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#496    Shankpin

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Posted 19 November 2006 - 09:30 PM

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Hehe, my knowledge of biology is at best mediocre, so I posed the same question a little while back and I think Hazzard put it very well:
So as I understand it life could indeed be non-carbon based, but carbon is the most likely both due to the abundance and the chemical characteristics.

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Whoooo! glad I wasn't the only one in that direction--

Considering that they may not be rocks, then Wonder if the ufo'ers would be disappointed if aliens turned out looking something like a jellyfish?    


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Posted 19 November 2006 - 09:54 PM

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Whoooo! glad I wasn't the only one in that direction--


Most certainly not  wink2.gif

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Considering that they may not be rocks, then Wonder if the ufo'ers would be disappointed if aliens turned out looking something like a jellyfish?


Would be quite a bummer, eh  w00t.gif how do you communicate with a jelly fish and would we even anything in common with such an entity?

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 08:16 AM

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Whoooo! glad I wasn't the only one in that direction--

Considering that they may not be rocks, then Wonder if the ufo'ers would be disappointed if aliens turned out looking something like a jellyfish?


Im sure they would.  They always talk about "Nordics" "reptilians" or "Grays", all somewhat  humanoid in shapes and form. Why not throw in Klingon babes with big boobies and a couple of Stormtroopers aswell!?  rolleyes.gif

Anyway, if you havent seen this, "CGI drama/documentary that takes place on Darwin IV, a planet 6.5 light years from earth, with 2 suns and 60% of Earth's gravity", I strongly recomend it. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0453446/

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"Alien Planet " is a cosmic expedition along side Stephen Hawking, Michio Kaku, Jack Horner, Craig Venter, and George Lucas, and NASA's Chief Scientist Jim Garvin. No longer just the domain of science fiction, "Alien Planet" dramatizes an exciting and possible answer to what alien life really looks like and when we'll find it.

Edited by hazzard, 20 November 2006 - 09:07 AM.

I still await the compelling Exhibit A.

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 12:58 PM

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Anyway, if you havent seen this, "CGI drama/documentary that takes place on Darwin IV, a planet 6.5 light years from earth, with 2 suns and 60% of Earth's gravity", I strongly recomend it. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0453446/


Oh yeah! Alien Planet is very cool!  thumbsup.gif
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Posted 20 November 2006 - 05:28 PM

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Oh yeah! Alien Planet is very cool!  thumbsup.gif



This movie is kinda like Drakes equation, an educated guess. I mean, Stephen Hawking, Michio Kaku, Jack Horner, Craig Venter and NASA's Chief Scientist Jim Garvin are all pretty sharp people.


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The Drake Equation was developed by Frank Drake in 1961 as a way to focus on the factors which determine how many intelligent, communicating civilizations there are in our galaxy.


http://www.activemind.com/Mysterious/Topic...e_equation.html

Edited by hazzard, 20 November 2006 - 05:31 PM.

I still await the compelling Exhibit A.

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 08:03 PM

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Anyway, if you havent seen this, "CGI drama/documentary that takes place on Darwin IV, a planet 6.5 light years from earth, with 2 suns and 60% of Earth's gravity", I strongly recomend it. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0453446/


I have not seen this one sad.gif Well, I guess Amazon.com is my friend. I will see if I can find it.

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 08:07 PM

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I have not seen this one sad.gif


Oh, I think you'd really enjoy Alien Planet...I highly recommend it.
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Posted 20 November 2006 - 08:13 PM

It only takes one civilization to figure out where we are. And it only takes a few of them to decide we're worth taking a closer look at. I personally doubt we're being visited by people from outer space, but I do think that if we are it only takes one civilization with the right technology to get the ball rolling. And if they communicate with other civilizations, then eventually they'd be making the trip as well.
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Posted 20 November 2006 - 08:31 PM

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Oh, I think you'd really enjoy Alien Planet...I highly recommend it.


I think so, sounds like something right down my alley - I will grab it original.gif

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 08:34 PM

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It only takes one civilization to figure out where we are. And it only takes a few of them to decide we're worth taking a closer look at. I personally doubt we're being visited by people from outer space, but I do think that if we are it only takes one civilization with the right technology to get the ball rolling. And if they communicate with other civilizations, then eventually they'd be making the trip as well.


