[Qoais]

Abramelin, on 04 November 2009 - 11:07 AM, said:

I know, don't worry, lol.

But Qoais is so impressed by us humans that she is convinced that there must have been some alien interference during our evolution to make us as 'great' as we are today.

I wonder, 'great' compared to what?

We are nothing but the best predators around at this moment.

To what evolution says we WERE of course.

[The Spartan]

humans should feel "great" for themselves in a ironic manner.
We developed into beings with free thought, intelligence to lean, to do things to make to invent to learn about everything around us...

but inherently we are savage animals...

we are the greatest monsters the world has ever known!

[Qoais]

The Spartan, on 05 November 2009 - 09:22 PM, said:

humans should feel "great" for themselves in a ironic manner.
We developed into beings with free thought, intelligence to lean, to do things to make to invent to learn about everything around us...

but inherently we are savage animals...

we are the greatest monsters the world has ever known!

Of course. Because we are savage on purpose. And we use sick excuses to be savage. At least - some of us do. Others try every means possible to avoid being monsters. We are not so far out of the cave in some respects. This I think, is where the power of the mind is necessary to instigate self control. Emotions bring out the savagery in humans. Fear, anger, hate and jealousy. Get your mind around those and control them - everyone - not just westerners, and you won't have so much savagery. Eventually it would all end.

I would have to say - take religion out of the mix as well. If I were the creator of humans, and was about to start the experiment all over again, I would manage it so all the people would care for each other. No matter where you go, you would be treated as if you were god himself, (just in case you were - in disguise!!) In other words, the Golden Rule would be law. I would make it so that if you hit someone, you would feel the same pain the other person was feeling. If you cut someone, you would be cut also. If you duped someone out of his money, you would be broke also. You see, I think that is really the law of the jungle already, and we've tried to rise above it. The herds and the packs and the gaggles and the clutches - all look after each other for the sake of the whole. We're very busy working at how we can put someone through for everything they've got. I guess it's the meanness that makes us monsters. Not everyone is mean though, thank goodness.

Point is, if you knew you were going to have happen to you, what you did to everyone else, you would only do nice things. Then we'd be equal to the animals in our collective consideration of the universal "tribe" and we'd still be better than them in our technological and spiritual development.

[Qoais]

I was thinking about the Piri Ries map and I was thinking about the Vimanas of the ancient Indians of India (flying machines) and how they were described as flying cities - some of them. There were quite a few descriptions actually. I don't think mapping of the Antarctic was done this way, but I could see where this would look like a flying city



Maybe someone had "flying baskets". Edgar Cayce said the Atlantians had them, run on the power from the great crystal.

[Qoais]

It is also my contention that some people had the advantage of living when dinosaurs roamed the earth, and they trained the giant birds as rides. In those vedic texts somewhere, it talks about the giant birds used for families to fly to places. I can't remember which text, but it seems to me there were pictures drawn somewhere of this as well.

[cormac mac airt]

Qoais, on 06 November 2009 - 11:26 PM, said:

It is also my contention that some people had the advantage of living when dinosaurs roamed the earth, and they trained the giant birds as rides. In those vedic texts somewhere, it talks about the giant birds used for families to fly to places. I can't remember which text, but it seems to me there were pictures drawn somewhere of this as well.

How would that have happened as dinosaurs and their kin, the pterosaurs, died out c.65 million years ago. The largest teratorn, Argentavis magnificens lived c.6 million years ago and the earliest member of the genus Homo lived c.2.5 million years ago. Each separated from the other by millions of years with no evidence of an overlap.

cormac

[FurthurBB]

cormac mac airt, on 07 November 2009 - 06:44 AM, said:

How would that have happened as dinosaurs and their kin, the pterosaurs, died out c.65 million years ago. The largest teratorn, Argentavis magnificens lived c.6 million years ago and the earliest member of the genus Homo lived c.2.5 million years ago. Each separated from the other by millions of years with no evidence of an overlap.

cormac

It is my contention that the wonder twins must have been real because someone wouldn't have drawn them and animated them if they were not real.

[cormac mac airt]

FurthurBB, on 07 November 2009 - 12:59 AM, said:

It is my contention that the wonder twins must have been real because someone wouldn't have drawn them and animated them if they were not real.

As a response to my post, that made no sense. You sure you didn't mean to reply to Qoais?

cormac

[FurthurBB]

cormac mac airt, on 07 November 2009 - 07:37 AM, said:

As a response to my post, that made no sense. You sure you didn't mean to reply to Qoais?

cormac

I was just making a joke, I wanted to make it to you, not Qoais.

[cormac mac airt]

FurthurBB, on 07 November 2009 - 02:02 AM, said:

I was just making a joke, I wanted to make it to you, not Qoais.

Okay. As I just got off work an hour and a half ago, I'm exhausted. Been a long day and your joke flew right by. Time to call it a day.

cormac

[greggK]

Qoais, on 06 November 2009 - 11:26 PM, said:

It is also my contention that some people had the advantage of living when dinosaurs roamed the earth, and they trained the giant birds as rides. In those vedic texts somewhere, it talks about the giant birds used for families to fly to places. I can't remember which text, but it seems to me there were pictures drawn somewhere of this as well.

Hmmmmmm.

[Qoais]

I guess it's just not a day for jokes!!

[Abramelin]

greggK, on 08 November 2009 - 01:50 AM, said:

Hmmmmmm.

What?? You doubt what she says??

[Qoais]

Oh for pity's sake. I was sure you guys would catch on after the picture of the hot air balloon.

[turbonium]

Copasetic, on 02 November 2009 - 07:02 AM, said:

Anyway, evolution isn't about creating more "advanced" species. Evolution isn't about trying to create anything, it's simply a reaction to competition and a changing environment.

No, that's adaptation.

Copasetic, on 02 November 2009 - 07:02 AM, said:

I am not using any such argument. Like we have seen in mice and other wild animal species fixation of a translocation that incurs a selective advantage would have very quickly (geologically speaking).

You've posted nice little charts, for hypothetical cases. But without any real examples to back it up, then so what?

In the past 2000 years, how many species have "evolved" into something else? Or even showed signs of "evolving" into something different? Millions of species exist on Earth, so why can't you point out any actual examples of "evolution"?

2000 years go by, and no species has "evolved" into another species. What makes you believe the next 2000 years would be any different? Or the next 20,000 years, or the next 2 million years?

Fossils of an extinct species are simply that - evidence of an extinct species. Just because an extinct species is similar to a living species does not mean it "evolved" into that.