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[badeskov]

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but look on the bright side, the global warming problem will disappear when the '200 billion federation ships' arrive in orbit, and block out the sun...  

Hmmm, I guess they would be a rather dominant feature on the night sky  

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Badeskov

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These are the voyages of the.......ooops I thought we were role playing there for a minute.  Can I be Spock this time?

I will laugh last mr spock..and it's 200 trillion ships...why so many? to block out the sun like in the bible..maybe put on an airshow?....we'll see.

[badeskov]

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Unfortunately there is a problem with this way of learning. Some people have a tendency to make a theory/belief their own over the years. The problem with "smart people" is that they like to be right and sometimes will defend ideas to the death rather than admit theyre wrong. This is bad.

It is indeed very bad. However, in science you are often governed by theories, which can be formulated in ways where it can be proven whether you are wrong or not. It might take years and years, but nonetheless, it can be done.

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Worse, if they got away with it when they were young (say, because they were smarter than their parents, their friends, and their parents friends) theyve probably built an ego around being right, and will therefore defend their perfect record of invented righteousness to the death. Smart people often fall into the trap of preferring to be right even if its based in delusion.

Egos is definitely something that is found in abundance in the science community, for sure.

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Personally I like it, I have changed my mind about the paranormal and many other things in the past, when faced with good evidence to the opposite, and Im sure I will again.

So do I and so do many researchers and scientists. And to most scientists it is actually not that bad being wrong, but rather the opposite. Lots of times you get stuck in something that is wrong and you can't figure out why, until you formulate it and present it to others. And when people poke holes in your "brilliant work", you yourself understand where you took a wrong turn and suddenly you can move on and refine your theory.

It is a learning process to take critique like that and it takes time. But once you get used to that people will attack your work viciously and they are actually doing it because they want to understand what you are doing and in the process help you move forward, you learn to treasure it and it becomes a valuable tool.

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Badeskov

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I will laugh last mr spock..and it's 200 trillion ships...why so many? to block out the sun like in the bible..maybe put on an airshow?....we'll see.

I hope the gravity effect of having 200 trillion ships in orbit doesn't mess with the moons orbit...

I guess the federation has consumed millions of solar systems for the resources to build a 200 trillion ship fleet...

the enemies of the federation must be happy, the entire federation fleet is going to be way out on the rim soon, imagine the mischief they can get into...

[badeskov]

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the enemies of the federation must be happy, the entire federation fleet is going to be way out on the rim soon, imagine the mischief they can get into...

I guess the bars on Earth better start stocking up, as if just 1% of these guys get some R&R...

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Badeskov

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I guess the bars on Earth better start stocking up, as if just 1% of these guys get some R&R...

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Badeskov

LOL, I hadn't thought of that... someone should tell them it's BYOB  

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I will laugh last mr spock..and it's 200 trillion ships...why so many? to block out the sun like in the bible..maybe put on an airshow?....we'll see.

Seriously limited, we all know/hope that you are just having fun with this topic. Nothing wrong with that I guess. But just stop for a second an think about what you are saying, and more important, why!?

Im pretty sure the UFO believers doesnt like it, God knows their reputation needs a paint job. The skeptics? Well, If you really believe in this "federation ships on Earth this xmas" NONSENSE, then I honestly feel sorry for you.

Edited by hazzard, 16 November 2006 - 07:45 PM.

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LOL, I hadn't thought of that... someone should tell them it's BYOB  

Hehe, good idea! Although, on the other hand I would hate to be part of the cleaning party afterwards...200 Trillion ships, 1% of the crew drops by on R&R with, say, a six-pack each.  

Wow...

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Badeskov

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I will laugh last mr spock..and it's 200 trillion ships...why so many? to block out the sun like in the bible..maybe put on an airshow?....we'll see.

Word of advice...say NO if they offer you a purple smock.

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Word of advice...say NO if they offer you a purple smock.

    Thanks U_D, I havent laught like that in days.




Ok, back on topic, anyone?  I found this on another forum and thought it was a good question.

"Why shouldn`t aliens look like us? There are good scientific reasons to believe that extraterrestrial life forms might resemble human beings......"

Edited by hazzard, 16 November 2006 - 09:06 PM.

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Hehe, good idea! Although, on the other hand I would hate to be part of the cleaning party afterwards...200 Trillion ships, 1% of the crew drops by on R&R with, say, a six-pack each.  

Wow...

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Badeskov

how many tons of aluminium would that be? just wondering

[badeskov]

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    Thanks U_D, I havent laught like that in days.
Ok, back on topic, anyone?  I found this on another forum and thought it was a good question.

"Why shouldn`t aliens look like us? There are good scientific reasons to believe that extraterrestrial life forms might resemble human beings......"

While we can't say for sure, there are definitely good arguments for that ET might look like us. I.e. sensory organs (eyes and ears) placed on the top part and so on.

Regarding the topic of this discussion, I guess that we will never really reach a conclusion. You summed it up pretty well earlier in this topic, so I am afraid I am running out of options to throw out there for how ET found us (if we have been found, that is).

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[badeskov]

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how many tons of aluminium would that be? just wondering

Quite a lot, I guess. Well, a beer can weighs in at about 13g, so a six-pack is 78g. Assuming 1 person from each ship, which is probably low, we have 200 trillion ETs each bring one six-pack. 1 Trillion = 1*10^12, so we have 200*10^12 * 78g = 1.56*10^16g = 1.56*10^13kg=1.56*10^10tonnes or 15.6 billion tonnes!!! Wow!!!

Well, that was a completely irrelevant case study, but entertaining nonetheless

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Badeskov

Edited by badeskov, 16 November 2006 - 11:52 PM.

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Quite a lot, I guess. Well, a beer can weighs in at about 13g, so a six-pack is 78g. Assuming 1 person from each ship, which is probably low, we have 200 trillion ETs each bring one six-pack. 1 Trillion = 1*10^12, so we have 200*10^12 * 78g = 1.56*10^16g = 1.56*10^13kg=1.56*10^10tonnes or 15.6 billion tonnes!!! Wow!!!

Well, that was a completely irrelevant case study, but entertaining nonetheless

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Badeskov

wow indeed, thanks for taking the time working that out...