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[jaylemurph]

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If we can do it - send astrounauts to the moon, create clones of ourselves, manipulate this world - its life, its weather...then how can this be an impossoble assumption - that ancient astronauts had the wherewithall to create us?

Occam's razor guides us to 'LIMIT' assumption not discard it totally. Without assumption no unproven theory can exist. And no theory on the source of our existence is proven to date.

Granted, without assumption no unproven theory can exist, if you're using a vaguely scientific model. But when you posit creationism and/or ancient astronauts with foot-long pedigrees developing mankind from hominids you've left the rigours of science for the shimmering lands of pseudo-science, where you could also assume my basset hound Sebastian is the lord and ruler of the universe. I mean, he's never /denied/ it and it explains several trciky things that conventionial science can't.

It's the same reason intelligent design oughtn't ever to be taught side by side with real science: when you stop explaining things with strict logic and fact and start positing what you want to be true, it stops being science.


   --Jaylemurph

[Mesobaite]

Science is over rated. Its only controlled experimentation. Half the things we think we see are illusions anyway. Science is only a tool to understand whats going on its not the wherewithall.

Consider the control within an atom. It has its parts that are so miniscule yet so volatile and complex. Try splitting that weee little thing and then what? BOOOOOMMMM! Science cannot truly explain this phenomena - how something so small can be so powerful.

We just simply dont know much of anything. Therefore for the order we experience to exist it must be propogated by 'others'. Who are they/it?

[Area69]

This is my first reading of Annunaki, so pardon me for putting out what is surely an already expressed theory, but... isn't it more reasonable to say that Annunaki are the same telling in a different language of the Nephilim? It all matches up, winged creatures who came to earth, disappearing (all of the offspring and, presumably, the angels who "fell" were wiped out in The Flood).

How are Annunaki in regards to their age related to The Flood? Did they come before or after? Kind of how you and I and everyone who has a first name would have a different form of our name in different languages, is it possible that Gilgamesh is Noah? Just retold by a different civilization? Remember that just because some written records are older than others, that doesn't mean the story is older, it just means it was written down first.

I'm asking all of this and not stating it in a smarmy way, by the way. Someone fill me in!

[jaylemurph]

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Science is over rated. Its only controlled experimentation. Half the things we think we see are illusions anyway. Science is only a tool to understand whats going on its not the wherewithall.

Consider the control within an atom. It has its parts that are so miniscule yet so volatile and complex. Try splitting that weee little thing and then what? BOOOOOMMMM! Science cannot truly explain this phenomena - how something so small can be so powerful.

We just simply dont know much of anything. Therefore for the order we experience to exist it must be propogated by 'others'. Who are they/it?

Science is not only "controlled experimentation"; it is a whole methodology that consists of a theorization from facts called hypothesis, a testing of that hypothesis through experimentation, analysis of data, and correlation with other findings. Sometimes we aren't able to perform experiments, it's true, but the theories we hold in place of that knowledge must be based in what we can prove. Yes, science is only a tool, but it is the best one we have to understand the world around us.

And the atom? I'm not even a scientist, but I understand in a rudimentary way what happens in nuclear fission and fusion. If you don't, won't or can't the problem lies not with science's explanation, but with you.

As for "the order we experience"? What "order"? If it exists, why does it need to be created and sustained? And if this order exists, why does it work to describe an intelligent creator?

And you're right, we simply don't know much of anything, but if we give in to spurious superstitions and abandon the belief we /can/ learn anything about our origins, we never will know much of anything.


   --Jaylemurph

[Ashley-Star*Child]

You mean a Nephillim, an angelic/human hybrid? Good question, we'll never know.

One book states that he was the angel Gabriel's son. Christian thought suppresses the fact that angels ARE capable of both sex and offspring, as seen in Enoch, and in Genesis (the Sons of God, i.e angels, came in unto the daughters of men and chose wives for themsleves Genesis 6). Jesus himself obviously revered the book of Enoch because his disciples wrote of the events therein and even quoted passages from the book.

Could it be that the real reason the Pharisees were so scared of him is because they thought he was a Nephillim and that Nephillim were meant to be killed, lest God be outraged?

Area69, Gilgamesh isn't Noah, he's a Nephilim who survived the flood searching for immortality because he knew his fate. The departed souls of Nephillim are what is termed 'demons'. Fallen angels are still angels not 'demons'.

Edited by Ashley-Star*Child, 02 February 2007 - 12:04 PM.

[when.i.am.queen.]

This is fascinating, I have never heard the terms Nephillim or Annunaki before...

Sorry, this is a pretty pointless thread, I just wanted to say thanks!

[Ryo Ohki]

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Edited by Ryo Ohki, 02 February 2007 - 07:08 PM.

[jillh10]

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ahhh..well there aint any female angels because..the Annunaki were the angels the bible talked about and only the men annunaki came to earth for a long time..then enki and enlils sister came down to help with the genetic engineering  daa daaaaaa...(ok that left me open for a right booting didnt it)

[louie]

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This is fascinating, I have never heard the terms Nephillim or Annunaki before...

Sorry, this is a pretty pointless thread, I just wanted to say thanks!

LOL, facinating and pointless..... lol...

[itsnotoutthere]

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Someone's been confusing Sitchin's fantasies with the real world again .....  

er....the real world, plleeeeas

[isis-999]

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Someone's been confusing Sitchin's fantasies with the real world again .....  

When will that man ever stop writing trash?.......

[jaylemurph]

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When will that man ever stop writing trash?.......

Just after people stop /buying/ it...

--Jaylemurph

[Staari]

To be very honest with you .... I have pondered the very same thing ....
But I choose not to talk to much of this specific topic ....
History can be nasty!
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[Siara]

This is my first exposure to the Annunaki tradition. I googled it and got thousands of hits.

If Nibiru, or Planet X, were going to approach our solar system in 2012, wouldn't we be able to see it by now?

[jaylemurph]

You'd think, wouldn't you?

--Jaylemurph