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#16 User is offline   PKofPK 


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Posted 08 July 2006 - 09:40 PM

Can't get enough of conspiracy theory garbage?
Wish you could find it all in one place?
Look no further!
Just go here --

Crank Dot Net
http://www.crank.net/

However, if one isn't easily misguided -- try these sane websites for rational realization:

Debunking 911 Conspiracy Theories - Controlled Demolition Debunking
http://www.geocities.com/debunking911/

911 Myths
http://www.911myths.com/

"Loose Change" Viewer Guide -- crank video debunked
http://www.ccdominoe...hangeGuide.html

Counter-video of "Loose Change 2nd Edition"
http://www.lolloosechange.co.nr/

911 Conspiracy Smasher
http://911conspiracy...r.blogspot.com/

Refuting the 911 conspiracy theories
http://michaelgriffi....com/refute.htm

Truth About "9-11 Truth Movement"
http://www.911getthe...s.blogspot.com/

Planes May Have Almost Toppled World Trade Center Towers On Impact
http://www.scienceda...20710082205.htm

Massive Size Of World Trade Center Towers Their Undoing,
Swarthmore College Physics Professor Says
http://www.swarthmor.../01/towers.html
http://www.scienceda...10919074314.htm

Stanford scientist compares impact of World Trade Center attack to a nuclear bomb explosion: 9/01
http://www.stanford....1/block911.html

Why Did the World Trade Center Collapse? Science, Engineering, and Speculation (From MIT)
http://www.tms.org/p...Eagar-0112.html

MIT Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering - World Trade Center Collapse: Assessing the Events
http://cee.mit.edu/i...21&isa=Category

Fireproofing key to Twin Towers' collapse
http://www.newscient...le.ns?id=dn7236

NOVA Why the Towers Fell | The Collapse: An Engineer's Perspective | PBS
http://www.pbs.org/w.../collapse2.html

WTC Attack Math - From Patrick Di Justo, Astrophysics educator
at the American Museum of Natural History, New York City
http://paulboutin.we....com/2001/09/17

Engineers Explain WTC Collapse
http://www.architect...9/news_3-1.html

Report Ties WTC Collapses to Column Failures
http://enr.construct...ives/040119.asp

IT WAS THE FIRE, CAUSED THE TWIN TOWER COLLAPSE - icivilengineer.com
http://www.icivileng...s/WTC/Fire.html

Popular Mechanics: Debunking The 9/11 Myths - Mar. 2005 Cover Story
http://www.popularme...se/1227842.html

Fahrenheit 2777--9/11 has generated the mother of all conspiracy theories
http://www.sciam.com...a...00&colID=13

When the Twin Towers Fell - Scientific American
http://www.sciam.com...D...r=3&catID=4

WPI Fire Protection Engineering: News
http://www.wpi.edu/A...e/News/wtc.html

Snopes.com-Urban Legends: Collection of links to various rumors on 9/11
http://www.snopes.co...mors/rumors.asp

Hunt the Boeing! (damage to the Pentagon)
http://www.snopes.co...rs/pentagon.htm

"Hunt the Boeing" Answers
http://paulboutin.we....com/2002/03/14

Hunt the Boeing! - Smoke and Mirrors No Substitute for Proof
http://urbanlegends..../blflight77.htm

Aerospaceweb Pentagon & Boeing 757 Engine Investigation
http://www.aerospace...acy/q0265.shtml

Evidence A Boeing 757 Really Did Impact the Pentagon
http://www.abovetops...e_evidence.html

9/11 Denial - Pentagon Eyewitness
http://www.nationalr...bbins040902.asp

Pentagon Eye-Witness Accounts
http://urbanlegends....blflight77w.htm

Pentagon Attack Simulations
http://www.cs.purdue...cmh/simulation/

Pentagon: The There-was-no-757 Crowd Is Making An Ass Out of Itself
http://home.planet.n...ensions_est.htm

WhatDIDN'TReallyHappen
http://mckinneysucks...ks_archive.html

Asking Questions at the Flight 93 Crash Site
http://www.devvy.com..._93_part_1.html

Transcript of Flight 93 Voice Recorder - Yahoo! News
http://news.yahoo.co...93_transcript_3

Conspiracy Theory -- Who brought down Flight 93?
http://web.archive.o...ver_story.shtml

