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#31    Raptor

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 05:44 PM

I think that it said the heart had a reaction before the image came up so it could 'prepare itself'.

I'll try and watch it again if it repeats, then I'll be able to understand everything properly.

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 05:52 PM

so you are saying that the brain told the heart the picture was going to come up? then the brain acted first. unless your telling me that the heart somehow "knew" that a pic was going to be shown even though it couldnt see it, and had no warning from the brain? and even if it did try to "prepare itself", for what? how can my heart "prepare" when my brain hasnt told it there is something to prepare for? am i going to have a heart attack if im startled, and have not "prepared" my heart? it just doesnt fit.

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 08:41 PM

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That is just ridiculous.


dr. emoto.

its not so ridiculous.

water is magical. it holds vibrational energy paterns. Who is to say the brain can't translate them. water is affected by emotions. check out the name above he does alot of research concerning water.

maybe water is the the spirit or substance that exists within the material world that our souls can bind to. its something to think about.

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 08:54 PM

i thought about it, and i respect what you think, but i viamently disagree. water is (to me) a fluid that helps cells make ATP, and a medium for transporting chemicals, thats it. maybe water can transport sumthing that can alter emotions, but i dont see water being anyhitng like you say

oh, and water isnt some mystery, its hydrogen and oxygen, simple as that. i dont know what "vibration" you refer to, water must be acted upon to vibrate. (a law of motion)

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 09:37 PM

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dr. emoto.

its not so ridiculous.

water is magical. it holds vibrational energy paterns. Who is to say the brain can't translate them. water is affected by emotions. check out the name above he does alot of research concerning water.

maybe water is the the spirit or substance that exists within the material world that our souls can bind to. its something to think about.


If I remember right, what Dr. Emoto is that emotions could change the formation of ice crystals, and he demonstrated that by having someone listen to music and have them in some way interact with the water, the water is then examined and the shape of the crystals formed is recorded. It seems logical that the only real effect the music had on the water, were the vibrations being sent through the person which could have directly effected the crystal formation.

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so you are saying that the brain told the heart the picture was going to come up? then the brain acted first. unless your telling me that the heart somehow "knew" that a pic was going to be shown even though it couldnt see it, and had no warning from the brain? and even if it did try to "prepare itself", for what? how can my heart "prepare" when my brain hasnt told it there is something to prepare for? am i going to have a heart attack if im startled, and have not "prepared" my heart? it just doesnt fit.


Apart from the obvious fact that the brain was in communication with the rest of the body; I'm talking about a direct response to the images.

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 11:15 PM

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i thought about it, and i respect what you think, but i viamently disagree. water is (to me) a fluid that helps cells make ATP, and a medium for transporting chemicals, thats it. maybe water can transport sumthing that can alter emotions, but i dont see water being anyhitng like you say

oh, and water isnt some mystery, its hydrogen and oxygen, simple as that. i dont know what "vibration" you refer to, water must be acted upon to vibrate. (a law of motion)



its that too. and i think there is further mystery, apart from what already defines water.


Yep. emoto would project emotions, and music, to hundreds of samples of water. Positive emotions and harmonic music would produce organised and astheticly(sp) pleasing ice crystals, while the negatice emotions and sporatic music would produce chaotic ice crystals. Thereby, possibly (if his research is right), proving that non material things such as emotion has effects on something material, water. Nearly everything is composed of water.

But it could be that it isnt just water that is responsive to emotions, its something common in everything that holds these specific energy patterns. Water just was our way of figuring it out. But if it is just water, then every drop that we sponge into our body holds onto the nonmaterial energies  that we experience throughout our life.

If that is so, then the purity of our water isnt just based on its physical contents, but the energy it holds. So water with positive vibes might make you emotionaly or spiritualy healthier... at least until you attach negative energys of your own into it. Then the water could capture those energies/emotions until they pass out your system.

for example. if i farted into the air, and then mysted the air with a spray bottle, the water might collect the stinky methane in an attempt to purify the air.

i dunno. i just think these are relavent rants.

sometimes i like to call water the holy spirit. doesnt make it true though.

intake toxins= dehydrations. smoke= dehydrate. drink = dehydrate. cry dehydrate.

but do you dehydrate when you get angry or excited or anything else emotional?

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 11:31 PM

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Yep. emoto would project emotions, and music, to hundreds of samples of water. Positive emotions and harmonic music would produce organised and astheticly(sp) pleasing ice crystals, while the negatice emotions and sporatic music would produce chaotic ice crystals.


That can be easily explained using science. The music we consider to be harmonic is that produced by light, rhythmic soundwaves (which will only have a small effect), whereas the music which is 'angry' is made up of erratic soundwaves with a high amplitude (which will have a much great effect on the particles).

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 11:32 PM

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Yep. emoto would project emotions, and music, to hundreds of samples of water. Positive emotions and harmonic music would produce organised and astheticly(sp) pleasing ice crystals, while the negatice emotions and sporatic music would produce chaotic ice crystals.


That can be easily explained using science. The music we consider to be harmonic is that produced by light, rhythmic soundwaves (which will only have a small effect), whereas the music which is 'angry' is made up of erratic soundwaves with a high amplitude (which will have a much great effect on the particles).

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Posted 28 June 2006 - 02:40 AM

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actually the heart can regulate itself frog, theres a patch of cells on the heart called the "pacemaker" and that CAN regulate itself, BUT the brain does command the pacemaker when something is wrong, or different.

no.gif Without the brain, the heart cannot survive. It cannot send impulses to itself.


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Posted 28 June 2006 - 02:43 AM

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intake toxins= dehydrations. smoke= dehydrate. drink = dehydrate. cry dehydrate.

That's because cells lyse, and the water is expelled. Learn about Osmosis.

Dr. Emoto is more of a pseudoscientist. When ask to duplicate his project, he can't. He has no credibility.

Water, like A+ said, is just needed to make energy. There is nothing magical about it.

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Posted 28 June 2006 - 03:28 AM

our emotions come from our mind, and our brain triggers are blood rate to go faster when we 'think' or 'feel' love, thus making our heart go faster, which makes our heart seem it but its just our mind, no matter what
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Posted 28 June 2006 - 09:54 AM

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Did you read the holographic universe theory I posted?

Do you totally refute it?

Do you think you fully understand how this reality works beyond any question of doubt?



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Posted 28 June 2006 - 12:12 PM

JC2 what do you think the implications of the heart doing this would be?

Do you think it's possible the key to really understanding emotional and personality disorders could lie in the hearts relationship with the brain?


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Posted 28 June 2006 - 12:48 PM

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I don't see how it relates...


Are you truly that incompetent to either not be able to read the holographic universe post, or understand the relation to this thread that it has?

Oh dear

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Posted 28 June 2006 - 12:49 PM

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