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I keep coming across claims and reports of artifacts with cuniform, Hieroglyphs etc being found In America.

This link has a large compilation of pictures:

http://www.ancientmanuscripts.com/research_links2.htm

I remember once reading somewhere that the Pyramid caps stone, was of an exact composition that has only been found in a quary in north America. anyone have any info on that study?

Also, I used to have a link to a site that had a B&W picture of a strange looking mechanical device found in the US desert, the caption with the image said the military re-buried them, they are large Metal (about 20-30) tall gear looking thingies, captions also mentioned that these "artifacts" had un-identified writting on them, there was a picture of that also, i did some research and it looked like pre-modern Arabic/pheonician mix. anyone have further info on this or Image, I lost my links/pictures when my hard drive went belly up.

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Im pretty sure i read somewhere on here before that they found evidence of coca use by the egyptians. You could probly google it and find info, but if they were in south america getting coca then they probly could've been in north america too.

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there is also a story of hyglphs and egyptian treasure been found in the grand canyon in caves an its being hushed by the government and the smithsonian. google it youll find the story.

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there is also a story of hyglphs and egyptian treasure been found in the grand canyon in caves an its being hushed by the government and the smithsonian. google it youll find the story.

The problem with this yarn is that the ONLY evidence for it is an article in an early 20th Century Arizona newspaper. This was a time when newspapers regularly made up "whoppers" of this sort to fill empty space. They weren't even "hoaxes," per se, since nobody was expected to take them seriously.

Neither one of the two putative archaeologists supposedly interviewerd for the newspaper account seem to have actually existed.

And there's no way that the Smithsonian could have "erased" all evidence of these fellows' existence, had they actually been real, ESPECIALLY in pre-Internet days.

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http://www.ensignmessage.com/archives/stonesecrets.html

From ancient inscriptions, newly deciphered, comes startling evidence that Europeans had settled in America as early as 800 B.C.

THOUGH most people believe that American history began with Christopher Columbus, historians have lately discovered hard evidence that Leif Ericson and his fellow Norsemen were exploring Canada and the northern tier of the United States as early as A.D. 1000. But before that date, the history of the New World north of the Rio Grande has been a virtual vacuum, inhabited by a few Indian legends. Now, thanks to the genius of a single man from another hemisphere, all this is about to undergo a vast change. In his recently published book, America B.C., * New Zealand-bred Barry Fell, a marine biologist at Harvard University, offers astonishing evidence that there were men and women from Europe not merely exploring but living

in North America as early as 800 B.C.

On Monhegan Island, ten miles off the coast of Maine, another inscription was brought to Fell’s attention. Written in Celtic Ogam, it read “Cargo platforms for ships from Phoenicia.” From these and other inscriptions, as well as an intensive study of historical data on the seafaring ability of the men of Tarshish and Carthage, Fell concluded there was a highly developed trade route between America and the Mediterranean for at least 400 years before the birth of Christ. The chief products from North America were probably copper, furs and hides.

“American data,” as Fell calls it, now began to multiply. Most important was his decipherment of the Davenport stele, which some people compare to the translation of the Rosetta stone-the nineteenth century breakthrough which enabled men to read hieroglyphics and grasp the awesome sweep of Egyptian history. On this inscription, which was found in a burial mound near Davenport, Iowa, in 1874, Fell was able to read three kinds of writing. At the top were Egyptian hieroglyphics, Below them was the Iberic form of Punic writing found in Spain. The third line was in Libyan script.

What does this mean? “It means there were Egyptians, Libyans and Celtic Iberians living together in a colony in Iowa in 800 B.C.,” Fell says. “It means we have to revise a lot of our ideas about American history in general and American Indian culture in particular.”

Fell next turned his attention to native Indian languages. He reasoned that if these pre-Christian visitors colonized parts of America, they must have left behind a deep impression on the language and beliefs of the people they encountered. He soon found evidence to support this conclusion.

