk, It us finally be posted in the whole foods the dangers of milk...The latest being the chemical percholate it affects the thyroid and for an infant and growing child THAT is dangerous.......also childhood cancers are largely alluded to the consumption of milk and dairy......
IMO the dairy industry are monsters........


This is so bad? :

STUDIES OF CHILDREN AND ADOLESCENTS
While the majority of dairy-weight management studies have been conducted with adults, researchers have found that dairy may play a role in promoting a healthy weight or preventing an unhealthy weight gain among children and adolescents. Some studies have shown that a higher intake of dairy foods is associated with a lower percentage of body fat among children and teenagers.

In adolescent Asian and Caucasian girls ages 9-14, total and dairy calcium intake, but not non-dairy calcium, was associated with lower body fat. One milk serving was associated with decreased body fat measured by skinfold thickness while soda intake was associated with greater body weight. Researchers concluded that decreasing soda and increasing dairy consumption among girls, particularly Asians, may help maintain body fat and weight during adolescence. Novotny R, Daida YG, Acharya S, Grove JS, Vogt TM. Dairy intake is associated with lower body fat and soda intake with greater weight in adolescent girls. Journal of Nutrition. 2004; 134(8):1905-1909.


Researchers at Creighton University evaluated the influence of diet on weight gain during 2 years of a study originally designed to investigate the effects of a calcium-rich diet on bone health. Participants were randomly assigned to a calcium-rich diet supplying at least 1,500 mg of calcium per day (primarily from dairy foods) or their usual diet. While the girls on the calcium-rich diet consumed about 150 more calories per day, they did not have greater increases in body weight, BMI or fat mass compared to girls consuming their usual diets at approximately 900 mg of calcium per day. Lappe JM, Rafferty KA, Davies KM, Lypaczewski G. Girls on a high-calcium diet gain weight at the same rate as girls on a normal diet: A pilot study. Journal of the American Dietetic Association. 2004; 104:1361-1367.


Researchers followed 196 non-obese 8-12 year-old girls for 10 years. They found no evidence that dairy food or calcium consumption is associated with changes in BMI or body fat during adolescence. The researchers concluded that there is no scientific basis for teenagers who are concerned about weight gain or body fat levels to exclude the recommended amounts of dairy foods from their diets. Phillips SM, Bandini LG, Cyr H, Cloclough-Douglas S, Naumova E, Must A. Dairy food consumption and body weight and fatness studied longitudinally over the adolescent period. International Journal of Obesity. 2003; 27:1106-13.


A study in Italy evaluated the relationship between milk consumption and body mass in nearly 900 children ages 5-11 years. The researchers found an association between higher milk consumption and lower BMI z-scores, when controlling for sex, age, physical activity, birth weight, parental overweight and education. Barba G, Troiano E, Russo P, Venezia A, Siani A. Inverse association between body mass and frequency of milk consumption in children. British Journal of Nutrition. 2005; 93(1):15-19.


Researchers evaluated dairy intake in relation to changes in body fat in 99 children followed over 12 years from ages 2-3 to 12-13 in the Framingham Children's Study. Children who consumed the fewest dairy servings per day had statistically greater gains in BMI and body fat than those who consumed more dairy from childhood to early adolescence. The researchers concluded that low levels of dairy may be associated with a greater acquisition of body fat during childhood. Moore LL, Singer MR, Bradlee ML, Gao DI, Hood M, Ellison RC. Low intakes of dairy products in early childhood may increase body fat acquisition. Obesity Research 2003; 11(S): 130-OR.


Children who ate more dairy foods and had moderate intake of dietary fat gained less weight and fat than children who ate fewer dairy foods and had low or high intakes of dietary fat. Moore LL, Singer MR, Bradlee ML, Ellison RC. Dietary predictors of excess body fat acquisition during childhood. Circulation 2004; 109(7):5, No. 3.


In a sample of 603 children ages 4-12, those who consumed more ready-to-eat cereal with milk had lower BMIs and were at lower risk for being overweight than children who ate less ready-to eat cereal with milk. Calcium intakes were higher for the high cereal consumers who also had a more appropriate body weight. Furthermore, children who ate more ready-to-eat cereal with milk had better nutrient intake profiles including lower fat and cholesterol intake but greater intake of vitamins A, B-6, thiamin, riboflavin, niacin, folate, calcium, iron, and zinc. Albertson AM, et al. Ready-to-eat cereal consumption: its relationship with BMI and nutrient intake of children aged 4 to 12 years. Journal of the American Dietetic Association. 2003; 103(12):1613-1619.


