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Posted 04 February 2007 - 04:59 AM

Something made it. But what? Whales must be incredibly intelligent in there own way. If theres something bigger then it must have the smarts to know that mankind is bad. Stay away or else i will be captured and killed.


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Posted 04 February 2007 - 07:06 PM

Or...it's just tectonic activity.

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Posted 05 February 2007 - 05:47 PM

Or its godzilla


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Posted 05 February 2007 - 05:56 PM

I vote Gozirra.


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Posted 07 February 2007 - 01:05 PM

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This is not a new story.  In fact, the Japanese sent chum & cameras down in the trench where the "bloop" sound originated.  What they saw on the cameras was unbelievable.  However, they are not willing to disclose any footage.  Why?  dunno.

I do know this...we have only discovered a small fraction of our great oceans.  We have no idea what is down there.  It could be a massive fish that only dwell along the ocean bottom.


To quote Newt from Aliens, "My mommy always told me there were no monsters... no real ones, but there are..."

We have barely scratched the surface of our planet, and have only just taken our first wading steps into the beyond that is space, and how nieve and arrogant of us to think that we are the highest evolutionary life form. "Authors Note: See Astro-NUT in Diaper!" But the Sea as well as Space, holds both many beauties, and vast dangers. But, as it was in 1492, where there is great peril, there is also great wealth. Where avarice fails, paitience gains reward. Though we have been to the challenger deep, the trip was basically the equivilant of landing on the moon. It would not surprise me in the least to find some strange marauding aliens of the deep of considerable size with links to prehistoric creatures. If you do any kind of searching on the internet you will see some real life living fossils, that is, creatures thought long extinct being found alive today. "I.E. Coelacanth; Mega Mouth; Frilled Shark." Some species of Wolly Mammoth only missed surviving the Ice Age by only about 1000 years. Granted much speculation exhists on if we drove the species to extinction, but thats another story. Several species have gone extinct unfortunately due to mans involvement in exploring early on, "I.E. R.I.P. Dodo Birds", but with our understanding of the natural world and our newfound enlightenment, perhaps by learning from our mistakes in the past, we can prevent these kinds of catastrophy's in the future. We are the dominant species on the planet, i think it's time that we accept the honor, and the RESPONSIBILITY that the title grants us, and start acting like it. For we are the caretakers of this world. And for the first time in our planets history, a smart, resourceful, fast thinking lifeform has the potential to become the sheppards of this celestial jewel that we all call home.
That said, We have no idea of what we can expect to find in places not meant for us without special devices and equipment to protect us in those dangerous places. But just because we werent meant to go there doesnt mean that we should not go to those places if we have the means to protect ourselves. But we must also take great pains to be as cautious as we can. Our interferrence in things we dont understand can be disasterous. I'm not saying that we should not go, i'm saying lets be ready and careful. With 8 billion ways to die, pick one. But we are humans. We improvise, adapt and overcome, and you cant make an omlet without breaking a few eggs. Not to put a cold spin on the harsh reality of life and death, but in the grande scheme of things, a few casualties that better the whole overall is the greatest sacrifice anyone could ever make for their fellow man. Those that dare to dream, those that dare to go, those that dare to fight, are the ones we dare to lose the most of. The candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long. I know it's sad, and we feel the losses of those closest to us, but celebrate their lives and their acomplishments, and remember those that had the courage to stand up and dare to ask "why", those who charge in and dare you to stop them, or the ones that dare to say "No. enough." We cant all be mindless lemmings following the herd.
I happen to believe that life exhists elsewhere in this universe. You can call me a crackpot wack job all you like, but one need only look at the Drake Equasion to consider how foolish it is to consider that in all the universe that we are the ONLY Sentient life form in exhistance. And if your religeous, Jesus even said when he arose from his tomb and his apostles asked him to stay with them, and he said that he could not, "For i have other flocks to tend." You know it wasnt too long ago that we all believed that the world was flat. As Socratees once said, the only true wisdom is knowing, that you know nothing.


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Posted 07 February 2007 - 01:53 PM

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To quote Newt from Aliens, "My mommy always told me there were no monsters... no real ones, but there are..."