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From Harvard, one of Fell’s colleagues brought him a book by a missionary priest, published in 1866. It contained a document entitled “The Lord’s Prayer in CO Micmac Hieroglyphics.” Fell saw that at least half of these hieroglyphics were Egyptian. He was able to prove from the written testimony of other priests that the Micmacs were using this writing when the first missionaries arrived. In fact, all the north-eastern Algonquians, the family of tribes to which the Micmacs belonged, apparently used it, having acquired this language from Libyan mariners and preserved it for 1,000 years.

As Fell began studying the Algonquian language, he found hundreds of Egyptian words in the dialects of the north-eastern Agonquians. The verb na, to see, is the same in both languages. So is nauw, which means to he weak, and neechnw, which means child. Celtic is also plentiful. The names of many New England rivers, once thought to be Indian, turn out to be Celtic. Merrimack, for instance, means “deep fishing” in Algonquian. It is too close for coincidence to the Gaelic Mor-riomach,

meaning “of great depth.”

In the next few years, Fell expects archaeologists and interested amateur explorers to report new discoveries and inscriptions from all parts of North America. These findings may help to explain exactly what happened to the continent's earliest settlers after the destruction of Carthage in 146 B.C.and the fall of Rome in the fifth century A.D.

No longer can we think of America as developing in cultural isolation. For the first time, fighting Celts from Spain and daring Semitic seafarers from Carthage, Libya and Egypt must be included in America’s heritage. Who knows how many others will be added before the end of Barry Fell’s epic voyage into the past?

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There are oral traditions and documentary evidence which support the early migration of the Mande people to Mexico, called the Olmecs by the Amerindians. The Olmecs probably called themselves Xi or Shi people.

Friar Diego de Landa, in "Yucatan before and After the Conquest", wrote that "some old men of Yucatan say that they heard from their ancestors that this country was peopled by a certain race who came from the East, whom God delivered by opening for them twelve roads through the sea".

This oral tradition of the Maya is supported by Stela 5, of Izapa. In Stela No. 5, we view a group of men on a boat riding the waves of an Ocean.At the right hand side of the boat we see a personage under a ceremonial umbrella. This umbrella was a symbol of princely status. Above his head is a jaguar glyph which according to Dr. Alexander von Wuthenau indicates that he was an Olmec. This personage has an African hairdo and a writing stylus in his left hand. This Olmec scribe proves that the Olmec had writing which was deciphered by Clyde Ahmad Winters in 1978.(Winters 1979;Wuthenau 1981)

In the center of the boat we find a large tree. This tree has seven branches and twelve roots. The seven branches probably indicates the seven major clans that form ed the Olmec nation. The twelve roots of the tree which extend into the waves of the ocean from the boat, probably signifies the "twelve roads through the sea" mentioned by Friar Diego de Landa.

Stela No.5, also illustrates the two principal Olmec cults. On the right hand side of the stela, we see the Jaguar Prince instructing a youth in the mysteries of the Jaguar cult. On the left hand side we see a number of birds.Here we also find a priest wearing a conical hat,also instructing a youth in the mysteries of the bird cult. It is clear that Stela No.5 from Izapa not only indicates the tree of life, it speaks to the origin of the Olmec from a nation across the sea. And that the Olmec people came to the New World during twelve migrations, as recorded by Friar de Landa.

In the Popol Vuh, the famous Mayan historian Ixtlixochtl, the Olmecs came to Mexico in "ships of barks"( probably a reference to papyrus boats or dug-out canoes used by the Proto-Saharans) and landed in Potonchan,which they commenced to populate.Mexican traditions claim that these migrates from the east were led by Amoxaque or Bookmen. The term Amoxaque, is similar to the Manding 'a ma n'kye':"he (is) a teacher". These Blacks are frequently seen in Mayan writings as gods or merchants.

