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#76    Luci

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Posted 02 October 2008 - 05:43 AM

Immortal is not a description of the physical body.

There are alot of things written to describe it. It's in pieces. Put all of the pieces together and you find that it's your spirit that is immortal.


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Posted 02 October 2008 - 06:07 AM

I am immortal. I have inside me blood of kings.

I live forever. No man can be my equal!

Also, there can be only one.

But I can teach YOU how to achieve immortality. You just have to sign up for my 7 week course. It costs $2000 USD. I also offer an advanced course for $5000.

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Posted 02 October 2008 - 10:34 PM

I don't know about immortals but I do know about certain avatars in India who were said to live more than a hundred years.
One even had 35-year old body at a stunning age of 100+ yrs old. Politicians and certain Elite families of India
had been visiting this guru for guidance for decades, where one grandson once remembered his grandfather taking
him there when he was very young, and when he visited the guru as a politician, the master still looked 30+.

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Posted 02 October 2008 - 11:02 PM

cool.gif Where do we think we  are at today?

5 years ago....

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The key to immortality may be in our genes. Already in the US a research team has managed to double the life span of a nematode worm by silencing a gene involved in ageing. As we age, the chromosomes in our cells get shorter. At a certain point they stop dividing, our skin sags and muscles and bone weaken. But a US company has developed an enzyme that reverses the ageing process in cells, rebuilding the ends of the chromosomes and restoring them to their youthful length.

Couple stem cell research with chromosome repair, disease eradication and early detection of predisposition to disease and it's easy to see how Darcy's generation may be able the thumb its nose at death.

However, more conservative scientists say such speculation is fanciful. "It's true that this is an extremely exciting time (in science), there's no doubt about that, but we have to be careful not to get too carried away," says Dawn Gleeson, a senior lecturer in genetics at Melbourne University.

"I think it's dangerous to suggest we are anywhere near achieving immortality."

But celebrity scientist and author, Karl Kruszelnicki, disagrees. "Some people living today could be the first generation to live forever, or the last generation to die," he says in the book Flying Lasers, Robofish and Cities of Slime - and other brain-bending science moments.


. disgust.gif ..but today we read that this generation has a lower life expectancy due to how we messed up our food chain...pollutants..

http://www.ourstolenfuture.org/


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http://www-biology.ucsd.edu/~msaier/earthe..._Pollution.html  The bodies of Americans carry an array of toxins derived from plastics, cosmetics, food additives, and even pesticides banned decades ago. Importantly, fetuses, infants and young children contain much higher levels than do adults. Researchers believe that these pollutants can permanently alter a child's intelligence, memory, motor skills, behavior, and immune system. Organophosphate pesticides, for example, present in bug bombs and lawn sprays, have been shown to cause abnormal brain development, and many of these compounds are present in children's brains at more than twice the levels found in adults! Since children eat, drink and breathe three times as much as adults on a weight basis, these statistics are not entirely unexpected.

         Although DDT was banned for use as a pesticide back in the 1970s, it can still be found in the bodies of American children. This long-lasting compound remains unaltered for decades in the soil, from which it can be accumulated by plants, and then concentrated by grazing animals. Since DDT and other poisons have been found to increase the incidence of cancer in adults, the danger to young children may be of major concern.

         The problem of chemical pollution has recently been elevated to a new level of concern as a result of genetic engineering. Genetically modified plant crops are already being used to provide food for the burgeoning human population, currently increasing at the incredible rate of 250,000 people per day. To counteract the costly effects of pests on crops, genes encoding pesticides have been introduced. At a recent meeting of entomologists, it was noted that some genetically engineered crops exude 10-20 times the amounts of toxins contained in conventional bug sprays. These chemicals kill beneficial insects such as bees and ladybugs and inhibit the growth of beneficial soil microorganisms, such as those that provide natural nitrogen fertilizer by fixing nitrogen in root nodules of alfalfa, peas and beans. Finally, these toxic agents harm the insect-eating birds that were the traditional sources of pest control before mankind decided to "improve" upon Nature.

         Some environmental chemicals have been shown to mimic the normal hormonal responses of the human body, causing suppressed immunity, inhibited brain development and feminization of boys. Comparable effects have been documented in wild animal populations. It seems likely that such chemicals will prove to affect a major part of the biosphere upon which we depend. The prospects are ominous to say the least.



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Posted 02 October 2008 - 11:44 PM

Aging is just another biological engineering problem now, due to telomeres in the replication of our genes. Cancer cells have very high  telomere activity, and increasing that activity controls the aging of humans.

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 12:51 AM

laugh.gif back to my favourite... Vitamin C!!!!

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Actually youth seekers need look no further than the vitamin shelf at local stores for a well substantiated. anti-aging compound vitamin C. While researchers attempt to make careers out of their research and thus delay any conclusions indefinitely, vitamin C may be the anti-aging miracle humanity can begin to use today. The story is not new, it's just not been widely told.

