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#1    Astrocreep

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Posted 12 July 2006 - 04:02 AM

I have viewed this video a couple times and have looked for a simple way to debunk it from a skeptics point of view, but I am finding it hard too find a simple solution to disprove it. I myself am becoming a beliver through personal experiences and have looked at these experiences in retrospect to find any evidence that would disprove the event in question.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w86hDdUD03o

If you have any solutions I would like to hear them.



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Posted 12 July 2006 - 04:11 AM

Very nicely done video, I don't immediately see any way it could have been faked. This is literally the most convincing video I've seen yet, but I'm still going to reserve judgment. What magicians do often seems impossible as well, so it's really hard to judge this kind of thing from a video, or even live. It'd be nice if these people got themselves tested under objective, controlled circumstances, because until that is done, it can be very difficult to make accurate decisions regarding their validity.

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Posted 12 July 2006 - 08:10 AM

This has been debunked many times in the past and with good reason. The answers is the application of heat.

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Posted 12 July 2006 - 08:11 AM

Well you can't see what the guy is doing underneathe the table...could be a magnet or somethin

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Posted 12 July 2006 - 10:03 AM

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Well you can't see what the guy is doing underneathe the table...could be a magnet or somethin

How can you move a piece of paper with a magnet?

And this is kinda off topic, but why do people always use their hands when they are  doing telekinesis? If it is done with your mind, pointing your hands/fingers at something would be quite useless.

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Posted 12 July 2006 - 10:58 AM

I have seen that video and have it saved actually to bad i didn't show it earlier on.

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Posted 12 July 2006 - 03:30 PM

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How can you move a piece of paper with a magnet?

And this is kinda off topic, but why do people always use their hands when they are  doing telekinesis? If it is done with your mind, pointing your hands/fingers at something would be quite useless.


its just for a visual for us... its easier to see it moving when you have your hand by it, i dont really know why i just know that it helps.

and bio mage, this video was never debunked, you just gave your opinion on it and the only thing that you could come up with was that heat from your hands would create thermals in the air that would rotate the wheel, but how would you go about moving it in different directions?

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Posted 12 July 2006 - 03:58 PM

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How can you move a piece of paper with a magnet?

And this is kinda off topic, but why do people always use their hands when they are  doing telekinesis? If it is done with your mind, pointing your hands/fingers at something would be quite useless.

its cuz your hands are easy to visualize because theyre the thing you see most of... try seeing energy flowing frome your hands pretty easy considering how hard it is to see it flowing from your knee


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Posted 12 July 2006 - 08:08 PM

that and energy dissapates exponentially the further away an object is from the source, and since most people dont have complete controll of the energy, putting your hands close would maximize the % of energy that reached its intended target (psi-wheel)

that, and heat doesnt affect something that precicely


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Posted 12 July 2006 - 10:54 PM

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that and energy dissapates exponentially the further away an object is from the source, and since most people dont have complete controll of the energy, putting your hands close would maximize the % of energy that reached its intended target (psi-wheel)

that, and heat doesnt affect something that precicely


lol thank you thats what we were trying to tell him in the other topic but he wouldnt listen. thumbsup.gif

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Posted 12 July 2006 - 11:30 PM

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lol thank you thats what we were trying to tell him in the other topic but he wouldnt listen. thumbsup.gif


I highly doubt the heat from a person's hands would heat the air, the jar, then the air inside the jar.

It sounds like skeptics have run out of ways to debunk psi wheels, or at least ones in closed containers.

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Posted 13 July 2006 - 02:03 AM

ima make a videop identical to that exept with boiling cups of water nearby instead of hands, and see if the heat theory for something like this is accurate--how far away would you say the hands were, 4 inches?


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Posted 13 July 2006 - 05:11 AM

That is a very nice video, however I believe that there is something to be said for the old saying "believe nothing that you hear and only half of what you see."

I do not know how that video could have been faked, but that doesn't mean that it couldn't have been faked.


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Posted 13 July 2006 - 08:24 AM

Let me give you all a clue before you rejoice in provinbg the heat theory wrong....

They never use hands to heat the jar...

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Posted 13 July 2006 - 12:53 PM

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Let me give you all a clue before you rejoice in provinbg the heat theory wrong....

They never use hands to heat the jar...


That still doesn't explain the wheel turning in different directions.


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