The Decipherment of the Olmec Writing

It is generally accepted that the decipherment of an unknown language/script requires 1) bilingual texts and/or 2) knowledge of the cognate language(s). It has long been felt by many Meso-Americanist that the Olmec writing met non of these criteria because, no one knew exactly what language was spoken by the Olmec that appear suddenly at San Lorenzo and La Venta in Veracruz, around 1200 B.C.

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http://www.wfu.edu/~cyclone/tifiii.htm

APRIL 1982, Speliologist (subsequently Col. and Gen.) Russell Burrows of Olney, Ill. traumatically discovered the cave off Skillet Fork (a branch of the Little Wabash, which branches from the Ohio) after sensing the ground underfoot hollow. The owner of that area c.1840 had found a gold breastplate in a surface cave, but Burrows Cave, indetectible on the valley floor, showed no trace of modern disturbance. The 250-lb. boulder-lid that covered the entrance-shaft was designed to flip and reclose, but Burrows happened to displace it slightly as he ground his foot while turning. Elbow reflex slowed his drop to a stone-walled entrance. The underside of the foiled lid-stone bore a Gobi/Baktrian two-hump camel in a strange inscription. Many days' heavy labor dislodged the wall keystone, linch-pinned from inside. Crawling 165+ yards over inscribed-stone-studded deep silt beneath a soot-blackened ceiling failed to locate an exit. Burrows could stand upright only in the three crypts he opened.

Thirteen of these water-tight (thus air-tight) masonry crypts lined either side of the stream that hollowed the cavity, amidst Egyptian-hieroglyphic reliefs and standing statues--one foot forward Egyptian-style; funerary jars; urns containing scrolls; abundant gold; repeated images of Anubis, the Egyptian cemetery-guard and Underworld gateman; recurrent ankh and other hieroglyphics; numerous lion representations such as Ptolemies favored, atypical of bull/hawk previous pharoahs. Prof. Warren Cook, of Castleton College, Vt. named Burrows Cave.

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There are oral traditions and documentary evidence which support the early migration of the Mande people to Mexico, called the Olmecs by the Amerindians. The Olmecs probably called themselves Xi or Shi people.

Friar Diego de Landa, in "Yucatan before and After the Conquest", wrote that "some old men of Yucatan say that they heard from their ancestors that this country was peopled by a certain race who came from the East, whom God delivered by opening for them twelve roads through the sea".

An interesting idea, however genetic studies of native peoples indicates that this is pure fantasy.

APRIL 1982, Speliologist (subsequently Col. and Gen.) Russell Burrows of Olney, Ill. traumatically discovered the cave off Skillet Fork (a branch of the Little Wabash, which branches from the Ohio) after sensing the ground underfoot hollow. The owner of that area c.1840 had found a gold breastplate in a surface cave, but Burrows Cave, indetectible on the valley floor, showed no trace of modern disturbance. The 250-lb. boulder-lid that covered the entrance-shaft was designed to flip and reclose, but Burrows happened to displace it slightly as he ground his foot while turning. Elbow reflex slowed his drop to a stone-walled entrance. The underside of the foiled lid-stone bore a Gobi/Baktrian two-hump camel in a strange inscription. Many days' heavy labor dislodged the wall keystone, linch-pinned from inside. Crawling 165+ yards over inscribed-stone-studded deep silt beneath a soot-blackened ceiling failed to locate an exit. Burrows could stand upright only in the three crypts he opened.

Thirteen of these water-tight (thus air-tight) masonry crypts lined either side of the stream that hollowed the cavity, amidst Egyptian-hieroglyphic reliefs and standing statues--one foot forward Egyptian-style; funerary jars; urns containing scrolls; abundant gold; repeated images of Anubis, the Egyptian cemetery-guard and Underworld gateman; recurrent ankh and other hieroglyphics; numerous lion representations such as Ptolemies favored, atypical of bull/hawk previous pharoahs. Prof. Warren Cook, of Castleton College, Vt. named Burrows Cave.