We have barely scratched the surface of our planet, and have only just taken our first wading steps into the beyond that is space, and how nieve and arrogant of us to think that we are the highest evolutionary life form. "Authors Note: See Astro-NUT in Diaper!" But the Sea as well as Space, holds both many beauties, and vast dangers. But, as it was in 1492, where there is great peril, there is also great wealth. Where avarice fails, paitience gains reward. Though we have been to the challenger deep, the trip was basically the equivilant of landing on the moon. It would not surprise me in the least to find some strange marauding aliens of the deep of considerable size with links to prehistoric creatures. If you do any kind of searching on the internet you will see some real life living fossils, that is, creatures thought long extinct being found alive today. "I.E. Coelacanth; Mega Mouth; Frilled Shark." Some species of Wolly Mammoth only missed surviving the Ice Age by only about 1000 years. Granted much speculation exhists on if we drove the species to extinction, but thats another story. Several species have gone extinct unfortunately due to mans involvement in exploring early on, "I.E. R.I.P. Dodo Birds", but with our understanding of the natural world and our newfound enlightenment, perhaps by learning from our mistakes in the past, we can prevent these kinds of catastrophy's in the future. We are the dominant species on the planet, i think it's time that we accept the honor, and the RESPONSIBILITY that the title grants us, and start acting like it. For we are the caretakers of this world. And for the first time in our planets history, a smart, resourceful, fast thinking lifeform has the potential to become the sheppards of this celestial jewel that we all call home.
That said, We have no idea of what we can expect to find in places not meant for us without special devices and equipment to protect us in those dangerous places. But just because we werent meant to go there doesnt mean that we should not go to those places if we have the means to protect ourselves. But we must also take great pains to be as cautious as we can. Our interferrence in things we dont understand can be disasterous. I'm not saying that we should not go, i'm saying lets be ready and careful. With 8 billion ways to die, pick one. But we are humans. We improvise, adapt and overcome, and you cant make an omlet without breaking a few eggs. Not to put a cold spin on the harsh reality of life and death, but in the grande scheme of things, a few casualties that better the whole overall is the greatest sacrifice anyone could ever make for their fellow man. Those that dare to dream, those that dare to go, those that dare to fight, are the ones we dare to lose the most of. The candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long. I know it's sad, and we feel the losses of those closest to us, but celebrate their lives and their acomplishments, and remember those that had the courage to stand up and dare to ask "why", those who charge in and dare you to stop them, or the ones that dare to say "No. enough." We cant all be mindless lemmings following the herd.
I happen to believe that life exhists elsewhere in this universe. You can call me a crackpot wack job all you like, but one need only look at the Drake Equasion to consider how foolish it is to consider that in all the universe that we are the ONLY Sentient life form in exhistance. And if your religeous, Jesus even said when he arose from his tomb and his apostles asked him to stay with them, and he said that he could not, "For i have other flocks to tend." You know it wasnt too long ago that we all believed that the world was flat. As Socratees once said, the only true wisdom is knowing, that you know nothing.

Frilled shark was never thought to be extinct, the megamouth was discovered recently and not known about prior to its recent finding, only the coelocanth was thought to be extinct out of thos 3. The mamoth was a cold adapted animal, it is more likely the loss of habitat due to the ending of the last ice age was responsible for its extinxtion.
However when it comes to deep sea, the only serious danger is pressure as large animals can not survive after a certain depth and all life gets much smaller.

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 02:27 PM

With pressurization, everything gets condensed. The only large creatures that could survive would have to have there internal organs on the outside of the body instead of the inside, so they are not crushed.

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 05:38 PM

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With pressurization, everything gets condensed.


True.

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The only large creatures that could survive would have to have there internal organs on the outside of the body instead of the inside, so they are not crushed.


Not quite.  Deep-sea creatures lack gas- or air-filled cavities in their bodies. Filled with fluids instead of compressible gas, they can withstand pressures better than creatures WITH those cavities. Look at how many soft-bodied animals are found in the extreme depths...

mollusks, worms, jellyfish...and specialized fish and crustaceans without gas cavities.



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Posted 07 February 2007 - 06:08 PM

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True.
Not quite.  Deep-sea creatures lack gas- or air-filled cavities in their bodies. Filled with fluids instead of compressible gas, they can withstand pressures better than creatures WITH those cavities. Look at how many soft-bodied animals are found in the extreme depths...

mollusks, worms, jellyfish...and specialized fish and crustaceans without gas cavities.

But these in general are very small. The molluscs gets the biggest, but that is because the don't have skeletons. Extreme depth animals are still generally very small

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 06:48 PM

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A whale would have to go up for air. If it was that huge, we would see it. Something like a squid, i heard some reason its not possible. I think its a fish. Oh well.


maybe it did go up for air but no one was around to see it... hmm.gif not saying that it is some huge animal or anything but if it is..then..ya know...

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 06:54 PM

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But these in general are very small. The molluscs gets the biggest, but that is because the don't have skeletons. Extreme depth animals are still generally very small


Right. I don't mean to undermine you Big Daddy, I bet you know a lot more about aqua life then myself. I just assume in order for anything to make a large enough audible sound, it would have to some more of a physical form, with a bone structure with cartilage then that of a gas form. Once again I assume Mattshark, or you Big Daddy know more, Im just re-calling from what I remember in College biology :-).

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 07:59 PM

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But these in general are very small. The molluscs gets the biggest, but that is because the don't have skeletons. Extreme depth animals are still generally very small


It's my understanding that small size is more indicative of the available food, rather than the depth or temperature of the water.


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Posted 07 February 2007 - 08:07 PM

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It's my understanding that small size is more indicative of the available food, rather than the depth or temperature of the water.

Pressure and skeletons tend not to mix very well either, small size is food related to, but for a vertebrate their is nedd to reduce the skeleton du to its rigidity causing issue with pressure.

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 11:45 PM

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Pressure and skeletons tend not to mix very well either, small size is food related to, but for a vertebrate their is nedd to reduce the skeleton du to its rigidity causing issue with pressure.


That makes sense.  Sharks are mostly cartilage instead of bone.  There have been sizable sharks recorded at great depth.


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Posted 08 February 2007 - 01:58 AM

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That makes sense.  Sharks are mostly cartilage instead of bone.  There have been sizable sharks recorded at great depth.

But even the ones at depth still do not generally dwell below 3km. When you  get below there thing get long (like worms), but mass decreases greatly.

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