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#1    rezna

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Posted 08 December 2006 - 06:49 PM

"Out in the middle of the wine-dark sea there is a land called Crete, washed by the sea on every side; and in it are many peoples and ninety cities. There, one language mingles with another... Among the cities is Knossos... "

I've seen numerous documentaries claiming that they've discovered Atlantis, it had to be the Minoans on Crete.  Almost every single one claims this.  Then why would Plato say what Crete is and not call it Atlantis?  Why would he describe it like this quote does?  If Atlantis and Crete are the same place, he would not have said the above quote.

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Posted 09 December 2006 - 09:09 AM

well generally it is because atlantis is allegory made up by plato, to represent a point in his story. he even states this. why do you people think that there is more to the story? there is no other evidence for anyplace called "atlantis" .

although there was around the black sea a civilization from which the thracian ancestors were part of. their burial mounds are still being found and dug up. you can google it if youd like. they were great metal smiths, the thracians. it is suspected that the civilization around the black sea was inundated when the bosphorus straits gave way and the sea rushed in, and the dates are by no means known, possibly at the end of the last ice age melt off.maybe 7000bc? it is also known that the ancient sumerians came from the north over the mountains, from their own quasi mythology-history. they maybe came from the "flood" that washed away the black sea inhabitants. everyone knows that there is not enough water to cover the earth in a giant biblical flood, so the flood was more of a local event, of which the sumerians recorded in their mythology.

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Posted 10 December 2006 - 02:26 AM

Well there is enough evidence out there to put Atlantis on the map once and for all.

Linguistic evidence -
Atlan / Atlántepec is the ancient name for Mexico. Quite likely this was Atlantis (The Gulf of Mexico was once dry land)

Hard evidence suggests that Sanskrit is the father of most world-class languages. If we use Sanskrit to explain the true meaning of "Atlantis," we'll learn that the initial A means "Not; No longer." The final Tis derives from the Sanskrit Desa, Des, or Tes, meaning "Nation." Atlantis = "No-Longer-the-'Tlan'-or-'Tollán'-Nation." When A-Tlan-Tis sank under the ocean named after it, it certainly ceased to exist. However, the westernmost extreme of Atlantis, which is Mexico, is still above water. It continues to be Tollán or Tlan.

The Nahuatl word for "Water" is Atl. Perhaps it evolved from the Atala meaning "Not-Surface." Therefore, for the Mesoamericans, Atlán came to mean "Nation of Water," also "from, in, into, on, or through the water." Atlanteca = "People of the Water Nation." The ancient Indians and the Nahuatl-speaking tribes in the Americas shared the same word for "Hill; Mountain:" Skt. Tepe; Nahuatl, Tepetl/Tepec. The early Mexicans also used it as an epithet of "Region." Although I have no proof of this, the real name of Atlantis could have been Atlántepec.
More on this at http://atlantis.onestop.net/atlantis-in-mexico.html

Platos directions-
And if you follow Plato's own description of where Atlantis is located, he says its a place far away in the atlantic ocean, opposite the strait of gibraltar. The Strait of Gibraltar is the strait that divides Spain from Morocco. If you travel through it and thus to the opposite side and continue until you reach another continent you end up in South America.
More at http://atlantis.onestop.net/america-atlantis.html

Physical evidence-
As allready mentioned above, parts of Mexico is now under water, completely in accordance with the Atlantis legend. In addition Atlantis is supposed to be a place of great achivements and high technology. This fits perfectly with ancient latin americas - all the wonders there we still cant explain how they did. It is possible some atlanteans migrated to other parts in the world, such as Egypt, after the destruction of Atlantis. Related- ancient egyptian stone technology: http://atlantis.onestop.net/ancient-egypti...technology.html
Technology of the Gods (Video) - http://atlantis.onestop.net/videos/technol...f-the-gods.html

Interesting research by Jim Allen also makes the Andes a good candidate for Atlantis:
“The continent of Atlantis is still there opposite the Pillars of Hercules (Strait of Gibraltar) only now it has been re-named South America. The part which sank was a small volcanic island which sank into a large inland sea in the centre of the continent.”

He also comments, “People sometimes say; ‘How can Atlantis be in the Andes when it is supposed to have sunk into the sea?’ We must remember that Atlantis according to Plato was on a level plain "high above the level of the sea and surrounded by mountains". In fact the entire plain has been periodically submerged beneath the sea i.e. it became a giant inland sea at various dates going back thousands of years succeeded by dry periods.
More evidence for this theory at http://atlantis.onestop.net/atlantis-andes.html
And his documentary: http://www.dark-truth.org/okt272006-311-atlantis-andes.html

So to put it short, to me its almost no doubt that Latin Americas was Atlantis, with Mexico probably being the location of the main city/capital. Atlantis was a large continent, and its civilization was probably wide spread through it (from Mexico and down the rest of south america, and the evidence for this lost civilization is all over, Macchu Picchu is one example in Peru)

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Posted 11 December 2006 - 10:50 AM

It was Crete. When you see a hoof print in the mud you look for a horse not a zebra. The main body of Atlantis evidence points at either the Canary Islands or Crete. Anywhere far over an ocean is just speculation. Those people in far off places had a high degree of civilization and were very powerful, but Atlantis was linked to Greece and they spoke Greek, I believe.

