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[Stubbly_Dooright]

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Hey folks ! My name is Dwayne Cecil, I served at Fort Dix from January 1989-June 1991 and I can add a few things to your discussion.

Walson was not allowed to deliver babies when I was stationed there because they had something like a 60% infant mortality rate back in the 1970s. My wife became pregnant in November 1989 and we had to drive some thirty miles to Mt. Holly for the birth in 1990 because Walson was forbidden by the Department of the Army to deliver babies.

The same experience, or simular experience happened to me too. At the time of becoming pregnant with my second child, my son, Walson happened to be opened, and I went there to take the pregnancy test and my first pregnancy checkup. I had to file a non-available statement, because of the fact of the lack of a maternity ward due to problems with infant deaths when it was in existence. I had my son at Rancoucas in Willingboro.

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Also, Walson was mentioned on a circa 1993 episode of America's Most Wanted when an elderly Pennsylvania WW2 veteran killed his wife because she was planning on taking him back to Walson for some kind of medical treatment. His VFW/American Legion buddies were interviewed by America's Most Wanted and said that the fellow had threatened to kill his wife if she ever took him back to that "god awful place" and that he heard "demon voices" the last time he had received treatment there.

whoa! I didn't know that, but I have been lately hearing and reading stuff that happened at both McGuire AFB where we lived, and Fort Dix since leaving he area over two years ago. Since I have been in Walson hospital more than once before it closed, I really do not remember any vivid memories of ghosts. Though I had thought I had some disturbing feelings on the various times I have been in there.

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Fort Dix in general : I lived in Kennedy Courts on Dix and used to walk the older, abandoned training sites in the woods on the south side of Pemberton Road and east of Texas Avenue hunting old junk and had a few spooky encounters in the pine barrens.

1. As often as I walked those trails (and that was a lot) I never heard a bird sing nor saw an animal scurry by. [/qute]
There was one time my husband and I, in a car, decided the drive through a lot of Fort Dix, driving very deep into the base by the tarred roads becoming dirt roads. I had thought how quiet the woods were there.

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A car dealer named Harry DuBell (Browns Mills native) told me later that the pine barrens were prime dumping grounds for mob hits but also said the body "coulda been leftovers from the Leeds Devil ya know !!! Ha ! Ha !".

I remember hearing about a body of a male being found in the Brown's Mills Acme dumpster back a few years ago, when we were still living there. I wonder if was part of that mob story.

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5. Red glowing eyes. I lived at 906 D in Kennedy Courts right on Pemberton Road. On the left side of the road was a thick growth of trees.

Neighbors of mine reported seeing "glowing red eyes" peering out from those woods at different times of the night.

I awoke several times in the dead of night and "knew" the red glowing eyes were peering into my upstairs bedroom but in the two and a half years I was there I never could bring myself to look out the woods and confirm this.

I find this very interesting. When we first moved into our second house on McGuire, my daughter told me once, that she saw glowing red eyes under her bed. Now, I have checked under bed, (Where she said she saw the eyes), and I found nothing, but I do want to give her the benefit of the doubt. And considering I have witnessed quite a few things myself in that house, I really think she may have something.
I know I have seen a boy in jeans and a cap walking down a Fort Dix road one night,(near Cedar),  where my friend claimed she saw fading away. I didn't realize he could be a ghost until seeing various sightings of him on the net.

I would really like to hear more experiences of others at Fort Dix. McGuire too, if it's possible.

[bLu3 de 3n3rgy]

What a fascinating thread.

[crouton]

^I have to agree.  Very interesting.

[kiddglock]

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^I have to agree.  Very interesting.

Yup, I read a lot of them and comment on a few.  This is a keeper.  I wonder if there is much about Dix on the Weird New Jersey site.  I may check.  

[karkev]

Stubbly_Dooright wrote: "I know I have seen a boy in jeans and a cap walking down a Fort Dix road one night,(near Cedar), where my friend claimed she saw fading away. I didn't realize he could be a ghost until seeing various sightings of him on the net. "

That gave me a chill ! That young fellow was mentioned at a mandatory"quality of life"  meeting for families living in quarters on Dix in either late 1990 or early 1991.

Several residents mentioned the boy darting out in front of cars near a youth rec center on the south end of post, west of Texas Avenue on Pemberton Road but no one could find him afterward. This rec center was near the secondary movie theatre - not Timmerman but the one in the AIT trainee area.

