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#1    dancin'hamster

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Posted 08 November 2003 - 06:51 PM

After reading Gary's post on my last thread, I found this little story and thought it may interest you all

'This incident happened to my older brother when he was 18 or so, which would make it 1976 or 1977. He told my my family about what happened to him at the time and I don't think anyone really believed him. It made quite an impression on me, being only 9 or 10 at the time. I recently asked him if he'd made up the story (which he would admit now, believe me), and said that it really had happened and retold it.

He and a friend (who brought his dog) took off after school on a Friday to go camping at Little Eightmile Lake, which is in the Enchantments region of the North Cascades mountains, near Leavenworth, Washington. From the parking area it's about five miles to the lake, and in a national forest, so there's no one else around other than other hikers. They set up camp by the lake, ate, and leaving the pots and dishes around the fire, hit the sack in their tent. I know that now fires are forbidden, but they must have been okay then, or they were being scofflaws. Anyway, they were awakened in the middle of the night by the sound of something crashing around in the trees around their tent. My brother said that it then began running through the camp site, scattering the cookware and making a noise that he says he can't compare to anything else. He retold this story to me in the mid-80s and at the time Buick was running TV commercials in which at the end, a hawk or some bird of prey screams. He said that's the closest he can describe it, but it was much too loud to be a bird and too deep in pitch.

By this time his friend's dog was freaking out trying to get out of the tent (which was zipped up), and also trying to bark frantically, but it had had its vocal chords cut, so could only rasp, which made the whole thing even more unsettling. They could see the shadow of the thing against the tent walls (either it was a moonlit night, or the fire's embers were glowing enough, not sure) and he said it was big - at the time he thought it might be an elk for some reason. At some point the thing began pelting the sides of the tent with small rocks and circling the tent. After more crashing around the tent and screaming whatever it was made an exit through the woods.

They didn't open the tent (or sleep) until first light. Outside the tent all their gear was scattered, and a metal cooking pot was partly flattened. He said that large branches had been pushed or kicked or thrown into the clearing they were camping in, and although the dirt was disturbed in the area, there weren't any footprints they could find.'

sooooooooo............was it a Sasquatch? A Wendigo? An anti-social camper?

Hammy x x x




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Posted 08 November 2003 - 06:55 PM

QUOTE (dancin'hamster @ Nov 8 2003, 05:51 PM)
sooooooooo............was it a Sasquatch? A Wendigo? An anti-social camper?

An anti-social camper tongue.gif  

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Posted 08 November 2003 - 07:12 PM

Crikey, Hammy...Are you sure it wasn't the Blair Witch?

I'm always surprised that people go camping. Fast asleep in the middle of nowhere, with god knows what lurking around.

What are the local folklore stories for that area?  

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Posted 08 November 2003 - 08:00 PM

OMG Hammy........This makes my camping trip sound like a w/end in Disneyland!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Posted 08 November 2003 - 11:28 PM

  what else could it be but a chupacabra?  laugh.gif  

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Posted 09 November 2003 - 06:01 AM

QUOTE (moe eubleck @ Nov 8 2003, 10:28 PM)
what else could it be but a chupacabra?  laugh.gif

moe,it seems that you have that clear hate towards chupas,base on your other posts as well.Just out of curiosity,why?? original.gif

(Did they broke into your house the last time around and stole your cheese??If it's a yes,then I'd be mad at them too!! tongue.gif  grin2.gif )

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Posted 09 November 2003 - 11:29 AM

I'd wager it was a prank meant to scare your brother. I fully believe in Sasquatch but the 'squatches have received an undeserved bad reputation for throwing stones, tantrums, chasing people, vandalism, etc. Why if that was the case would a creature do something like that? And if they did as often as people say they do than why isn't there at least one picture showing a Sasquatch clearly? We have tons of footage of "When Animals Attack!!!". The truth is they don't terrorize people, and most accounts of Sasquatch are lies, or pranks played on the people involved.


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Posted 10 November 2003 - 12:15 AM

QUOTE (Engulf @ Nov 9 2003, 05:01 AM)
QUOTE (moe eubleck @ Nov 8 2003, 10:28 PM)
what else could it be but a chupacabra?  laugh.gif

moe,it seems that you have that clear hate towards chupas,base on your other posts as well.Just out of curiosity,why?? original.gif


LOL.  Yes they did steal my cheese!  thumbsup.gif  laugh.gif
   No, i dont hate chupas. I just think that a goat sucking government experiment is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.
But since everyone else is  throwing out the "ufo" or "gods will" or "the GOVERMENT" ideas to explain the uknown, i have taken it upon myself to use the infamous chupacabra. I have to be conspiriatorial about something if i want to fit in here.
  Though I must admit, the neighbors have been none to thrilled about me yelling "El Chupacabra!  EL CUPACABRA" out the windows at thier children.   whistling2.gif  

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 08:20 AM

sounds like a sasquatch to me. if they dont wasnt you in there neck of the woods thats one of the things they will do (throw rocks).here is a link about the wendigo.

http://www.americanmonsters.com/monsters/m...e&idarticle=233

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Posted 10 November 2003 - 09:12 AM

I think it was probably just a bear or a wild boar ..?