Humans have the capacity to live for hundreds of years

The good news is that there is scientific evidence that humans have the capacity to lengthen their average life span by hundreds of years. The evidence for vitamin C as a key anti-aging agent is compelling and rooted in the genetic makeup of humans. All humans are mutants. Homo sapiens, guinea pigs, monkeys, bats, some fish and many birds, do not produce their own vitamin C. The rest of the animal kingdom synthesizes their own vitamin C. For them, ascorbic acid is a hormone, not a dietary-acquired vitamin. Animals employ different organs to produce vitamin C. Some birds and reptiles use their kidneys and perching birds and mammals make vitamin C in their liver.5

Humans once made vitamin C in their liver by the production of four enzymes which convert circulating sugars into ascorbic acid (vitamin C). Humans today only make 3 of the 4 enzymes required to convert glucose (sugar) into ascorbic acid. A progressive mutation at some time in past generations deactivated the gene for the enzyme gulonolactone oxidase and slowly as the mutation progressed the synthesis of vitamin C came to an end in humans.

Mammals who make their own vitamin C can live 8-10 times beyond their age of physical maturity. Mammals without this ability have a difficult time reaching 3-4 times. Researchers believe the reinstallation of the gulonolactone oxidase enzyme in humans would extend the lifespan to hundreds of years.





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Posted 03 October 2008 - 01:09 AM

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So.. a healthy functioning liver and glucose.. are the key to longevity?


Does that support the idea that fake sugars can age you?    may destroy... shorten the telomeres
as it doesn't have the chemical requirements for conversion to vitamin C?
What does fake sugar convert into?

does it inhibit the absorbtion production of Vitamin C??

Can't find any research on it.....



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Posted 05 October 2008 - 09:57 AM

100's of years? Doubtful.

And even if that were true, the global elite would never allow a "commoner" that sort of "privilege", as population control and reduction is one of the key elements to their agenda.

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Posted 23 September 2009 - 09:08 PM

Yes, immortality is possible.
It's uncommon, but possible.
I'm glad that I now have some evidence.
It is possible for some people to resurrect another.
Thank you for this interesting post.
I love it when someone proves a point I've been arguing for ages   :yes:

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Posted 23 September 2009 - 09:12 PM

View PostThe Angelic Demon, on 23 September 2009 - 09:08 PM, said:

Yes, immortality is possible.
It's uncommon, but possible.
I'm glad that I now have some evidence.
It is possible for some people to resurrect another.
Thank you for this interesting post.
I love it when someone proves a point I've been arguing for ages   :yes:

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You have evidence?  Can you provide it?

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 01:13 AM

View PostHerNibs, on 23 September 2009 - 09:12 PM, said:

You have evidence?  Can you provide it?

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I was thinking that because cells in the human body on reproduce a limited number of times, when the keep going it is called cancer.

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 01:53 AM

View PostMattshark, on 24 September 2009 - 01:13 AM, said:

I was thinking that because cells in the human body on reproduce a limited number of times, when the keep going it is called cancer.


Gah, hopefully no one produces cancer as evidence but you do have a point.

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 04:16 PM

View PostHerNibs, on 24 September 2009 - 01:53 AM, said:

Gah, hopefully no one produces cancer as evidence but you do have a point.

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Think about it. What makes it so impossible, Nibs? The human mind and consciousness is nothing more than extremely complex combinations of a huge number of atoms and atomic processes. Since the universe is infinite in time, all of these complex combinations of atoms and atomic processes (i.e. that which makes humans) will occur as different variants an infinite number of times, simply due to pure random chance. Therefore how is it not possible that a human can live infinitely, or even give their life to another.. did you ever study Chemistry? One substance gives the other ions, while it gains ions. Think of our bodies and lives as chemical arrangements- that is all they really are.
Thank my Chemistry teacher for that one.

Also, try to explain how Jesus was resurrected if it was  not possible.

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 04:23 PM

View PostThe Angelic Demon, on 24 September 2009 - 04:16 PM, said:

Think about it. What makes it so impossible, Nibs? The human mind and consciousness is nothing more than extremely complex combinations of a huge number of atoms and atomic processes. Since the universe is infinite in time, all of these complex combinations of atoms and atomic processes (i.e. that which makes humans) will occur as different variants an infinite number of times, simply due to pure random chance. Therefore how is it not possible that a human can live infinitely, or even give their life to another.. did you ever study Chemistry? One substance gives the other ions, while it gains ions. Think of our bodies and lives as chemical arrangements- that is all they really are.

We aren't infinite.  We die.  Our bodies run down.  The cells deteriorate.  We die.

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Thank my Chemistry teacher for that one.

I wouldn't.

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Also, try to explain how Jesus was resurrected if it was  not possible.

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It's a myth.  No one has risen from the dead.

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 04:39 PM

View PostHerNibs, on 24 September 2009 - 04:23 PM, said:

No one has risen from the dead.

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Do you have proof?
Were you there?
And are you really going to so readily dismiss something the whole Christian faith is based on?
I'm not a Christian btw.
But I'm not about to readily dismiss their beliefs.
Especially when I see no reason why it is not believable.
Call me crazy if you wish, and my Chemistry teacher for putting it in my head.
But as I cannot change your mind, you cannot change ours.
It's logically and scientifically possible.

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