[captain pish]

This path that youre on, does it involve buying lots of useless books? The previous post that talked of the methods of how they make you buy books is very true in your case. The post said that they try to make you feel superior and more intelligent than us lowly "standard" humans that dont have the desire to search for something greater. You my friend, believe that you are superior now you have read this crap. Most normal people dont feel the need to believe in anything greater than ourselves because we know how we were made and where the human race has come from in evolutionary terms. You cannot argue with science.

If you want to believe in a religion that is hundreds of years old then fair enough. But if you want to believe in a man who ows a business selling naff cult books then you need help my friend. I know that i can never sway such fanatics from the mad ramblings of their prophet but you my friend lack the normal human function of common sense. Individuals such as yourself with an easily suggestible mind should be nurtured by their parents to be less gullible as they grow older. For instance you must now know that father christmas is not real, there is no tooth fairy and never buy fake watches off men down the pub (they only work for a couple of days then turn green). Surley you must realise that this man has persuaded you to indulge in his fantastical ravings and purchase from him? You must have at least the brain power to be wary of this type of thing before you read it? You seem like an intelligent person from the way you talk, dont be so naive. Your under his spell admit it.

[shakti_junkie]

Make an argument when you have more information to base it off of. You cannot come to an educated hypothesis without the necessary element of having any data. In placing judgement on something which you have not had any experience with whatsoever let alone a single outline of the teaching you might as well be pointing your finger at a fire hydron saying thats the bad guy.

[coldethyl]

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Coldethyl you were right.
Coldethyl your first instincts were spot on you should be happy with that result!

You know it's funny, I'm all about meditation but I don't need all the other baggage that comes with this path.

[shakti_junkie]

yeah.... baggage, aka false claims from an evidently unstable source and the malign slander of an atheist. What ever happened to dont knock it tell you try it? does anybody else have some uneducated opinions they would like to share? you might as well while the doors are open.

[ghreldion]

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You know it's funny, I'm all about meditation but I don't need all the other baggage that comes with this path.

I think that we all agree that we are here to experience
You say that you like to meditate. May I ask why you meditate, what is your motivation behind it? If you only use it to relax yourself, and it works for you, then I might imagine that you don't want any information on other possibility's or know-how on it. I think that when you are happy with it that you lack the drive for further exploration or know-how. I mean this in a good point of view Which is fully understandable!

I to have this with certain directions, they just don't interest me. And it will not come to me if I don't want to go there. It has to do with your intention.
Personally I do have a drive into this direction. I would like to know more. Experience more.
This drive is not just interest with me, it is pushing me from within and making clear to me that this is the direction that I need to go into. I want to know why I’m being driven, there must be a reason, and I want to discover and experience it.

I can also make lots of fun with my friends. I like going out, I like to mountain bike, I like sex, I like lots of stuff. But when I only do this, I get the feeling that something is missing. This feeling inside of me urging me to experience on some other level beyond the material experiences. I can fully understand that when you don’t have this that you might wonder why other people do these things. It does not make sense to you.

If this feeling is guiding me, then why am I still working with this Higher Balance material?
It must do some good for me, else it had sensed it already and it would have taken me from this path. Now, I know that I’m progressing into this direction. I know that I am making headway with this material. I have discovered ability’s that I did not recognized before. I am growing.

I know that there is a lot of crap on the market. I have bought some books that I also dislike. But hey, it is just information. I am curios, so I buy books. Again, the drive, the curiosity.
In the end they all helped me. I know what it is that I need to walk away from and what I need to embrace.

Higher Balance is good information for me. It feeds me and the more I know, the more I want to know I understand that fanatic feeling shakti_junkie

I also know that a great deal of people are just not interested in this. Are they worse of better? No, absolutely not. We are just different my friend. It is just an experience.

The handbook is free, it helped me, and those things are most welcome

[coldethyl]

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yeah.... baggage, aka false claims from an evidently unstable source and the malign slander of an atheist. What ever happened to dont knock it tell you try it? does anybody else have some uneducated opinions they would like to share? you might as well while the doors are open.

I read all the arguments on these pages and that's what conclusion I've drawn. Call me uneducated if you want I'm not bothered.

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I think that when you are happy with it that you lack the drive for further exploration or know-how.

Really? You think that, huh? You mean if I don't want to do what you do then something MUST be wrong with me? Great outlook. You're not helping your cause.

