"The ONLY scripture Jesus ever endorsed are the scriptures of the Old Testament. " - I'd find that hard "endorsing" something when i'm dead... LOL!
" Jesus was a pious Jew. He was not trying to invent a new pagan religion filled with blasephemies taken from all the most popular pagan religions of Western Asia." Yes he had the apostles write about his story, and the jews rejected it, i think jesus would've wanted this new religion.
"The reason Lucifer is in the Christian dogma is because the Chritians THINK he is in the Old Testament. His existence is necessary to validate the dualistic, pagan theology stolen from Persian Zorosatrianism. But the truth of the matter is that there is no fallen angel in the Old Testament. There are disobedient angels, but none that revolted against God, and certainly not Satan, who is not even an angel."
You are dumb, literally DUMB STRICKEN, you are some old man which has nothing better to do with his time than declare he is right in every single way, when i've allready documented before in previous replies the definition of them, and not something cooked up in your head.
"You have probably even seen me on the History Channel, though no, I strongly suspect you are more of a "cartoon channel" type of guy." - Ha, i do not watch television really as theres nothing worth my time on there, and seeing you on the history channel does not make it more clear, this is some kind of explanation which makes the "common" people think "z0mg, he was on histroy chennel! he must nowz evrtyhing!" that is your sole purpose of using that lie.
"There are disobedient angels, but none that revolted against God, and certainly not Satan, who is not even an angel."
You are an idiot "although a literal belief in angels is by no means universal among Conservative Jews."
"Reform Judaism and Reconstructionist Judaism generally do not believe in angels, although they may retain references for metaphorical purposes."
"The 2nd-century BC Book of Enoch also mentions the Seraphim, but the term used is the Greek drakones (δράκονες meaning "serpents"). Enoch was never accepted in the Hebrew canon, but it was widely read and quoted by early Christians -- most notably in the Epistle of Jude, which was included in the New Testament canon. From the usage of the word "saraph" in this late text, Christian exegesis identifies as seraphim the snakes responsible for the deaths of the blaspheming Israelites in Numbers chapter 21:"And the LORD sent fiery serpents"
Names atributed to the seraphim order
* Chamuel (Kemuel, Shemuel)
Face it draconic chronicler, you have lost, angels and arch angels, plus satan and lucifer are all in the Bible, and the quaren, you have lost.
Leave this topic, there is nothing further here for you, and if you persist to slate in this topic and deny actual evidence brought to the answering of this topic, i will seek administration help.
Neither you, or previously Moondoggy, knows what you are talking about. As 67th has stated as well, you have made the false assumption that the "modern Christian popular mythology" believed in by most of mainstream Christianity about a beautiful fallen angel named Lucifer who would become a disobedient Satan in in the Bible. Well, it is not in the Bible. Christianity didn't even invent Lucifer until the 5th century AD. ALL the facts are on my side.
I never said there were "no angels in the bible". I said that SOME of the heavenly creatures in the Bible are indisputably Reptilian in form, and the ancient Christians themselves acknowledged this as we see in their genuine art and scriptures. They actually translated the word Seraphim to Drakones in ancient times. But later they didn't like that idea so they have turned them into swan-winged cartoon angels. But then, they also invented a fallen angel named Lucifer out of thin Air.
Yes, Satan is in the Bible, and he is in ancient Jewish scripture outside of the bible as well. Thoughout the Old testament there is nothing about him rebelling from God. On the contrary, he is constantly being sent on missions by God. The Hebrew scriptures never state he is an angel. The only physical descripton of him in Hebrew literature is the part taken out of the current Bible where God commands him to swallow Moses because he did not circumcise his son. And here is is a serpent-dragon, which is the correct translation for the Hebrew word Seraphim. But you probably have so little knowledge of the Bible that you have no idea what I am talking about.
I do recommend you get my book, for everything stated is backed up by copius footnotes of the original scriptures, not to mention genuine ancient Christian art that proves what these people (closest to Jesus), actually believed, and it is not your modern Christian fairytales. God in those ancient depictions is surrounded by Seraphim that look like dragons, swallowing up sinners, and not your fluffy cartoon angels. The real angels of the bible look simply like young men, that why people mistake them for normal men throughout the Bible.
You really should desist from your juvenile name-calling, brough on in your frustration because you cannot carry on a civil discussion in a subject you know absolutely nothing about. It is not my fault they never told you about the real Bible in Sunday School where you apparently recieved all of you Biblical knowledge, or rather, your "non-biblical modern Christian mythology", for that is what you are actuallly referring to.