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Posted 22 September 2006 - 03:43 AM

I have to disagree, Jesus did live and he was a real person..Now did he do all the thing's that the bible said he did, Well we can't really answer that sense none of us where there during that time period...But for the question of him being a real man who lived and walked the earth, Well then yes he did that and he was real...maybe it's you who have been had...... hmm.gif

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Posted 22 September 2006 - 01:40 PM

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I have to disagree, Jesus did live and he was a real person..Now did he do all the thing's that the bible said he did, Well we can't really answer that sense none of us where there during that time period...But for the question of him being a real man who lived and walked the earth, Well then yes he did that and he was real...maybe it's you who have been had...... hmm.gif


i'm with you there isis i believe he existed and had access to medical books of the era only available to ''initiates'' or royalty and he used this knowledge to help people and through word of mouth it was hyped up after a few rounds like fisherman and '' you should have seen it it was this <-------------------------> big lol but yes i think people needed something to believ in and he fitted the bill.
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Posted 22 September 2006 - 02:01 PM

Yeshua ben Yoseph, now called Jesus, was a Nazarene who lived in Alexandria, the capitol of education in the ancient world at that time. He did not have to travel to the east or the west to seek knowledge as the knowledge of the known world was gathered together in Alexandria at that time.


(And I am not wrong about Ninurta. Check various translations of Sumerian texts by different scholars.)

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Posted 22 September 2006 - 03:17 PM

First of all, let's deal with the idea that Jesus Christ never existed. I have read a ton of theories as to why he may not have been who modern Christians believe, but I have yet to read one thing that proves he was totally fabricated.

Actually, here is an article on why he can not be who the Bible claims:

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/7748/106446

But, when you read it, you notice that the argument they use is that he couldn't be the messiah, because other religions already had myths of men doing the same 'miracles' and teachings and ressurection before Jesus ever came around.

Where does it say that Jesus was the first to do these kinds of things??

In my opinion, that doesn't prove he didn't exist...in fact, it makes me think that he very well could have been Annunaki.

Why? Well, look at it this way:

The Annunaki were supposed to have come to this planet, established 'kingdoms' and create man. They are also reported to have lived extremely long lives compared to humans. They performed 'magic' and 'miracles' which most people believe was actually technology that was far advanced from what the humans of the time knew of. They had a vested interest in the outcome of humanity.

Then they disappeared.

Generations later, humanity was evidently not following the Annunaki's plan. We were going straight downhill.

What if the Annunaki, either observing from hiding, or on a passing by some 3600 years after they left, appointed a representative to go and try to point man in the right direction?
This representative, being Annunaki, would most likely be able to perform the same 'miracles' that were performed by the Annunaki from older times.

Why couldn't it be Jesus? The reasons for Jesus being on Earth are similar to the reasons the Annunaki would return to Earth at that time, and the 'miracles' were the same. It seems logical to me to assume they could have been one and the same.



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Posted 22 September 2006 - 11:12 PM

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Unless there were Annunakis in Jerusalem when Jesus was born, I don't think he would be one tongue.gif
Wait, Annunakis are american indians right? If not that would make my statement completely wrong thumbsup.gif


Thank you Daniella for your reply,

I have read debunking theories of Sitchen that were just as creative as the various authors claim Sitchen to be.  I don't put a lot of clout in theories or debunkers unless hard fast factual data can be found.  Since no one really has definitive proof of one way or the other, then no one can say for sure what did happen.  

What Sitchen has offered fiction or otherwise is compelling questions and theories to answer those questions.  This is no different than any leading Egytologist or other archeologists.  Using the likes of such archeologist who defend to the death their own theories to debunk theories of others is flawed.  Especially when any two archeologists have different theories on the same findings.  An eye-opener for the theories of archeology is David Macauley's work of fiction, "Motel of the Mysteries".  This childrens book takes several products of our daily lives and interprets them for some future society.  For example, a TV was interpreted as an alter!

The bottom line is using one person bias to prove another person's bias when there is very little hard fact to help either is disingenuous.  This unfortunately is all I read from people who debunk Sitchen.  

I personally do not buy the history we are fed in the text books.  I also do not believe totally in the theories of the likes of Sitchen or Erik D-V either.  But I do see validity in questioning the mainstream chronology.  I hope that by taking it all in with an open mind, that the true story will reveal itself by the bits and pieces of truth everyone has.  

Some facts:

1) Bible says: according to the "gods" - - "Man was created in our image"

2) There is no direct archeological evidence that links man to ape (i.e. "Missing Link")

3) Apes still exists - relatively unchanged from the very ape we "evolved" from!  Why do we no longer see the dwarfed horses our current horses evolved from?

