Jump to content




Welcome to Unexplained Mysteries! Please sign in or create an account to start posting and to access a host of extra features.


- - - - -

Vegetarian/vegan cats, dogs, etc..


  • Please log in to reply
36 replies to this topic

#1    Shadowdrake

Shadowdrake

    Alien Embryo

  • Member
  • Pip
  • 18 posts
  • Joined:28 Mar 2006

Posted 08 June 2006 - 07:36 PM

During my time on the internet, I have run into these people who have made the decision to feed their cat, dogs and other carnivorous pets a vegetarian or even vegan diet. So since most similar discussions here are about such diets for humans, I thought a thread like this might be overdue.

I don't personally care too much about people who insist on making their cats or dogs do on such diets, to put it nicely. My own cats get the best food I have been able to find where I live, as well as samples of what I eat myself when it suits them.


What are your thoughts an oppinions on the matter though?


#2    Sherapy

Sherapy

    Sheri loves Sean loves Sheri...

  • Member
  • 21,736 posts
  • Joined:14 Jun 2005
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:At the Beach-- San Pedro, California

  • "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar" (Freud )

Posted 08 June 2006 - 07:43 PM

Only a dog can be a vegetarian, not a cat a cat is naturally carnivorus  grin2.gif




#3    Nxt2Hvn

Nxt2Hvn

    Alien Abducter

  • Member
  • 5,082 posts
  • Joined:31 Oct 2003
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:USA, North Carolina

  • 'For we walk by faith, not by sight.' II Corinthians 5:7

Posted 08 June 2006 - 07:44 PM

Interesting topic... I myself feel my pets pet food that does contain some kind of meat or meat product.

I do however, have a friend who is vegetarian.. and is not vegetarian because of health reasons.. but because he is such an animal lover... so his cats and dogs eat vegetarian pet foods.

I personally have not seen any here in Tennessee.. but I am sure you can purchase it at the big pet stores.. like Pet Smart and such...

He lives in Scotland and says it is very common over there.

I can imagine that it is expensive.... anyone here ever purchased vegetarian pet foods?

I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't, and die to find out there is.

Don't be afraid that your life will end, be afraid that it will never begin. ~anonymous~

#4    crouton

crouton

    Conspiracy Theorist

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 936 posts
  • Joined:06 Oct 2005
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:A Snowy Hut

  • 'This one goes to eleven....'

Posted 08 June 2006 - 11:38 PM

On the show, Animal Cops, on the Animal Planet channel, there was one episode that included a woman (who was, I think, mentally impaired and was not well off financially) who fed her cats a vegetarian diet, consisting, IIRC, of rice and vegetables.  The result was that the cats went blind, because there is some kind of protein in meat that cats can't do without.  And it is irreversible, meaning that even if the cats were to be fed a complete diet now, their eyesight would not return.  While I don't know about dogs, I would imagine they too would suffer if put on a vegetarian diet. Anyway, cats need the meat.   cat.gif

Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image

#5    hyperactive

hyperactive

    abu gaia

  • Member
  • 5,691 posts
  • Joined:21 Mar 2005
  • Gender:Not Selected

Posted 08 June 2006 - 11:47 PM

correct, cats are carnivores and not only need meat as the core of their diet, but thrive on higher protien foods (compared to those cheap filler based petfoods sold in grocery stores).

Dogs on the other hand can live on a meat-free diet.


"He who knows not and knows not he knows not, he is a fool - shun him.
He who knows not and knows he knows not, he is simple - teach him.
He who knows and knows not he knows, he is asleep - awaken him.
He who knows and knows that he knows, he is wise - follow him. "
Arabia


#6    TheOracle

TheOracle

    Psychic Spy

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,031 posts
  • Joined:23 Mar 2003
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Brisbane, Queensland

  • Artistic, quiet, musician Member of the
    Six Worst Men of the Apfelschnaps.

    Ad mortem fidelis.

Posted 09 June 2006 - 12:37 AM

Great stuff !. No you are forcing your dietary choices onto your pets too. Well done, give yourself a pat on the back.

Never play Leap Frog with a Unicorn.

