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[MadMachine]

I like fish, so I googled info about exactly how harmful the mercury in fish can be. This is what I found: http://www.fishscam.com/ My temporary paranoia is over.

[justcallmefox]

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WRONG. Most countries that do fishing have a rule named "veta"(at least in spanish). This rule stop fishermen from fishing a certain kind of fish(it varies) some months of a year when the fish are reproducing so they can do their thing, because they know that if they fish them during that sensible time, they can kill all the population. So, when this veta time ends, they fish again. Fish reproduce so quickly and in such great numbers that if we didn't fish some of these species they would overpopulate their ecosystem and by doing this they would make a MESS out of it.
So there you go, fishing is good in every sense.
It's almost the same reason to hunt deers, quails and even in some parts wild turkeys(among other animals). Overpopulation can break ecosystems.

You're right, Daniella. Although I feel the need to point out that overfishing is bad in its own way- kills off the fish, etc. etc. and soforth.
But I recall other people in the post pointing that out, and you're right about 'veta', so I'll shut up.  

BTW- Much respect goes to you from me- I've never met a vegan who is willing to let others have their beliefs- usually it's something like "You horrid person, you should go to hell for eating meat!!" Kudos to you.

[Bella-Angelique]

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I wouldn't eat fish the amount of mercury is dangerous and some store post that info

No ocean fish for me either because of mercury, and I am not a vegan.
Lots of people eating ocean fish have become ill.
That means canned tuna folks.
More than once a week is really pushing it for adults and I doubt growing children should ever eat ocean fish anymore at all.

Seeing is believing.
When someone who aches and is tired all of the time gives up eating ocean fish and gets better, that is good enough for me.

Edited by Bella-Angelique, 01 August 2006 - 03:00 PM.

[Ravinar]

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Fish reproduce so quickly and in such great numbers that if we didn't fish some of these species they would overpopulate their ecosystem and by doing this they would make a MESS out of it.So there you go, fishing is good in every sense.

were did you get this idea? the marine ecosystem was taking care of its self just fine long before any humans were around. the reason fish have so many offspring is because most of them don't survive to adulthood because they become food for other animals. there is a difference from the degradation of the marine ecosystem then that of land based ecosystems. on the land we see that the predators are the fist to go. this is because humans hunt them out to reduce competition for prey (much the way lions will kill cheetah cubs to reduce the competition for prey) its a survival instinct embedded in our genes. this leeds to herbivores taking over the ecosystem eating up all the plants causing it to collapse. but in marine ecosystems both predator and prey are being targeted and the degradation is happening on all levels of the food chain.

[Ravinar]

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well heelloooo the Bible says that God created animals so we could eat them and use them for our survival. That's just the way it is.

thats the kind of attitude thats going to make us an endangered species one day.

[Atheist God]

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and thats why you will forever be blind and ignorant of the world around you. you think there is an infinite supply of fish in the ocean. well gess what there isn't. most species cant handle the fishing pressure were putting on them. if we don't do some thing about it then countless species of fish and other marine animals will go extinct forever. those of you who don't think its a problem and like to crack jokes about it are as blind and ignorant as this guy.^

Yes they can and we will never deplete them 100%. Despite what you see in those videos we are still only fishing a tiny percentage of marine life. Most fisherman fish only off the coasts of countries along the shelf within that specified countries waters. Though there is not an infinate supply it is safe to say that we will never be able to fish all the fish in the ocean. I do not think this is a problem.

Do you know what the real problem is...

It is people like you who try to justify your words by insulting others and the most common response to opposition by people like you is "You Blind" and "Your Ignorant". The bottom line is insults do not justify what you say.

Also in North America we are only allowed to fish part of the year. this is to allow repopulation of fish into the specified fishing areas. It seriously is not a problem only those who listen to animal rights activists think so. They are propaganda masters who soley base their arguments on their own opinions.

The ocean covers over 70% of the worlds surfaceand we maybe fish in about .0001% of those waters realistically. You can over fish a specific area but if you leave it alone then the fish re-populate that fishing zone. Think of it like clear cutting and then planting new trees to replace the old ones. then you cut another area and so on eventually you come back to the original area and the trees have replenished themselves and you repeat the process.

Same goes for fishing you fish one area and move on come back and the fish have re-populated. Most countries do this to avoid over depletion and it works. Activists are basing their opinions on a false set of ethics which is quite misleading.

[Sweetpumper]

Seafood is disgusting.

[MadMachine]

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Seafood is disgusting.

That's a matter of opinion. It may be disgusting to you, but it's not to me. Not yet anyway...

[Sweetpumper]

You realize that if you step on a shrimp or crush a lobster (both bottom-feeders), the same white garbage squirts out that does when you step on a cockroach? The only difference is those first two live in water.

[MadMachine]

Well I like to eat fish. I do NOT like to eat shrimp and lobster. Lobsters look cool and I hate that people keep them in tanks waiting to be boiled alive and eaten.

[Atheist God]

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Well I like to eat fish. I do NOT like to eat shrimp and lobster. Lobsters look cool and I hate that people keep them in tanks waiting to be boiled alive and eaten.

I'ts a small price to  pay for delicousness...

They do not feel pain anyway....

[Luziadus]

Between 11th and 15th August my city have every years the Shellfish Festival,each year more people cames from every part of the world.
And since my childhood I eat shellfish like ostras(oyster),camarão(shrimp),sapateiras(huge crab),caranguejos(crab),ameijoa(cockle),.....and many others that we will have on that festival,and I'm still alive and healthy.
Of course it only makes bad to your health if the place where you get it is polluted,but I prefer this kind of food than meat.

Edited by Endymion, 01 August 2006 - 09:04 PM.

[MadMachine]

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They do not feel pain anyway....

Even if they don't feel pain, I still think they look cool, and kinda cute too. That's why I don't want to eat them. And shrimp? I just don't like shrimp. It's creepy feeling their tails in your hand when you're about to bite off the meat... I'm never eating Lobster, and never again eating Shrimp.

[~sYMBIONt~]

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I totally agree with you on this one. I personally dont eat seafood- fish, shell fish, oysters, any form of it (sorry, but it bugs me when I tell people I dont eat see food and they ask me "what about lobster or shrimp"!! if it's from the ocean, I dont eat it!). if one chooses to eat fish, certian companies are dolphin and turtle safe. it's not perfect, but a start.

same here  

[~sYMBIONt~]

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I'ts a small price to  pay for delicousness...

They do not feel pain anyway....

why not all animals feel pain i hear you can hear them sceam when they are bolied