4) Civilization erupted from crude stone tools to law and order in an instant.

I could go on . . .  It seems there is a big mystery as to the sudden appearance of mankind on the planet.  No one has yet to explain this other than we "evolved", and even this is loosing ground among scientist.

Enki vs. Enlil is one of the earliest of many brother vs. brother myths to exist on this planet.  The early part of the creation story found in Gilgamesh is also a compelling story when considering planetary movement as opposed to warring gods.  A story that explains the development of the solar system we live in.  A story that has echos in Genesis.

In the twelfth Planet, Sitchen stated that Neptune and Uranus would be blue planets based on his interpretations of the ancient texts.  Decades later this proved to be true.

Long before we knew of the cities of Troy, Ur, Eridu ans so on, archeologist found these cities by their interpretations of the Bible and other ancient texts.  

The assumption that these stories are myth - are simply an allegory message from a long ago people is fantastic.  While stripping mankind all of their historical technological skill and knowledge, we gave early man an even higher order of intellect of telling stories in metaphor!  We have proven so many mythical stories to be true.  Why do we still hold the remaining unsolved stories in this realm?  What are we protecting ourself from.

The creation of man lacks a motive.  The stories from the past we do not yet believe offer the motive.  The Adipsu (sp?) (i.e. slave) was created to serve their gods.  If we do not accept that, if the masters do return, we will be once again entrapped in centuries of slavery.


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Posted 22 September 2006 - 11:31 PM

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I have to disagree, Jesus did live and he was a real person..Now did he do all the thing's that the bible said he did, Well we can't really answer that sense none of us where there during that time period...But for the question of him being a real man who lived and walked the earth, Well then yes he did that and he was real...maybe it's you who have been had...... hmm.gif


so your saying jesus was just a gnostic who discovered his divine birth right? and not the incarnation of the true living god into the fleash to serve as a living example for humans?

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Sorry but Jesus never existed!  You've been had!!  http://truthbeknown.com


ive seen you do this alot, you need to open a new thread and make a case yourself. if you can...

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In my opinion, that doesn't prove he didn't exist...in fact, it makes me think that he very well could have been Annunaki.

Why? Well, look at it this way:

The Annunaki were supposed to have come to this planet, established 'kingdoms' and create man. They are also reported to have lived extremely long lives compared to humans. They performed 'magic' and 'miracles' which most people believe was actually technology that was far advanced from what the humans of the time knew of. They had a vested interest in the outcome of humanity.

Then they disappeared.

Generations later, humanity was evidently not following the Annunaki's plan. We were going straight downhill.

What if the Annunaki, either observing from hiding, or on a passing by some 3600 years after they left, appointed a representative to go and try to point man in the right direction?
This representative, being Annunaki, would most likely be able to perform the same 'miracles' that were performed by the Annunaki from older times.

Why couldn't it be Jesus? The reasons for Jesus being on Earth are similar to the reasons the Annunaki would return to Earth at that time, and the 'miracles' were the same. It seems logical to me to assume they could have been one and the same.


why does our creators have to exist within the material realm. I believe that levels of existance (heaven Earth) are vibrational states of energy. Where as Macro: lower vibrations = material world; higher vibrations = heaven.  Micro-material: solid liquid gas plasma etherial, electricity, other material stuff) and Micro-heaven: concepts I cant attempt to define...

so what I am saying is: If Annunaki are our creators, and they speak of a heaven, why does heaven hold material beings like annunaki.

all that is confusing. sorry.

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For example, a TV was interpreted as an alter!


bill hicks(comedian) calls it lucifer's dream box. I guess that would make it marduck's dream box? or enki's dream box.

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Bible:according to the "gods" - - "Man was created in our image

[god, his] but i see the image as not being a physical appearance... i see image as the total of existance, and man being a part of that total existance of god experiencing himself. but there is no clarification on that topic anywhere  that I know of.

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4) Civilization erupted from crude stone tools to law and order in an instant.

this was the birth of agriculture.

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Posted 23 September 2006 - 12:22 AM

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And yes, our three main monotheistic religions have a root in the Summerian religion.


Hey, would someone mind giving me an explanation about this? I'm not questioning, but I haven't heard this before and would like to be informed on the topic.

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Posted 23 September 2006 - 10:18 AM

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Hey, would someone mind giving me an explanation about this? I'm not questioning, but I haven't heard this before and would like to be informed on the topic.


Much of the Book of Genesis derives from earlier Sumerian myths - including the stories of Creation, Eden and the Flood.  These stories in turn are still believed in by adherents to Judaism, Christianity and Islam.  Maybe if they knew the true origins of the stories they might be more sceptical;)

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Posted 23 September 2006 - 10:33 AM

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I have read debunking theories of Sitchen that were just as creative as the various authors claim Sitchen to be.