Flight 93 probe caps FBI career
http://www.post-gaze...17bobcraig2.asp

Panoply of the Absurd
http://service.spieg...e/internatio...,265160,00.html

When 9/11 Conspiracy Theories Go Bad
http://www.alternet.org/story/12536/

Put-Paid: allegations of insider trading in advance of 9/11 myth
http://www.snopes.co...ors/putcall.asp

The 4000 missing Israelis at the WTC, Odigo warning, & 5 Dancing Spies lies
http://www.nocturne....00_Israeli.html

AP “Israeli spying” Story an “Urban Myth” According to Justice Department
http://www.camera.or...p;x_article=147

4,000 Jews, 1 Lie - Tracking an Internet hoax.…
http://slate.msn.com/?id=116813

Steve Jones: Academia’s Oliver Stone (and that’s not good)
http://independentso...12/steve-jones/

Steven E. Jones is a dangerous fool.
http://www.lonsberry...story=1789&go=4

Bin Laden admitting to attacks
http://english.aljaz...BC36E87F61F.htm

September 11 Conspiracy Theories - from Rotten.com
http://www.rotten.co...iracy_theories/

Oil conspiracy redux
http://www.spinsanit...s/20020412.html

Penn & Teller 911 Conspiracy BS
http://luckydawgnews...nspiracybs.html

ACL: Conspiracy Theories
http://nord.twu.net/...conspiracy.html

Psychology Today Conspiracy Theories Explained
http://www.psycholog...125-000003.html

Conspiracy theory/conspiracism
http://www.wordiq.co...ry#Conspiracism

Cognitive dissonance and conspiracy theories
http://www.wordiq.co...tive_dissonance

Dynamics of Conspiracism
http://www.publiceye...nspiracism.html

If one IS easily misguided however, simply repeat, scream, and/or drool this litany:
"All the hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of people involved with all the above (and many other) articles, publications, professional organizations, in all the various media, government agencies, military, law enforcement, civil servants, firefighters, airline companies, as well as thousands of eyewitnesses are all "paid off by the evil government".
Don't worry about not being able to back up such a claim with one shred of evidence, because everyone knows a generalized, unsubstantiated, nay-saying dismissal carries more weight over anything any actual expert or eyewitness might have said!
Living in Cloud Kookoo Land is just sooo much nicer than reality!

Bonus crank canard:
Did Roosevelt know in advance about the attack on Pearl Harbor yet say nothing?
http://www.straightd...earlharbor.html


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Posted 09 July 2006 - 03:08 PM

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Posted 09 July 2006 - 04:48 PM

I will believe you if you can tell me how so many people were able to use their cell phones on the airplane. Everyone I ask says its improbable. I dont have a cell phone, so im not an expert. Explain also why the 12 videos of the pentagon strike havent been released. The government didnt take and then forbid the other airliner crash footage, so why the pentagon one? Also explain the multiple explosions people at all the buildings heard. I sifted through the links, but couldnt find the answers, since you present yourself as an authority on the subject you should have the answer.

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Posted 09 July 2006 - 08:32 PM

Theres mention of reports and things on here, americas government im sure has their dirty hand in everything 'official' so theres probably a lot of anti-conspiracy material out there.

Im sure you saw the frames of the pentagon the fbi released not so long ago, did anyone spot the airliner? Didnt think so...

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Posted 10 July 2006 - 12:04 AM

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Theres mention of reports and things on here, americas government im sure has their dirty hand in everything 'official' so theres probably a lot of anti-conspiracy material out there.

Im sure you saw the frames of the pentagon the fbi released not so long ago, did anyone spot the airliner? Didnt think so...


I did.
Are you saying it was a missile?


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Posted 10 July 2006 - 12:59 PM

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Theres mention of reports and things on here, americas government im sure has their dirty hand in everything 'official' so theres probably a lot of anti-conspiracy material out there.

Im sure you saw the frames of the pentagon the fbi released not so long ago, did anyone spot the airliner? Didnt think so...


take a look at this and tell me there was no airliner

http://www.911myths....7_wreckage.html

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Posted 10 July 2006 - 01:55 PM

All i can see are some parts of a small plane, think how big a commerical passenger jet is. Judging by the damage there should be the good part of the fuselage left there. And i was talking about the frames of video footage caught by one of the security cameras that the fbi recently released, where all there is to be seen is a fireball and a blurred black thing, no airliner.

Why is it so hard to even consider that your government may have orchestrated the thing?

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Posted 10 July 2006 - 02:50 PM

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Why is it so hard to even consider that your government may have orchestrated the thing?