To learn why the "Burrows Cave" is nothing but a load of hogwash, I suggest first a deep breath and then a visit to Doug's Archaeology Site, where documentation on this and many other so-called "mysteries" can be found, including utter refutation of the claims made by Barry Fell concerning Ogham script supposedly found in the Americas.

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An interesting idea, however genetic studies of native peoples indicates that this is pure fantasy.

To learn why the "Burrows Cave" is nothing but a load of hogwash, I suggest first a deep breath and then a visit to Doug's Archaeology Site, where documentation on this and many other so-called "mysteries" can be found, including utter refutation of the claims made by Barry Fell concerning Ogham script supposedly found in the Americas.

Harte

http://www.equinox-project.com/drfell.htm

Every once in great while mankind is blessed with genius. Barry Fell was one of these. Sadly, his revelations are not well liked by the establishment. Even the Epigraphic Society, which he founded, has turned their backs to him and his works. Indeed, they do their best to erase him from memory and with a collective vow of silence, refuse to acknkowledge his genius. The discoveries made at Inyo are the direct result of his readings. We understand the implications of these discoveries and struggle to overcome the prejudice taught as a matter of course by academic institutions.

The causes for such rejection are many, prejudice is at the top of the list. Linguists reject his work for reasons of argued inaccuracy. However, an old addage of linguists is that every linguist may translate the same inscription with different results. Dr. Fell worked on inscriptions that no other linguist could (or would) translate. He had a working encyclopedic knowledge, of many ancient languages. Far beyond the so-called experts who restrict their work to a single script or language. His skills were without peer.

Archaeologists, anthropologists and ethnographers work hand in hand with historians. Their job is to present information that protects and preserves political history. As a unified group these folks soundly condemn the work of Dr. Fell. They do so without basis in fact and a vengence undeserved. (See Dr. Norman Totten's response here.) His revelation that the Celtic, Arabic and other People visited, emigrated and traded with Native Americans is simple truth. History hides these facts from the general population. They would rather keep the idea that the Native Americans were illiterate savages, incapable of civilized behavior. Nothing could be farther from reality. Dr. Fell examined the rock carved evidence and simply reported the facts that demonstrate the facts as ther are. We at The Equinox Project have a great respect for the truth.

Rock cut inscriptions are studied by academics under the category of "Rock Art." The early European colonists noticed them, but being a poorly educated lot, they had no idea as to their meanings and could not relate to the answers given by the Native Americans to whom they made inquiry. For several hundred years, this lack of insight was the standard for study. Then came Dr. H. B. "Barry" Fell, a Harvard scholar with an avocation for ancient writings. To his credit he solved the riddle of the Phaistos disk, determined that the Etruscan language was related to and decipherable by using Hittite and found the secrets in the Rongo-rongo tablets of Rapa Nui (Easter Island). He was this centuries greatest linguist.

Far from being a newcomer to the field of linguistics and rock art, Dr. Fell published his first paper on petroglyphs in 1940. His linguistic research began with a search for the roots of the Polynesian language and dialects. As an oceanographer, this was a logical curiosity. Who could have predicted that this would eventually result in the resolution of the mystery of the Rongo rongo texts of Rapa Nui?

Dr. Fell addressed the standing and dry stone constructed ruins found through out the New England states. It is here that a firestorm of vehement irrational protest swept through the ranks of professional archaeologists. Flamed by ridicule published in the professional journals, this campaign persists to this day. Dr. Fell was denied, as a matter of policy, from replying to the articles. Yet, an unbiased look at the evidence proves him correct. It is a sad state of affairs at best. For an eloquent reply to these unfounded and malicious accusations see Dr. Norman Totten's reply as published in The Epigraphic Society Occasional Papers (ESOP). Few libraries have copies of this treasured series. Guided by Dr. Fell, ESOP was the vehicle for publication of epigraphic and diffusion related articles. Alas, the presentation of this philosophy died with the professor.

http://www.equinox-project.com/esop81.htm

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Sir, there are so many examples of renegade Egyptians roaming the earth,....s. America etc, that if I had a peso for each I would be muy rico.