Yup, very true. When they first have identified Earth as holding intelligent life (well, some might still argue if life on Earth is indeed intelligent, but that is for another topic), I am sure it wouldn't take long for them to come in hordes if they have the means.

And if they also spread the rumour to their ET neighbours the next starsystem over, well, then we have the avalanche original.gif

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 08:55 PM

I was thinking about this "any aliens out there will be more advanced then us, and god help us if we shoot at them" deal.

This is an arguement that reeks of Hollywood. Movie aliens are often like distant relatives, they resemble us in an unpleasant sort of way. This is hardly a surprise. Hollywood creates characters that audiences can identify with, and thats why its aliens are so anthropomorphic (and why Donald Duck looks more like a human than a duck.)

But appearances aside, cinema aliens have another implausible attribute, theyre nearly always at our level of technical sophistication. We frequently trade gunfire with them or chase them around in our jets. This is silly, of course. Any beings capable of bridging the vast distances between the stars would be able to clean our clock when it comes to science and engineering.

I say, forget about movie aliens, who always seem keen to engage us in aerial combat, play around in our crop fields, play with our cows butts or invite us aboard their ships for unpleasant personal experiments.
I still await the compelling Exhibit A.

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 08:55 PM

If I was a citizen of an advanced civilization, you couldn't get me within a light year of Earth without a div. of space marines standing by... c'mon haven't you heard what the natives do to outsiders?

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 09:06 PM

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If I was a citizen of an advanced civilization, you couldn't get me within a light year of Earth without a div. of space marines standing by... c'mon haven't you heard what the natives do to outsiders?


Yeah, if they knew what was awaiting them. But if I was from Earth and was to explore a planet holding intelligent life sometime in the future when we get the means, I would certainly be very careful, knowing how we treat others original.gif

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Posted 20 November 2006 - 09:17 PM

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I was thinking about this "any aliens out there will be more advanced then us, and god help us if we shoot at them" deal.

This is an arguement that reeks of Hollywood. Movie aliens are often like distant relatives, they resemble us in an unpleasant sort of way. This is hardly a surprise. Hollywood creates characters that audiences can identify with, and thats why its aliens are so anthropomorphic (and why Donald Duck looks more like a human than a duck.)

But appearances aside, cinema aliens have another implausible attribute, theyre nearly always at our level of technical sophistication. We frequently trade gunfire with them or chase them around in our jets. This is silly, of course. Any beings capable of bridging the vast distances between the stars would be able to clean our clock when it comes to science and engineering.

I say, forget about movie aliens, who always seem keen to engage us in aerial combat, play around in our crop fields, play with our cows butts or invite us aboard their ships for unpleasant personal experiments.


My thoughts were the same. If ET was to visit us, we are confronted with a species that has managed to travel between stars, which in itself dictates a technological level way ahead of us. Assuming that they come from a planet with an atmosphere, that would most certainly also imply that they have perfected flying in said atmosphere 9and in any atmosphere. And they would most certainly also make sure that our atmosphere would ok to fly in before doing so.

Hence, any chance of us engaging said crafts in a dog fight would at best be far fetched. And the chance of actually hitting any of them even more so. And with respect to cow mutilations and abductions; if that was really perpetrated by ET, I am pretty sure he wouldn't give any part of the cow or human back. If really in ETs interest, in my point of view ET would most likely go on an abduction spree and grab whatever animal (humans included) that was near by that he could get at, and I seriously doubt he would even consider giving any specimens back.
  
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Posted 20 November 2006 - 09:24 PM

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This is an arguement that reeks of Hollywood. Movie aliens are often like distant relatives, they resemble us in an unpleasant sort of way. This is hardly a surprise. Hollywood creates characters that audiences can identify with, and thats why its aliens are so  (and why Donald Duck looks more like a human than a duck.)

Hollywood ET's all speak English as well...  grin2.gif

another reason Hollywood alien's look 'anthropomorphic', is because a human (usually), is wearing the costume...  original.gif




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