The post commander at the time, Major General James Wurman, knew about the boy and said so at the meeting. I don't think he thought of it as a ghost but believed it to be a mischievous young rascal playing chicken. He increased MP traffic around the area for quite awhile to try and catch the offender.

I never knew it had a supernatural overtone !

Just curious - has anyone seen a smiling older black lady dressed in Civil War era slave garb walking on Dix behind what used to be Kennedy Courts ?

Edited by karkev, 19 January 2007 - 07:55 PM.

[Stubbly_Dooright]

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Stubbly_Dooright wrote: "I know I have seen a boy in jeans and a cap walking down a Fort Dix road one night,(near Cedar), where my friend claimed she saw fading away. I didn't realize he could be a ghost until seeing various sightings of him on the net. "

That gave me a chill ! That young fellow was mentioned at a mandatory"quality of life"  meeting for families living in quarters on Dix in either late 1990 or early 1991.

Several residents mentioned the boy darting out in front of cars near a youth rec center on the south end of post, west of Texas Avenue on Pemberton Road but no one could find him afterward. This rec center was near the secondary movie theatre - not Timmerman but the one in the AIT trainee area.

The post commander at the time, Major General James Wurman, knew about the boy and said so at the meeting. I don't think he thought of it as a ghost but believed it to be a mischievous young rascal playing chicken. He increased MP traffic around the area for quite awhile to try and catch the offender.

I never knew it had a supernatural overtone !

Thank you karkev! I have been all over the net trying to find out more information of this boy for the last few years, except what I have read on Shadowlands.net and what I saw. This latest information you have provided is very interesting. I find it interesting that this boy was the subject of a meeting taking place in the early 1990's. Only because my friend and I saw him and his sighting in the early 2000's. I don't know what you mean about him darting out in front of cars, but I wonder if him walking across the intersection of one street we were driving down to end of the other street he was walking parallel to, as to darting in front of out car, coming to a stop would qualify? I still clearly have the memory of his just  walking non-plussed at the end of the road we were coming to the end of, and he was staring ahead. And yes, there is a youth center, (Which use to be a shoppette) across the street from there.
I have been trying to find out of any news of a boy being hit by a car in that area, and if it's in the news. I am just wondering where this boy came from.

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Just curious - has anyone seen a smiling older black lady dressed in Civil War era slave garb walking on Dix behind what used to be Kennedy Courts ?

I haven't, but then unlike the area of the boy, I hardly went to that area when we use to live there. This is an interesting bit of news of a sighting.

[karkev]

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Thank you karkev! I have been all over the net trying to find out more information of this boy for the last few years, except what I have read on Shadowlands.net and what I saw. This latest information you have provided is very interesting. I find it interesting that this boy was the subject of a meeting taking place in the early 1990's. Only because my friend and I saw him and his sighting in the early 2000's. I don't know what you mean about him darting out in front of cars, but I wonder if him walking across the intersection of one street we were driving down to end of the other street he was walking parallel to, as to darting in front of out car, coming to a stop would qualify? I still clearly have the memory of his just  walking non-plussed at the end of the road we were coming to the end of, and he was staring ahead. And yes, there is a youth center, (Which use to be a shoppette) across the street from there.
I have been trying to find out of any news of a boy being hit by a car in that area, and if it's in the news. I am just wondering where this boy came from.

I haven't, but then unlike the area of the boy, I hardly went to that area when we use to live there. This is an interesting bit of news of a sighting.

Stubbly_Dooright, I sure don't have any info about a boy being hit. As far as I knew at that time this was a live child being a pain in the butt and no one was able to catch him in the act. I hadn't thought of it in probably seventeen years until you mentioned your encounter but again - I never knew there was anything "other worldly" about the story.  

The black lady I mentioned was (is ?) the shared "guardian angel" of my wife and I   .  A few weeks before my daughter was born on Dix in 1990 my car broke down and I began bumming rides with a Creole co-worker named Ray.

Anyway, several times on the way to work with Ray I noticed this older black lady in Aunt Jemima type garb - ankle length dress, red bandanna on her head  - who held her dress up a bit so that the hem didn't drag in the grass as she walked.

She always wore the most glowing, happy, contented smile as she walked.

About two weeks after my daughter was born, my wife, our toddler son, newborn daughter and myself were strolling through the Columbus Farmer's Market (several miles west and north of Dix).  My wife at that time was barely seventeen, 5'4, 85 lbs, could have passed for fourteen and was often mistaken for my daughter even though I was barely nineteen myself.