It was Crete.

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Posted 20 December 2006 - 02:19 PM

TANTALUS was once thought to have ruled an earthly kingdom. It's center was the city founded at Mount Sipylus, in the gold-rich coutry of Lydia. when Tantalus fell from favor (for either serving up his son in a stew for the Gods or stealing Ambrosia), his city was shatered and swallowed by a massive earthquake, then drowned beneath a lake. The name of the city was TANTALIS.
There is a remarkable resemblance between Tantalis and Atlantis. Both were a fabulously rich city favored by the gods that fell from grace and were destroyed by Earthquake and flood
Tantalis was a Lydian story and was known to the courts when Solon (Plato's ancester, who first told the tale) visited the King of Lydia in about 570 B.C. The Greek historian, Herodotus described their meeting, saying that the two swapped stories.
As the story was passed down, the name could have mistakenly been changed to Atlantis.



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Posted 20 December 2006 - 03:54 PM

Well it all depends on what you believe on this topic realy. Did Atlantis really exist or was it just a fablous story told through the ages. Now just checked that website out and having not researched fully into these Plato's directons then if this is right and Mexico/South America is really the lcoation of Atlantis i don't believe that to be true. Now i have to admit the factors that give it some water to be held is the Aztecs disappeared alogn with many other advanced cultures like those who supposedly lived in the Amazon Rain forest and so on. And to be honest i can see why it would be believe this place held the arguement, and i probably agree more with this beign Atlantis than Crete or the Canary Islands as they hold very little proof to ever holding a advance civilisation.

But the question is this Atlantis if it did exist and it got took out by a earth even earthquake volocano etc whose to say it wasn't the first signs of an attack on earth as we were getting powerful?

Still Atlantis for me isn't crete, americas or the carany islands it's somewere out there not sure were but it is. But whose to say it was on Earth....


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Posted 21 December 2006 - 06:55 PM

crete was more into bulls then lione like in egypt ,this is close but the early settalars of crete would have bine the survivers of atlantis.

but still this is just a peice of the puzzle you must go further back in time to come to atlantis and crete is inside the pillars not outside.

now in egypt we see the lione in crete the bull were at do we have the eagle and the face because they all have to be present when you come to atlantis.


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Posted 21 December 2006 - 09:37 PM

there were no way how Plato could know about America and the civilitation over there. And none of the pre columbian civilitation never reached Europe and the mediterran. No for me Atlantis was just a myth, as others pointed out, a allegory...and this was confermed by Plato (why should we belive Plato about A. but not when he confess the allegory?) IMO many people WANT TO BELIVE about Atlantis, that's why they build in their mind every kind of connection around the world with the lost continent.

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Posted 22 December 2006 - 12:54 AM

he might of not known it as america by name more like an eagle ,look at north america on google earth it looks like a larg eagle.


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Posted 22 December 2006 - 01:41 AM

I'm not seeing an eagle when looking at North America

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Posted 22 December 2006 - 01:44 AM

Iunno if Atlantis exists or whatever, but Edgar Cayce said that Atlantis would resurface sometime in the 60's(I think he said 1969? Not sure). Well, the year he said Atlantis would resurface, Bimini Road resurfaced.

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Posted 22 December 2006 - 12:26 PM

Well Atlantis did exist, to what extent or to where it exisisted is up for arguement. For me Atlantis might be what once was a great continent/island. But theres no evidence to back that up only that Plato wrote about it, maybe liek i said in my previous post Atlantis is off world, and whose to say the 'earth' isn't Atlantis....


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Posted 24 December 2006 - 12:59 PM

that chamber that edgar speaks of in my eyes from what the shadows tell me that lie beneth the sphinx and pyamids is more of a time of atlantis .

being below was carved out of the bedrock,and the rock in that spot shows a good example of how the atlantean peaple could carve out a place called home.


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Posted 24 December 2006 - 02:27 PM

from one of those Freemasons book's..

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Posted 04 January 2007 - 07:22 PM

eygpt is not the place to find atlantis but the time to find atlantis in place at that time.

it was atlantian preast that took the knowledge and dictated to the tribes that were in the area at the time.

but the head the cap stone which is the father was cut off and hid from site,when this great disaster accured

leaving these survivers a unik oppertunity to take controlle.

they hid the past of eygpt at that time and made their own version which they called the truth

and today you got three major religons fighting over that crooked truth





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