In children followed from age 2 to 8, a higher dietary calcium intake from calcium-rich foods like milk, cheese and yogurt was associated with a lower percentage of body fat. Skinner JD, Bonds W, Carruth BR, Ziegler P. Longitudinal calcium intake is negatively related to children's body fat indexes. Journal of the American Dietetic Association. 2003; 103(12):1626-1631.


By reviewing diet questionnaires of overweight and normal-weight 10- to 14- year-old students, Hungarian researchers found that the heaviest children had the lowest intake of calcium from dairy foods. Lelovics, Z and Tarnavolgyi, G. Relation between calcium intake and obesity. Presented at the 13th European Congress on Obesity. International Journal of Obesity and Related Metabolic Disorders. 2004; Supplement 1(28): S169. Abstract.


Obese Greek adolescents 11, 13, and 15 years were found to skip breakfast more and eat less fruits and milk than normal weight Greek students. Tsakalou Z, et al. Prevalence of obesity/overweight and eating habits in Greek adolescents. Presented at the 13th European Congress on Obesity. International Journal of Obesity and Related Metabolic Disorders. 2004; Supplement 1(28): S203. Abstract.


A study of 1701 children from 3rd to 7th grade in nine schools in Chile found a significant association between obesity and low intake of dairy products. While intake of energy-dense foods and TV watching time appeared as risk factors, only dairy consumption was associated with a significant inverse association with obesity. Olivares S, Kain J, Lera L, Pizarro F, Vio F, Moro'n C. Nutritional status, food consumption and physical activity among Chilean school children: A descriptive study. European Journal of Clinical Nutrition. 2004. 58:1278-1285.


Researchers followed 12,829 children ages 9 to 14 from the Growing Up Today Study from 1996 to 1999. Using food frequency questionnaires and self-reported height and weight, they found that children who consumed more than 3 servings of milk per day gained significantly more in BMI than those who drank fewer servings. However, when the analysis was adjusted for energy, milk intake had no significant effect on increase in BMI and total energy was found to be the most important predictor of increase in BMI. The authors concluded that milk itself was not responsible for the weight gain in this cohort, but rather added calories. In a previous report of the Growing Up Today Study by the same researchers (Rockett HR, Berkey CS, Field AE, Colditz GA. Cross-sectional measurement of nutrient intake among adolescents in 1996. Preventive Medicine. 2001; 33:27-37), they reported that overweight participants consumed fewer dairy products than non-overweight youths. Berkey CS, Helain RS, Willett WC, Colditz GA. Milk, dairy fat, dietary calcium, and weight gain: A longitudinal study of adolescents. Archives of Adolescent and Pediatric Medicine. 2005; 159:543-550.


For more information about the science supporting dairy and weight management, visit:
www.nationaldairycouncil.org
www.healthyweightwithdairy.com
www.2424milk.com

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THE LOWDOWN ON LACTOSE INTOLERANCE
How Do You Know If You're Lactose Intolerant?

If you have frequent stomach pain, bloating, gas, or diarrhea, it's important to see your doctor. Do not diagnose yourself. Your symptoms could be signs of something more serious than lactose intolerance. Your doctor can recommend a simple test to determine if you are lactose intolerant.

If you have lactose intolerance, your body can't fully digest the amount of lactose (the major sugar found in milk) consumed. Most people who have trouble digesting lactose have low levels of an enzyme called lactase (i.e., lactose maldigesters).

Myths About Lactose Intolerance

Myth: If you are diagnosed with low levels of the enzyme lactase, you should avoid all milk and milk products.
Fact: Many lactose maldigesters (people with low lactase levels) can drink 1 cup of milk a day with a meal - or up to 2 cups; one with breakfast, the other with dinner - without developing symptoms. Others, however, are affected after eating much smaller amounts of lactose. Also, the type of milk or milk product and the conditions under which it is eaten can affect how well you handle lactose. See the "Rules to Live By" section for tips on how to reduce your chance of symptoms.

Myth: You will always get symptoms after eating foods with lactose if your body has low levels of lactase.
Fact: Many people with low lactase levels (i.e., lactose maldigesters) don't even know it. That's because lactose maldigesters can still digest some lactose and will only develop symptoms when they eat more lactose than their enzyme level can handle.