Because if you disregard their governments track record for this type of thing (Vietnam, pearl harbour, etc etc) to consider that their government is commiting these types of crimes would imply that not only are the people gullible fools, they have been for decades and probably will be for more to come.

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Posted 10 July 2006 - 03:14 PM

Maybe they are...americas all about the flag, they could pull pretty much anythin n a lot of americans would side with the government or just plain refuse to believe they could do such a thing.

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Posted 10 July 2006 - 05:56 PM

Anyone who thinks 9/11 was carried out only by some Muslim Extremists, need to spend some time researching false flag events.

Anyone who thinks we went to Afganistan and Iraq as a result of 9/11 needs to look into the planned pipe line through afganistan, and the plan by the PNAC to overthrough Saddam even back when Clinton was in office. 9/11 was a blessing to the Bush administration. I see that as a motive. Everyone elses problem is that they don't know what was planned before 9/11, why would you.

If Bin Laden really carried out 9/11 why has the CIA stopped looking for him? Bush doesn't seem to be very interested in finding the person he blamed for the attacks.


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Posted 11 July 2006 - 06:50 AM

Hell, he wasnt even suprised when he heard it had happened.

Any cop should know that when looking for motive, one of the most important questions to ask yourself is "Where is the money?" Money is the root of all evil (*ahem* axis of evil, if you'd prefer). People think these wars are all unrelated. They are not. simple as that.
It was planned and the order was planned.

Look at the billions they allocate for defense, for military operations, for weapons and guns and bombs,
They same people that say there is not enough money to build new homeless shelters or better child care.

The fires werent even out in Iraq before they were getting ready to ship oil. And they say they are delivering freedom. Freedom from what? Life?

But as Bush says :"god told me to do it"
Thats rich from a confirmed active satanist.


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Posted 02 August 2006 - 08:07 PM

The 9/11 documentory Loose Change 2nd Edition is #5 on google video's top 100 list. It most be extremely disturbing to all of the people that still believe that 9/11 was carried out by muslim extremist to know that most americans now think that 9/11 was an inside job.

Anyway here's the link
http://video.google.com/videoranking

You can also watch loose change by going here
http://video.google....593973848835726



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Posted 03 August 2006 - 01:59 AM

I dont understand these non believers.... Why is it so hard to understand that the US Government is lying to you?

There is evidence the US Government has lied before in order to have a pretext to war.

Operation Northwoods, google it do your research, it was written documentation on attacks on US Airplanes etc to blame it on the Cubans to invade them.... US Government Documentation, if they have something like this written down how can you deny they didnt have 9/11 written down?

911myths.com - this site is used alot by the non believers and the Bush supporters like EGGY - dont be fooled by this site.

I’ve read it.

I find the points quite weak, basically saying that witness testimony that mentions explosives cannot be credible because it was either taken slightly out of context, or could possibly be explained by other means.

A site like that is quite stupid in my opinion, its filled with semantics and misinformation. Its main purpose is basically to try to poke holes in a theory, but does a bad job of it.

I get angry at 911myths.com and other similar sites for their lies, and distortions. Clearly anyone who has researched with honesty the inconsistencies with the government account of 9/11 finds that site to be shameful and easily refuted. To the poorly informed, such a site might seem to have validity, but it seems to me a dishonest propaganda piece.

Personally, i think we have agents or people hired by the Government to post as much disinformation as possible on 9/11 in here. yes.gif

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Maybe they are...americas all about the flag, they could pull pretty much anythin n a lot of americans would side with the government or just plain refuse to believe they could do such a thing.


Well, as long as we're making baseless generalizations, all Welsh people enjoy fornicating with sheep.

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Posted 12 September 2007 - 06:43 AM

Arg, I can't stand these CT guys - and it's seems like it's almost always guys in their early 20's for some reason (perhaps because this is the time when you're scared for your future and starting to realize that freedom, no matter how "free" the society, is just an illusion). I can understand being suspicious, but to turn a blind eye to physical evidence in a case as serious as this is almost criminal. Would you want one of these guys on a jury if you were committed of a crime? You might as well consider yourself guilty untill proven innocent! Unless of coarse you can convince them that it's a conspiracy, and in that case evidence doesn't matter anymore because all of the evidence is 'contaminated' and you're home free. That's the true crime of the 9/11 CT's, letting Islamic extremism off the hook in the minds of many Americans, which definitely isn't going to make us any safer.

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