Creative?  As in Sitchin made it up as he went along, mixing and matching bits of different religions and stories (Sumerian, Akkadian, Babylonian) with liberal abandon, and every Sumerian scholar alive translates those texts completely differently to him wink2.gif

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Some facts:

2) There is no direct archeological evidence that links man to ape (i.e. "Missing Link")


http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20060923/fob1.asp

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3) Apes still exists - relatively unchanged from the very ape we "evolved" from!  Why do we no longer see the dwarfed horses our current horses evolved from?


Modern apes evolved from archaic apes.  Modern humans evolved from archaic apes.  Archaic apes have been extinct for million of years, just as archaic horses have.

The idea that we evolved from modern apes or monkeys is a childish myth perpetuated by Creationists and the ignorant.

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4) Civilization erupted from crude stone tools to law and order in an instant.


If you consider tgousands of years 'an instant'  We evolved from spear and horse and cart to nuclear missiles and spacecraft in a tiny fraction of the time.

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I could go on . . .  It seems there is a big mystery as to the sudden appearance of mankind on the planet.  No one has yet to explain this other than we "evolved", and even this is loosing ground among scientist.


We evolved rather slowly.  And the idea has only 'lost ground' amongst cranks and those  looking to make a fast bob by fleecing the gullible.




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Posted 23 September 2006 - 12:40 PM

Maybe the bible is just an ancient lawbook? I can't imagine people to just go and obey some laws that some wannabe president made up. So what to do, what to do? Ah i know! Write a book about God, insert your laws in there and everybody will obey them! The bible is full of rules. Do that, don't do that, do this and die, do that and be praised. It seems that everytime you do something that is 'bad' you will die!!! die and go to hell!!! Except if you accept Jezus back in your life and then you will be saved. So in other words: if you accept the law, you will be saved. Is it wrong if i say that most laws we obey today are based on what is in the bible?


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Posted 23 September 2006 - 12:59 PM

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Hey, would someone mind giving me an explanation about this? I'm not questioning, but I haven't heard this before and would like to be informed on the topic.


Terah, Sarai, and Abram are all Sumerian names.

In the book of Genesis in the bible it states that they all came from the Sumerian city of Ur.

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Posted 23 September 2006 - 01:07 PM

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I have to disagree, Jesus did live and he was a real person..

Isis......there is very little contemporary evidence for the existence of Jesus.

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Posted 23 September 2006 - 06:00 PM

I thought this thread was about Jesus being or not being an Annunaki, not about if he was a real prson or not.


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Posted 23 September 2006 - 08:42 PM

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Unless there were Annunakis in Jerusalem when Jesus was born, I don't think he would be one tongue.gif
Wait, Annunakis are american indians right? If not that would make my statement completely wrong thumbsup.gif

geek.gif um no the Annunaki were said to be early space visitors have a read of Ezekiel chapter one in the old testament (did i spell that right it dont look right to me) Ezekiel tells a strange story about some wheels and creatures coming out of 4 sided craft that landed and other stuff, these people had the likeness of man and had wings just like the Annunaki depictions in the Cairo Museum said to be the Annunaki..nite nite thumbsup.gif


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Posted 23 September 2006 - 08:45 PM

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I have to disagree, Jesus did live and he was a real person..Now did he do all the thing's that the bible said he did, Well we can't really answer that sense none of us where there during that time period...But for the question of him being a real man who lived and walked the earth, Well then yes he did that and he was real...maybe it's you who have been had...... hmm.gif


wacko.gif ahhh but how do you know he was??  Coz the bible tells us?? Hmmm the bible leaves a lot to be desired when it comes to telling truths as there are many hic ups and books missing from it such as
The Lost Book of Nathan the prophet

1St book of Chronicles Chapter 29, Line29: Now the acts of David the king, first and last, behold, they are written in the book of Samuel the seer, and in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the book of Gad the seer,

The book of Gad the Seer (Gad was the son of Jacob)

1st Book of Chronicles, Chapter 29, Line 29: Now the acts of David the king, first and last, behold, they are written in the book of Samuel the seer, and in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the book of Gad the seer,

The Visions of Iddo The Seer

2nd Book of Chronicles, Chapter 9, Line 29: 29: Now the rest of the acts of Solomon, first and last, are they not written in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the prophecy of Ahijah the Shilonite, and in the visions of Iddo the seer against Jeroboam the son of Nebat?
so I guess we will never really know will we...not by reading just one account  wink2.gif





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