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Posted 11 November 2003 - 10:02 PM

Isn't the Wendigo a Native AMerican Myth? thumbsup.gif  

Then away out in the woods I heard that kind of a sound that a ghost makes when it wants to tell about something that's on its mind and can't make itself understood, and so can't rest easy in its grave, and has to go about that way every night grieving.

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Posted 12 November 2003 - 06:59 AM

question: Why would a Sasquatch throw a tantrum? Why would it throw things, stones, bend things out of anger just because some campers were in it's territory? Why not just plain out and out attack the people involved, as other animals who've displayed such strong territoriality? Compare the amount of Bear attacks each year, how many humans have been actually harmed by a sasquatch? Have you ever heard of any ape grabbing a frying pan and bending it, out of sheer rage? You're placing human emotional problems on a being that has eluded mankind for the last 10,000 years.

A lot of these stories started from the miners in Ape Canyon in 1924. They honestly believed they had been attacked by a group of Sasquatch. They hid in their cabin all through the night as stones and bodies pounced on the ceiling and walls all night. They assumed it was Sasquatch because they actually had seen one before, and shot it before it disappeared. They figured the group had come back for revenge. Only years later, a friend confessed on his deathbed that he and others had heard the miners story of shooting the Sasquatch, and decided the next night to play a practical joke on their buddies. They didn't count on the authorities or the press getting involved, and the whole thing got out of hand.

Several stories have followed the same formula, and we think this must be Sasquatch behaviour, because we like to cling to whatever testimony or supposed  evidence is available because we really want to believe that Sasquatch exists. But the problem is that none of these stories is proven, and if you take several pranks and several lies and draw your image from that you're left with a different being entirely.

I was raised in the mountains of the Cascade Range in Washington State. Right in the middle of Sasquatch territory. I spent the first year of my life in the family cabin at the base of Chrystal Mountain. I spent every day of every summer hiking through the Cascade Range, fishing in lakes that don't exist on any map, hunting in places that very few humans have ever seen. I spent every weekend during the winter skiing on the mountains since I was three years old. My father works for the Department of Natural Resources and several times pulled night watch for weeks at a time on places where a Sasquatch  had reportedly trashed a logging area and machinery etc. He and I have NEVER seen a Sasquatch attack anybody or throw any tantrum or threatening behaviour. In fact, my Dad also grew up in the mountains there and has never seen a Sasquatch at all. For that reason, he doesn't believe in them. I believe, however, that he chooses not to believe because if anybody were to ever see one, he woould've, and I think he is a little jealous and secretly does want to see one. I, however, am a firm believer in Sasquatch.

If you really want to know Sasquatch behaviour, pay attention to the Native American stories. I'm not talking about the ones that are meant to frighten children into behaving and not wandering away from camp. I mean the magical ones, the ones with real mystery, and awe. Because the Sasquatch are not apes as you or I know them, they are very magical beings, with a lot of fantastic powers. They are a lot more human than we are, in the truest sense of the word. They don't NEED to throw a tantrum or scare somebody off through violence, I'd say that behaviour is beneath them if they weren't so humble.

I attend Native American ceremonies on a regular basis, at least once a week. Through the Inipii ceremony and through meditation I've come to know Sasquatch to the extent that I'm positive they would never show any form of violence towards any human. Quite the opposite, I'm happy to say. Since I've started this course of action I've come to realize that the majority of statements and even the supposed "Greatest proof of the existence of Sasquatch" Are all just a bunch pranks, lies, and hoaxes. You might not believe me, but if you're going to take somebody's word for fact than I might as well throw in my voice for a people I've been honored to know.


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Posted 12 November 2003 - 08:49 AM

Actually, it's pretty much inkeeping with the bahavour of most greater apes (if we're to assume, for a moment, that the sasquatch is merely an underiscovered species of ape, and not some kind of strange 'missing link').

When confronting other creatures (or competing with each other) most apes don't attack...they go through a sort of ritual dance, involving making as much noise as they possible can, dragging sticks across the ground, throwing stones, drumming their feet against tree trunks...all in the name of whoever makes the most noise is percieved as the scariest guy on the block, and rises to dominance...or, on the flip side, enough noise will drive off invaders.

Apes attacking each other during these displays is almost unheard of...causing actual physical harm to each other is very rare as a matter of determining dominance. What you describe above sounds very much like one of these displays...it sounds pretty accurate too. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if it actually happened.

Pretty inkeeping with the idea that sasquatch are just an undiscovered species of greater ape...and if they were to be veiwed in that light, then the scientific world might take them more seriously, and at least one well funded expitition to seriously investigate and discover them might actually happen rolleyes.gif

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I've also heard of one that bashed empty airosol canisters together to create such a horrible noise, that it terrified his peers to the extent he quickly became the dominant male of that area.

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Posted 12 November 2003 - 08:56 AM

QUOTE (moe eubleck @ Nov 9 2003, 11:15 PM)
LOL.  Yes they did steal my cheese!  thumbsup.gif  laugh.gif

Blasted furry dog-faced animals,now I hate 'em!! laugh.gif  laugh.gif  

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Posted 12 November 2003 - 12:00 PM

it was probably a pissed up camper pulling someones plank tongue.gif  Kiddin aside this story sounds typical of most camping stories told in such a vivid way they can be took as being amything.

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