and are you a professional historian? I don't think so. the Bible must be right somehow because there's alot of powerful Christians out there (I mean spiritually) All that's important is that you would do was Jesus would, Christian means Christ like and that's mostly important.
if satan didn't exist, who was the leader of the music in heaven? and the most good looking angel? it's all in the Bible, did you ever even read the Bible? because, compared to my knowledge you can't be right, no offense.
Actually, Falling Alien, I never said "Satan didn't exist" as you erroneously claim, and in truth, I really am a "professional historian". Some of my books are printed in German, French, and Italian, as well as English and sold in the bookshops of major museums. If you watch the History Channel, you may very well have seen me several times on programs related to ancient Rome and Greece.
My latest book which I hope will be out by Christmas strips off the later Roman Catholic mythology and explains the story of the real Satan of the ancient scriptures which has nothing to do with imaginary fallen angels.
I never said that Satan didn't exist, the Bible says he is very real, and in Job, he is called one of the Sons of God, and is an obedient servant, which is a far cry from the "mythical satan of modern christian mythology. What I actually said was that a fallen angel named Lucifer doesn't exist. It is a mistranslation as other people have stated here as well, and there are many web sites you can find that explains this in great detail.
I don't know where you people get the idea Satan "led" the heavenly choir because it is not in the Bible. But there may be a ring of truth in it becasue the only physical description of the Biblical Satan is that of a "fiery red dragon", and he is also a dragon in other ancient Jewish scriptures which are not a part of the actual Old Testament books, but often add additional details to the Bible, (like the dragon who nearly swallows, but spews out Moses because he displeased God by not circumcising his son).
But back to the "Heavenly Choir", the only creatures that sing praises to God in the Bible are also dragons. In Psalms it states that dragons sing praises to God. And in Isaiah it says Seraphim sing praises to God. And what does the word Seraphim mean? "Flying Fiery Serpents" in the originall Hebrew, which is another way of saying "Dragons" and if that were not enough proof, when the word Seraphim was translated from Hebrew into Greek, the Greek word it became was "Drakone" (which is where the modern word dragon comes from).
So whether you care to believe it or not, in the authentic, original Bible, untainted by modern Christian myths and mistranslations, the highest heavenly creatures are man-eating, soul consuming, fire spewing, scaly reptilian dragons that also happend to gather around the throne of God and sing praises in his name, and if you take the Book of Revelation as the literal truth, these dragons will return to earth ridden by angels and destroy one third of the human race. You can even find original ancient Christian mosaics frescoes and bible covers depicting God on a throne of two dragons (the covering Cherubs), usually at least one of these dragons is gobbling up a sinner who did not pass judgement.
The "belly" of these dragons was even the original concept of the punishment of Hell, which did not go out of style until Dante's best selling book which brought us the modern underground "cartoon hell" ruled by Satan.
I guess they never told you about all of this cool stuff in Sunday School, did they? It might give the kiddies nightmares I suspect.
Edited by draconic chronicler, 14 October 2006 - 11:52 AM.