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#1    SilverCougar

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 08:59 AM

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews....xml&src=rss


Read!  *is to tired to do all that fancy shmancy stuff*

However, I will say this...

There are more then just one intelligent animal on this planet...  it's time we start treating other animals like they were nothing more for our use and abuse.

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 12:01 PM

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There are more then just one intelligent animal on this planet...  it's time we start treating other animals like they were nothing more for our use and abuse.



which animals should we treat equally then?
believe it or not we are in fact the superior race on this planet.
alternatives are sought to minimilize animaluse/abuse...this takes time if we don't want this to effect us or slow/limit our evolution/way of life.

Don't get me wrong, im not pro animal-abuse. On the contrary.


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Posted 27 November 2006 - 12:14 PM

That's the problem, though, SC...

Genesis 1:26

"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

...some people feel that it's their god-given right to do whatever they want with other animal species...

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 01:20 PM

in my observation i think that dolphins are smarter than us in some was for one they can produce and process sound on a level that we can never hope to acheve


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Posted 27 November 2006 - 01:27 PM

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in my observation i think that dolphins are smarter than us in some was for one they can produce and process sound on a level that we can never hope to acheve


that's like saying we're more intelligent cuz we produce sounds they don't understand.

Dolphins are not that smart is they are hyped to be.
If they would trully be highly intelligent, then why the hell does a goldfish feel the urge faster to escape from it's bowl then a dolphin out a tank? The barriers are low enough for a dolphin to jump over.
Wanting freedom is a sign of intelligence, dolphins do not want this or so it seems. Either they are plotting a major war or they are just ... well, dumb.



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Posted 27 November 2006 - 06:10 PM

Or maybe they feel the need to socialize and communicate with us.

Tell me.. what other animal helps people out in the ocean?  Why do sailors revere them so highly?  Pecause dolphins have been known to come out of their way to keeps humans that have fallen into the waters above the surface and help them to shore.  I don't see other animal doing that.

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 07:06 PM

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If they would trully be highly intelligent, then why the hell does a goldfish feel the urge faster to escape from it's bowl then a dolphin out a tank? The barriers are low enough for a dolphin to jump over.
Wanting freedom is a sign of intelligence, dolphins do not want this or so it seems.


Dolphins do not want to escape to freedom, so that means they're not intelligent?

That makes no sense at all.


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Posted 28 November 2006 - 12:30 AM

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one they can produce and process sound on a level that we can never hope to acheve

That doesn't equate to intelligence. It equates to adaptation to their environment. They evolved that as a tool to locate prey while we evolved a superior "brain power" as our tool.

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Posted 28 November 2006 - 02:55 PM

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...some people feel that it's their god-given right to do whatever they want with other animal species...


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Posted 30 November 2006 - 12:53 AM

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Dolphins do not want to escape to freedom, so that means they're not intelligent?

That makes no sense at all.


i did not write they are not intelligent i wrote : they are not as intelligent as they are hyped to be.


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Posted 30 November 2006 - 01:20 AM

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i did not write they are not intelligent i wrote : they are not as intelligent as they are hyped to be.


Regardless, I just don't see how the desire for freedom can be associated with intelligence in any case.


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Posted 30 November 2006 - 11:05 AM

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Regardless, I just don't see how the desire for freedom can be associated with intelligence in any case.


you have got to be kidding me..


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Posted 30 November 2006 - 06:11 PM

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you have got to be kidding me..


No, I'm not.

Which animals, besides humans, make you think it's true?


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Posted 03 December 2006 - 09:29 AM

Well those animals have survived for millions of years so they can't be that stupid.

As for dolphins not wanting to be out in the wild, would you pass up an easy meal?

Hmm, having to hunt for food or having it given to you, what to choose?

Thats a tough one.  rolleyes.gif

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Posted 15 December 2006 - 12:20 PM

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Well those animals have survived for millions of years so they can't be that stupid.

As for dolphins not wanting to be out in the wild, would you pass up an easy meal?

Hmm, having to hunt for food or having it given to you, what to choose?

Thats a tough one.  rolleyes.gif


wow, don't you think you're giving them waaay too much credit now??

So according to you dolphins are so smart that they realise leaving the tank for more space equals no easy feeding time. Also they know, according to you, that there is something to hunt. Even if they spent their hole lifetime in a tank with same species. Ok they get fish, but how do they know that fish is something that's in the sea?
And if they're so smart to know that they're passing an easy meal if they go out, then why don't they just go out for a lil while a come back when it's feeding time? They're sooo intelligent right? They won't even try, so tame, so simpleminded.

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