The black lady I mentioned earlier came up to us as we were shopping with tears in her eyes and asked my wife," Honey, are both of those babies yours !?!". When my wife said, "Yes," the lady told her, "You don't have no more babies, you hear me ? You are too small !". She then looked at me and said, "You make sure she don't have no more babies !".

Well, when she said that my wife and I both kind of laughed but we also got teary eyed. We took nothing but kind thoughts and genuine concern from the lady's words and believed she was truly worried about our family. The lady disappeared into the crowd and we really didn't think too much about it.

The next day during the ride to work I asked Ray if he knew the name of the lady we saw so often on the way to work. He said, "I ain't never seen no lady like that, Cecil." I described her as clear as I could, told him I'd seen her numerous times when he and I rode together but Ray insisted he'd never noticed her.

I never saw her again though my wife did see her one more time when she (my wife) was raking leaves in the back of our quarters in Kennedy Courts. The lady never acknowledged she saw my wife but just kept on walking, smiling and happy. She may very well have just been a kind stranger but the wife and I do feel as though she was an unusually kind soul if not a true angel.

By the way, our son will turn eighteen in May and our daughter seventeen in June and they are our only two kids   .

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[Barek Halfhand]

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Hello,

I was an Army medic years back and stationed at Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio Texas. Old large hospitals can be pretty spooky places, there were lots of areas at the medical center that I was at that gave me the willies...

BAMC is the Army's burn care center, and all of the major burn cases were sent there for treatment. I can't imagine how much agony that the wall of that building had seen and if anyplace is going to be haunted, I'd say that hospital stood a good chance.

I hadn't heard anything about the hospital on Ft. Dix, though I only knew a few people that served there...

Good luck finding out any information...

hmmmmmmmm Mr Bunny ,  hello by the way,  you heard it here folks! from a moderator!!(now if he just has SPs too!!!)
sounds like you might be describing a residual haunting scenario would love to hear more about the type of building this was ? brick, stone etc............B

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[Stubbly_Dooright]

Karkev, I have been to said Columbus Market many times while we still lived down in Jersey. Loved that place. Bought a lot of things there, including our dining room hutch, that still stands today. The original owners gave us a great deal for it. As for that boy, he is going to still haunt me, (not sure if pun is intended or not) and never know about his history. It sounds like Fort Dix has a lot of paranormal activity going on down there, along with McGuire AFB with it.

Barek Halfhand, I'm not sure if you were talking about the hospital on Fort Dix or not, but if you were, the hospital is all brick, with about five or six floors. One thing I do remember, after it was closed, and the new hospital set up behind the BX/PX and commissary, I have noticed how eerie it was to pass it every time I went to housing on Fort Dix. I had noticed how odd it was that the shades of the top floors of the old hospital would be up and the lights on, bright as anything. I have felt like something was still there, and this from a car about a mile or so from the building. From my understanding of it, this particular hospital building is the second one on the base, with the one I just mentioned that just went up while we were there, being the third. (Or so I believe). Working with a friend of mine in Burlington there, she was an Army brat and she told me, she was born in the hospital that were just one floor barracks type building, before the abandonded brick one we are talking about now. I remember seeing them, when they were still up, and yet empty. Then they were leveled. I wonder if the brick building will head into the same fate.

[karkev]

Stubbly, you might place a very polite phone call to the Dix MPs and see if any recent comments/complaints have been made to them regarding the scamp............maybe downplay the supernatural aspect   .

[Stubbly_Dooright]

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Stubbly, you might place a very polite phone call to the Dix MPs and see if any recent comments/complaints have been made to them regarding the scamp............maybe downplay the supernatural aspect   .

Humnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, I never thought of that!  

[dawn1532]

I briefly worked at the clinic back in 99/2000 and I can tell you that the stories are without a doubt true. I have seen and felt the spirits that dwell in that building and it was enough for me to leave and never return.

[Claizen]

Karkev- That petition you added, I stopped believing it right when the Bushs' name were mentioned. How could an online petition work?

[jenheinee]

I live at Ft Dix right now-on Cedar Street and nwo all this makes me want to walk down the road tonight and see something! I have been down there many times at all hours and never seen anything weird yet-but you never know!I've never heard any stories about ghosts,murders or anything creepy.The living people here are much scarier than the non-living! But if anyone knows anything interesting I'd be willing to look around.Ghostly stuff has always interested me-I have never seen anything yet!!

[JustNormal]

Great stories, Does anyone have photos of that building or around the area? Thanks..JN