[shakti_junkie]

nice interpretation's...

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[coldethyl]

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nice interpretation's...

Thanks. That's how it comes across to me. It sounds like you guys are all saying that if you don't want to read this book and do this program then you must not want any knowledge about our existence, etc.

It's off putting to have that thrown at you, let me tell you.

[Pappzy]

Dam right!

[coldethyl]

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Dam right!

Well at least a blinking donkey agrees with me.

[dmurdock36]

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I read all the arguments on these pages and that's what conclusion I've drawn. Call me uneducated if you want I'm not bothered.
Really? You think that, huh? You mean if I don't want to do what you do then something MUST be wrong with me? Great outlook. You're not helping your cause.

I have read your input in a lot of these forums and for the most part I have pretty much agreed with you on most of what you have said, however I think that you may have a little grudge against this poster stemming from earlier comments, it is not like you to completely misinterpret a post, and I think you have this time, I read it and what I got from it was it was ok for you to not be interested in the same things they are, they dont seem to have a problem with that they just put that off to different strokes for different folks I didnt get the impression that they were trying to put you down. Dont get mad at me I just think that you were wrong this time in your interpretation of what they have said. Otherwise I have to agree with you on everything else you said.

[sub_x0ne]

The person who wrote that book must be a hippy or wannabe monk. I didn't get anything out of reading that.

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[coldethyl]

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I think that we all agree that we are here to experience
You say that you like to meditate. May I ask why you meditate, what is your motivation behind it? If you only use it to relax yourself, and it works for you, then I might imagine that you don't want any information on other possibility's or know-how on it. I think that when you are happy with it that you lack the drive for further exploration or know-how. I mean this in a good point of view Which is fully understandable!

To me, the statements in bold are just plain condescending.

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I have read your input in a lot of these forums and for the most part I have pretty much agreed with you on most of what you have said, however I think that you may have a little grudge against this poster stemming from earlier comments, it is not like you to completely misinterpret a post, and I think you have this time, I read it and what I got from it was it was ok for you to not be interested in the same things they are, they dont seem to have a problem with that they just put that off to different strokes for different folks I didnt get the impression that they were trying to put you down. Dont get mad at me I just think that you were wrong this time in your interpretation of what they have said. Otherwise I have to agree with you on everything else you said.

Of course I'm not mad. You have a right to your own opinion just as everyone else does. I will agree with you that at first shakti_junkie was only saying different strokes for different folks and we went on about our way. Then ghreldion came in with his post and I found it very condescending. That's just the way I see it. And it didn't help things when I was called uneducated, but I'm not bothered. As far as a grudge goes, I don't really hold grudges for too long. I just call them like I see them and to me this whole program just isn't something that I am interested in.

But as you say to each his own and far be it from me to try and sway anyone else's opinion. The only reason I posted in here in the first place was just to let people know that they had to use their email to sign up in order to get the 'free' book and warn them of possible spam from that.

Now am I ignorant or have I maybe read the book and find the book infomercial like as well? I am not trying to deter anyone from their own experience, so I will only say what I have already said.

[shakti_junkie]

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To me, the statements in bold are just plain condescending.



Of course I'm not mad. You have a right to your own opinion just as everyone else does. I will agree with you that at first shakti_junkie was only saying different strokes for different folks and we went on about our way. Then ghreldion came in with his post and I found it very condescending. That's just the way I see it. And it didn't help things when I was called uneducated, but I'm not bothered. As far as a grudge goes, I don't really hold grudges for too long. I just call them like I see them and to me this whole program just isn't something that I am interested in.

But as you say to each his own and far be it from me to try and sway anyone else's opinion. The only reason I posted in here in the first place was just to let people know that they had to use their email to sign up in order to get the 'free' book and warn them of possible spam from that.

Now am I ignorant or have I maybe read the book and find the book infomercial like as well? I am not trying to deter anyone from their own experience, so I will only say what I have already said.

You misinterpret my meaning, obviously when I called your opinion uneducated I was relating to the topic, in general I have no idea how much knowledge base you have. as for you 'maybe reading the book, I dont believe you.

[Lord Umbarger]

It's a PDF file. That's reason enough for me to not download it. I hate those files. They should be burned alive with the idiot who dreamed them up.

My philosophy: Never trust any file that you can't "X" out of while it's running. Yes, that means you, Mr. PDF, if that really is your name!