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Sir, there are so many examples of renegade Egyptians roaming the earth,....s. America etc, that if I had a peso for each I would be muy rico.

It seems that Egyption culture...style.. fashion...have been popular thru out the ages.. hense evidence scattered all over the world ... we ourselves have collected magazines and the free Egyptian 'relics' that come with them... shops are full of Egyptian inspired artifacts...

:D Imagine a 1000 years from now archeologists amature and legit... will argue over their findings of 20th century remains... The Museums and wealthy homes..( hopefully ) would house the real thing and the majority of the other excavated homes would unearth obvious copies..... would that mean actual Egyptian influence.. ?? or great souvenirs from travellers.. collecters.... scholars....or imports from the merchants of the time...

LOL ...I wonder what they'll say about all the relics of golden arches (McDonalds) found all over the world??? and the Coke bottles???

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Harte: what do you think of that town in the middle of the jungles of Peru consisting of people with blond hair and blue eyes, who speak an ancient mayan language, and claim their ancestors were vikings?

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Harte: what do you think of that town in the middle of the jungles of Peru consisting of people with blond hair and blue eyes, who speak an ancient mayan language, and claim their ancestors were vikings?

Heard of it, but never seen any actual evidence of the truth of the situation. Blonde people in S. America can be descendants of Spaniards, after all. Plenty of Spaniards are blondes with blue eyes, though many people don't realize it.

At any rate, according to the folks above, these people must be wrong. They are obviously blonde-haired blue-eyed Egyptians.

Regarding the "ancient Mayan language," there's no such thing. Mayan is Mayan, and many Mesoamerican natives still speak it. Nothing unusual there.

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Heard of it, but never seen any actual evidence of the truth of the situation. Blonde people in S. America can be descendants of Spaniards, after all. Plenty of Spaniards are blondes with blue eyes, though many people don't realize it.

At any rate, according to the folks above, these people must be wrong. They are obviously blonde-haired blue-eyed Egyptians.

Regarding the "ancient Mayan language," there's no such thing. Mayan is Mayan, and many Mesoamerican natives still speak it. Nothing unusual there.

Harte

http://www.pc.gc.ca/docs/rspm-whsr/rapports-reports/r6_e.asp

2 STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE

2a Original justification for inscription

The original nomination stated:

"As the only authenticated site of Norse settlement known in North America, the site is unique. As the earliest manifestation of European impact on the New World the site ranks

among the major archaeological properties of the world."

http://www.strangehorizons.com/2001/20010827/vikings.shtml

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http://www.pc.gc.ca/docs/rspm-whsr/rapports-reports/r6_e.asp

2 STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE

2a Original justification for inscription

The original nomination stated:

"As the only authenticated site of Norse settlement known in North America, the site is unique. As the earliest manifestation of European impact on the New World the site ranks

among the major archaeological properties of the world."

http://www.strangehorizons.com/2001/20010827/vikings.shtml

Crystal Sage,

I believe many people here at U.M. are aware of the Norse settlements found (and speculated on) in Canada. But what has this to do with Peru? Furthermore, why do you quote from that website which concerns the well-known site at L'Anse aux Meadows, Canada without even mentioning the fact that you are referring to an entirely different continent? I hope you weren't trying to imply that there is some evidence of Viking settlement of portions of South America through the fraudulent use of the L'Anse aux Meadows information.

Your second link contains much the same information:

In 1960 a group of Norwegian archaeologists discovered the remains of eight long houses on the Canadian island of L'anse aux Meadows. They were proven to be of Nordic design. Other typical Viking objects were also found, such as pins, stone lamps, and some carved wooden pieces believed to be ship fittings.