#7    robbieb

robbieb

    Astral Projection

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 687 posts
  • Joined:12 Apr 2006

Posted 09 June 2006 - 01:12 AM

WOW dogs dont need meat....... people look at nature u see a wolf eating a carrot noooooo. a dog is a wolf in fact a dog is a grey wolf infact a dog is a subspecies of grey wolf that has had its ancestory traced to three wolves in the middle east know as the three eves. one of these three female wolves dna in mitochondrial dna can be found in any dog around today. they eat meat there body is desigined to run off protein aswel. combustion is the process animals go threw peopel are set to run using carbs cats and dogs protein people can use protein to run but there is a problem they may in fact start to loose muscle mass if they only have protein becuae the body may start to eat ther muscles. dogs and cats are set to run on protein so if they only get carbs then they are more likely then not going to gain weight. tihnk aobut it people cats and wolves have bene around alot longer thne we have and they have been eating meat and thriving WHY cahnge it thre is not need its foolish.


#8    hyperactive

hyperactive

    abu gaia

  • Member
  • 5,691 posts
  • Joined:21 Mar 2005
  • Gender:Not Selected

Posted 09 June 2006 - 02:01 AM

Quote

Dogs have evolved from carnivorous meat eaters into omnivores capable of digesting both animal and plant nutrients.  They are no longer the same as their close relatives, the wolves, who are strict carnivores living on meat alone. Although they may prefer meat-based foods dogs can survive on vegetable proteins as long as other nutrients are added.  Good nutrition and a balanced diet are essential for your petís health


http://webpages.csus.edu/~sac57551/

yes robbie, dogs do not need meat.  They can, and have been demonstrated to do well, on a meatless diet. thumbsup.gif


"He who knows not and knows not he knows not, he is a fool - shun him.
He who knows not and knows he knows not, he is simple - teach him.
He who knows and knows not he knows, he is asleep - awaken him.
He who knows and knows that he knows, he is wise - follow him. "
Arabia


#9    novaceleste

novaceleste

    Psychic Spy

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,348 posts
  • Joined:08 Mar 2006
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:somewhere in Texas

Posted 09 June 2006 - 02:25 AM

My cats love bananas and broccoli. I have thought about a vegan diet, but think they would probably dis-own me. laugh.gif

Not all who wander are lost.

#10    robbieb

robbieb

    Astral Projection

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 687 posts
  • Joined:12 Apr 2006

Posted 09 June 2006 - 03:19 AM

didnt say it doenst happen just said its not natural i go for a natral aproach.


#11    Sherapy

Sherapy

    Sheri loves Sean loves Sheri...

  • Member
  • 21,736 posts
  • Joined:14 Jun 2005
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:At the Beach-- San Pedro, California

  • "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar" (Freud )

Posted 09 June 2006 - 04:30 AM

Quote


didnt say it doenst happen just said its not natural i go for a natral aproach.

Robbie whats not natural?????




#12    Bone_Collector

Bone_Collector

    -> SkEpToMaNiAc <-

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,334 posts
  • Joined:05 Oct 2004
  • Gender:Male

  • You savvy?

Posted 09 June 2006 - 06:51 AM

Quote


not a cat a cat is naturally carnivorus  grin2.gif

Yes, and so are non-vegans rofl.gif


The woods are lovely, dark and deep, but I have promises to keep and miles to go before I sleep... and miles to go before I sleep ~Robert Frost

#13    robbieb

robbieb

    Astral Projection

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 687 posts
  • Joined:12 Apr 2006

Posted 09 June 2006 - 10:29 AM

Quote


Robbie whats not natural?????



refusing cats and dogs meat.


#14    Megalomania

Megalomania

    Poltergeist

  • Member
  • 2,939 posts
  • Joined:31 Jul 2005
  • Location:NSW, Illawarra

  • *wonders what happens if you cook Mamee Noodles*

Posted 09 June 2006 - 10:42 AM

Taking it to your pets is going too far.

Posted Image

Read my story, Mindless Indulgence
Also read Replaceable

#15    hyperactive

hyperactive

    abu gaia

  • Member
  • 5,691 posts
  • Joined:21 Mar 2005
  • Gender:Not Selected

Posted 09 June 2006 - 04:58 PM

Quote


didnt say it doenst happen just said its not natural i go for a natral aproach.

what is "natural" for dogs robbie?

dogs tend to be scavengers.  So the "take what they can get" approach justifies the poor quality petfoods available?

Do you support the raw foods diets for dogs?

I hope you don't classify the mainstream petfoods as natural.  

Don't forget, the standards for animal food is lower than human food as well.

In the end, perhaps the natural approach is let your dog go scrounge up whatever it can find.  Sounds natural for a scavenger.  If it survives on it, it must be alright, right? wink2.gif


"He who knows not and knows not he knows not, he is a fool - shun him.
He who knows not and knows he knows not, he is simple - teach him.
He who knows and knows not he knows, he is asleep - awaken him.
He who knows and knows that he knows, he is wise - follow him. "
Arabia





0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users