Myth: It is not important for you to consume milk or milk products if you're a lactose maldigester, or have been diagnosed as lactose intolerant (i.e., develop symptoms after a test dose of lactose).
Fact: Giving up milk and milk products is unnecessary, nutritionally unwise, and not recommended. About 73% of the calcium in the American food supply comes from the Milk Group. In fact, it's hard to find a better source of readily available calcium! Plus, milk and milk products provide important nutrients your body needs, including calcium, protein, riboflavin, vitamins A, D (when fortified), and B12, phosphorus, magnesium, and potassium. Research shows that people who get ample amounts of calcium may reduce their risk of osteoporosis (weak bones that easily fracture), hypertension (high blood pressure), and some cancers.

Myth: If your body can't absorb lactose, it also can't absorb the calcium in milk.
Fact: Calcium is absorbed just as well whether or not you can digest lactose. But if you have lactose intolerance (symptoms) and cut back on milk (and therefore calcium), you may be putting yourself at greater risk of osteoporosis. Your health care provider can help you come up with strategies for including calcium-rich milk and milk-products in your diet.

Myth: Lactose is found only in milk and milk products.
Fact: Lactose is found in many foods you probably wouldn't suspect, including bread and other baked goods, processed breakfast cereals, and instant potato soups. A food contains lactose if the ingredient list mentions any of the following words: milk, whey, curds, milk by-products, dry milk solids, or nonfat dry milk powder. Lactose may also be present in small amounts in prescription drugs and over-the-counter medications. Ask your doctor or registered dietician if the medication you are taking contains lactose.

Did You Know?

Most adults need 1,000 mg of calcium a day. You can meet your needs by consuming at least 3 servings from the Milk Group each day.

Many individuals who have trouble digesting lactose can drink at least 1 cup of milk with a meal such as breakfast or dinner without any symptoms.

Six Rules To Live By
Easy Ways To Enjoy Milk And Milk Products If You're Lactose Intolerant

1. Pair the Milk. Drink milk in servings of 1 cup or less along with meals or snacks. If you still get symptoms, try even smaller amounts more often throughout the day.

2. Older is Wiser. Try natural aged or ripened cheeses such as Swiss and cheddar. Not only do these cheeses contain little, if any, lactose, but they are an important source of calcium and other essential nutrients.

3. Get a Little "Culture." Choose yogurts that carry the "live and active cultures" seal. These "friendly" cultures act like lactase since they "break down" the lactose in the digestive tract. If you're having sweet acidophilus milk, cultured buttermilk, or yogurt without active cultures, have small servings with meals or other foods.

4. Chill Out. Small (1/2 cup) servings of ice cream or frozen yogurt can cool you down - usually without causing symptoms.

5. Reduce It. You can buy lactose-reduced and lactose-free milk and milk products in many grocery stores. Feeling adventuresome? You can make your own lactose-reduced milk by treating it with a lactase enzyme available in many pharmacies. Or, take a lactase tablet just before eating a lactose-containing food.

6. Go to the Pros. Call your doctor, registered dietician, or other health care provider for help in finding ways to enjoy milk and milk products if you have difficulty digesting lactose.

On The Lookout For Lactose?

Product  Lactose (grams)
Milk (all types), 1 cup  12-13
Yogurt, 1 cup 12-12
Ice Cream, 1/2 cup 3-3.5
Cottage Cheese, 1/2 cup 2-3
American Cheese, 1 1/2 oz 1.5-3
Swiss Cheese, 1 1/2 oz 1.5-3
Cheddar Cheese, 1 1/2 oz 1.5-3
Process Cheese, 2 oz 4-6
Sardines, 3 oz 0
Salmon w/ Bones (canned), 3 oz 0
Tofu (processed w/ calcium salts), 3 oz 0
Broccoli (cooked), 1/2 cup 0
Collard Greens (cooked), 1/2 cup 0

Source: National Digestive Diseases Information Clearinghouse. Lactose Intolerance, 1994.
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Last time I checked this was about the milk, health or not?, as well. No need to go off topic.

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Posted 02 June 2006 - 05:01 AM

by all means kratos, take the word of the milk boards.  Of course they don't have an agenda now, do they? rolleyes.gif

Lets see, milk is the perfect food for infants (within species).  It is designed to provide everything necessary until the offspring can eat other foods.  It is provides fats for rapid weight gain, it provides opiate-like drugs to stimulate consumption, it provides GROWTH HORMONES (cancerous cells thrive on growth hormones), it contains casien - what glue is made from.  It FAILS to provide calcium in a format that can be absrbed by the body.  It is an acid-forming food.  It actually increases the acidity of the mouth (if you read non-biased research on this).

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