Further excavations -- from 1973 to 1976 -- uncovered even more utensils and about 2000 pieces of worked wood. It was mostly debris from smoothing and trimming logs, as the Vikings prepared wood to be taken back to Greenland. The Canadian Government reconstructed three of the Viking buildings, and the locale was declared a UNESCO World Heritage Site in 1978.

Again, what has this to do with Peru? Do you suggest that the Vikings walked from Canada to Peru? Did they sail to Peru from the North Atlantic? How, without leaving a trace behind? They couldn't even get to Canada without first spending a generation or two on Greenland.

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There has been discovered a village somewhere in Peru where the people are blonde, have blue eyes, and look like scandinavians. Local rumors have it they descend from Vikings. They speak an ancient mayan language and not spanish, so they have been there a while. Some researcher claimed he found evidence of this language being related to ancient norse language. A norwegian explorer named Johnny Haglund found this place and documented it in one of his books. Unfortunately I dont know much more about this place as its very hard to find any information online, at least I have been unsuccsessful when trying. It is called "The valley of the white", or De Hvites Dal, as he calls it in Norwegian. I am very interested in finding out more about this place and what kind of research has been carried out on the people there. I read something about DNA tests, but I cant remember what the results were. I will get back with more info on it if I am able to figure out more.

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(A)Runes on the 'coiffure' of a statue from San Augustin, Columbia. (B) Runes found on a Nazca urn, Peru, followed by their 'normalization'.

The American archeological establishment admits that the Vikings made it as far as Greenland and probably had a settlement in northeastern Canada at L'Anse aux Meadows; but the Kensington Stone, the Newport Tower, Oklahoma runes, etc., and other evidence of further penetration into the New World are viewed with approbation, even contempt. Nevertheless, the latest number of the Belgian journal Kadath is devoted entirely to Viking (hyperboreene) contacts in South America! Now that's a far piece from Greenland.

This long article (40 pages) is replete with photographs, interpretations, and translations of runic inscriptions found in Argentina, Brazil, and Paraguay. It is impossible to do justice to this mass of inscriptions here, but we will reproduce one of the figures below.

(de Mahieu, Jacques; "Corpus des Inscriptions Runiques d'Amerique du Sud," Kadath, no. 68, p. 11, 1988.)

Comment. To American anomalists, the frustrating part of this whole business is the need to go to foreign-language journals to escape the prison of archeological orthodoxy. South American runes are rarely mentioned in American archeological journals, and we doubt that the treasure house of material just presented in Kadath will make much of an impression on this side of the Atlantic. Why risk one's career for a few scratches on South American rocks?

http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf062/sf062a02.htm

So far I've found this... ;) but I'll keep searching

http://www.dark-truth.org/okt19-2006-12.html

INTRODUCTION

There is a region of Paraguay where overwhelming evidence exists of Viking occupation in the period 1000-1300 AD. The decrypted runic inscriptions indicate a dialect very close to the language spoken by the inhabitants of the Schleswig peninsula.

Archaeological examination of the territory was conducted in the latter part of the 1970s by a professorial team in collaboration with the Paraguayan Government and Army, and the Instituto de Ciencia del Hombre of Asuncion. There can be no doubt that the Vikings settled this region of South America. The reason why they did so is rather more elusive, as is the explanation why modern historians might want to distance themselves from any discussion of Schleswig Vikings in Paraguay.

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... and interesting debate here...

http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_piscovalley.htm

any one heard of these mounds????

Thousands of man-sized holes are carved into the barren rock near Pisco Valley, Peru on a plain called Cajamarquilla.

Archeologists have speculated they were dug to store grain in. Two problems with this, say the folks thinking out of the box: there were a lot easier ways to create storage containers than the hard work and decades it must have taken to chip out all of these, and it would have made more sense, if these were to store grain, to build several huge chambers.

Ok, said the archeologists. Perhaps they were used as one-person tombs? Vertical graves of some sort? But no bones, artifacts, scraps, inscriptions, jewelry...not even a tooth or strand of hair has been found in them. They have no covers to seal them as you might a tomb and no sacred history or even myth was passed down to label them as such.

... and then compare them with the Mima mounds!!!!

http://perigeezero.org/treatise/Enigmas/ge...ic/mima_mounds/

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"La Republica"

by Roberto Ochoa Berreteaga, World Press Review, September 1991, p. 50.

British born William Burns, a textile engineer, married to a Peruvian woman, has gained wide acclaim for his work on deciphering ancient Peruvian writing. Burns's work explains that the writing is based on a system with no phonetic symbols. This writing system existed before the time of the Spanish conquest. After extensive study of Simi Runes (Peru's aboriginal languages), and analyses of various official Quechuan alphabets, which the Ministry of Education in Peru has approved since 1945, Burns concluded that a writing system composed of 10 consonants and closely related to counting, could be combined in such a way that they could form more than 3 million words. This writing system did not include vowels and could be represented in knots, thus making communication through the "Quipus" entirely possible.

http://www.labyrinthina.com/ica.htm

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Bill informed us that the famous writer, Barry Fell, examined these same petroglyphs in photographs and was the first to suggest that they were ancient writing. Unfortunately for Fell, the photographs were not detailed enough to discriminate between the petroglyphs and naturally formed rock stains. When Fell's attempt at a translation was reviewed at this site, this was abundantly clear - even to Fell. Although Fell was on the right track, his work was summarily discredited and the possibility of these symbols being "writing" was largely ignored by scholars.

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In 1966 Dr. Jules Piccus, professor of romance languages at the University of Massachusetts, bought an old scrapbook at a rummage sale containing a letter written by Netto in 1874, which contained his translations of the markings on the stone and a tracing of the original copy he had received from Costa's son. Intrigued, Dr. Piccus brought the material to the attention of Cyrus H. Gordon. Dr. Gordon, the head of the Department of Mediterranean Studies at Brandeis and an expert in ancient Semitic languages, as well as author of some 13 books, was amazed. He compared the Paraiba inscription with the latest work on Phoenician writings. He discovered that it contained nuances and quirks of Phoenician style that could not have been known to a 19th century forger. The writings had to be genuine!

Gordon translated the inscription as follows: "We are Sidonian Canaanites from the city of the Mercantile King. We were cast up on this distant shore, a land of mountains. We sacrificed a youth to the celestial gods and goddesses in the nineteenth year of our mighty King Hiram and embarked from Ezion-geber into the Red Sea. We voyaged with ten ships and were at sea together for two years around Africa. Then we were separated by the hand of Baal and were no longer with our companions. So we have come here, twelve men and three women, into New Shore. Am I, the Admiral, a man who would flee? Nay! May the celestial gods and goddesses favor us well!"

The Navy of King Solomon

Cyrus Gordon believes the king mentioned in the script can be identified as Hiram III who reigned 553-533 B.C. The inscription seems to verify an unusual statement found in the Old Testament. An ancient Biblical chronicler wrote:

"And king Solomon made a navy of ships in Ezion-geber, which is beside Eloth, on the shore of the Red sea, in the land of Edom. And Hiram sent in the navy his servants, shipmen that had knowledge of the sea, with the servants of Solomon. And they came to Ophir, and fetched from thence gold, four hundred and twenty talents, and brought it to king Solomon" (I Kings 9:26-28).

:tu: Amazing Discoveries in Mexico

Were Hebrews in the Americas long before Columbus? More evidence comes from the investigations of Dr. Alexander von Wuthenau, whom I interviewed at his home in Mexico City. His living room was filled to overflowing with terra cotta pottery figures and objects d' art. In his book The Art of Terra Cotta Pottery in Pre-Columbian Central and South America, Dr. Von Wuthenau published scores of photographs of these art objects. He tells of his astonishment, when he first noted that in the earliest, lower levels of each excavation he encountered -- not typical Indian heads -- but heads of Mongolians, Chinese, Japanese, Tartars, Negroes, and "all kinds of white people, especially Semitic Types with and without beards" (p. 49).

At Acapulco, von Wuthenau found that early Semitic peoples lived in considerable numbers. "The curious points about these essentially primitive figures are that, first, there is an emphasis on markedly Semitic-Hebrew features," he declared (p. 86). Female figures found in the region are also markedly Caucasian, with delicate eyebrows, small mouths and opulent coiffures.

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Discoveries in South America

In the past century, several Brazilians have found inscriptions on rocks along the Amazon river. Over a period of 50 years, four men, including two who were scientists, uncovered inscriptions which they independently concluded were Phoenician in origin.

The first man, Francisco Pinto, in 1872 found over 20 caves deep in the Brazilian jungle and uncovered about 250 strange inscriptions upon the rocks. He thought they were Phoenician, and Brazil's Director of History and Geography corroborated his suspicions. A German philologist who studied the markings in 1911 felt they were genuine.

In the 1880s, Ernest Ronan, a French scientist, combed the jungles and found several more inscribed stones. In the 1920s a scholar by the name of Bernardo da Silva discovered many more inscriptions along the Amazon. It makes good sense. It explains why the Mayans,who considered Quetzalcoatl as the bringer of their arts and laws, depicted him as being unusually blond!

When the Spaniards discovered the New World in the early sixteenth century, perhaps fifty million inhabitants lived in the Western Hemisphere, speaking over 900 languages. Such linguistic diversity has long puzzled scholars, and logically attests to a diversity of origins. Carleton S. Coon reported that the conquistadores "commented on Montezuma's light skin, but did not remark that this ruler rarely exposed himself to the bright sun." Coon adds: "George Catlin, in his portraits of the Mandan Indians, depicted some of them as blond. . . . Another case of allegedly abberrant Indians is that of the Pomo, Hupa, and neighboring tribes in north-central California whose beard growth seems to have been Caucasoid when they were first seen" (Coon, The Living Races of Man, p.154).

Another mystery to ethnologists is the existence of a white skinned, red-bearded tribe discovered by builders of Brazil's Trans-Amazon Highway. Called the Lower Assurinis because they live south of the route of the highway, they have ear lobes (which is uncharacteristic of other tribes), and their language differs from traditional dialects in the region.

Sir Walter Raleigh in his History of the World mentioned that the Indians he encountered used many Welsh words long before the Welsh were known to have come to America. Linguistic studies prove that the Welsh language is very closely akin to ancient Hebrew!

B):tu: Or it could have been evidence of Thracians...or Basques!!!!!

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"It is a tremendous city ... containing areas with stone etchings and 10-meter (33-foot) high walls," said Savoy, who had to hack through trees and thick foliage to finally reach the site on Aug. 15.

Covered in matted tree branches and interspersed with lakes and waterfalls, the settlement sites also contain well-preserved graveyards with mummies with teeth "in almost perfect condition," Savoy said.

Replete with stone agricultural terraces and water canals, the city complex is thought to have been home to the little-known Chachapoyas culture.

According to early accounts by Spanish conquistadors who arrived in Peru in the early 1500s, the Chachapoyas were a fair-skinned warrior tribe famous for their tall stature. Today they are known for the giant burial coffins sculpted into human figures found in the northern jungle region.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5738905/

http://www.neatorama.com/2006/09/17/cascaj...ing-in-america/

Explore Peru's 5000-year-old city, Caral

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap_travel/20061016...eru_oldest_city

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Whats interesting to note also, is the reed boats made in Peru, these boats have been made the same way for millenia.

http://www.photostocksource.com/peru-reed-boat-photos-1.php

There is only one other place in the world where these boats are made with the same type of craftsmanship...and thats in Egypt, and it's surrounding areas.

http://www.plu.edu/~ryandp/RAX.html

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