Do you think...

[Fatal]

If the dinosaurs hadn't been killed off by that meteor long ago, do you think dinosaurs would still be living here on Earth? Or would they have been killed off by something else by now?

[jaylemurph]

Silurians.

They would have become Silurians.

-- Jaylemurph

[Fatal]

Silurians.

They would have become Silurians.

-- Jaylemurph

Dont be stupid...

Edited December 12, 2006 by Shadow09

[The Carnivore]

I doubt it. Anyways, it was most likely not a meteorite that fully caused it.

Edited December 12, 2006 by sadistic jellyfish of doom

[Fatal]

I doubt it. Anyways, it was most likely not a meteorite.

Yea, I guess I can see that. Because I dont see how a meteorite could kill off every single dinosaur...

[WARLOK]

I'm sure man would have killed them off by now, just depends on how good they are to eat!!

[frogfish]

An asteroid alone wasn't the cause of their death, but it certainly was a BIG CATALYST. There is evidence that a large asteroid struck around that time, and probably caused severe geological and climate changes.

I still think dinosaurs would of died out. Their numbers were declining at the end of the Cretaceous. Sauropods were almost extinct BEFORE 65 MYA.

[Bill Hill]

Scientists have theorized that if the dinosaurs survived the K-T event; an intelligent species such as the rapture might have evolved into dinosauroid.

[frogfish]

an intelligent species such as the rapture might

What's a rapture?

Rapture:

1. The state of being transported by a lofty emotion; ecstasy.

2. An expression of ecstatic feeling. Often used in the plural.

3. The transporting of a person from one place to another, especially to heaven

Troodontids were theorized to be the smartest dinosaurs.

Edited December 12, 2006 by frogfish

[ivytheplant]

Scientists have theorized that if the dinosaurs survived the K-T event; an intelligent species such as the rapture might have evolved into dinosauroid.

Holy cow! I've been looking for that picture for years! I tried to explain "dinosaur man" (as presented by Christopher Reeve) to someone and they thought I was making it up.

Hooray! I'm not crazy!

[Shaftsbury]

One of the brainiest dinosaurs we know about at the end of the Cretaceous was Troodon (a.k.a. Stenonychosaurus inequalis) a 1.2-m-tall, 70-kg carnivorous dinosaur with perhaps the intelligence of an opossum. What if Troodon had survived and continued to evolve and get brainier? In the early 1980s, paleontologist Dale Russell, curator of vertebrate fossils at the National Museums of Canada, in Ottowa, explored this possibility.

I went to a lecture by Dale Russell a number of years ago on this topic, quite an interesting discussion.

Source: http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/...saurintell.html

Edited December 13, 2006 by Shaftsbury

[the muffin man]

So, if dinosaurs hadn't died, they'd have evolved into aliens?

[frogfish]

So, if dinosaurs hadn't died, they'd have evolved into aliens

Probably not...

[Shaftsbury]

So, if dinosaurs hadn't died, they'd have evolved into aliens?

Not exactly, If dinosaurs hadn't died out they would probably be sitting here posting in this forum instead of us mammals lol.

[glynne64]

Very interesting thought! I hadn't really thought about it, but I could see the world being a whole different way. I don't think we'd have some of the same creatures we have now, simply cause the dinosaurs would eat them. Give a different thing to worry about other than mountain lion or bear if you were hiking in the woods!

Also would there be a sharp increase in poaching of big game....REALLY BIG GAME!!!

[draconic chronicler]

Not exactly, If dinosaurs hadn't died out they would probably be sitting here posting in this forum instead of us mammals lol.

Possibly, but in some 150 million years of evolution they didn't seem to be getting any smarter, so why would they if we just added another 65 million years? But it is safe to say, that even though some dinosaurs were dying out, many carnivorous ones were still very succesful, and probably would have continued to dominate the world, eating up any mammal larger than a racoon. So it is very probable we would not be here today. Or maybe we would have evolved as miniature humans, hiding underfoot huge predatory dinosaurs, surviving only becasue we weren't worth eating becasue of our diminutive size.

[when.i.am.queen.]

Not exactly, If dinosaurs hadn't died out they would probably be sitting here posting in this forum instead of us mammals lol.

maybe we would have evolved as miniature humans, hiding underfoot huge predatory dinosaurs, surviving only becasue we weren't worth eating becasue of our diminutive size.

Would there be miniature computers as well? Or would we not have evolved that intelligent?

[GreyWeather]

If the dinosaurs hadn't been killed off by that meteor long ago, do you think dinosaurs would still be living here on Earth? Or would they have been killed off by something else by now?

Doubtful, mammals are more adabt at climate survival - mammals can live in almost any environment on earth, Which reptiles can't really do.

[fantazum]

If the dinosaurs hadn't been killed off by that meteor long ago, do you think dinosaurs would still be living here on Earth? Or would they have been killed off by something else by now?

Here is something that will make you wonder:

"Dinosaurs In History has enlightened many readers to the prospect that millions of years may actually not have separated the two "species," but that they co-existed, often inharmoniously, to the culmination of what we know today as myths and legends of dragons and monsters.

Some evolutionists accept the idea, and some creationists accept the idea. To be more specific, few evolutionists accept the idea, whereas most creationists accept the idea. Why? From the evolutionary perspective, dinosaurs would have had to survive for millions of years, part of which time involved a long and tedious ice age. Not only that, they would have had to do so without undergoing any great deal of evolutionary change. Indeed, if a living apatosaurus today still looks like its fossil grandparents, one question ensues. "Where's the evolution?"

From the creationist perspective, dinosaurs existed with man from the beginning, later dying off from climatic changes and human hunting, until by the time of knights, maidens, and heraldry, only a few stragglers were left.

But let us take you now back to the 15th century to examine a particular tomb. On this tomb, we trust, you will find something quite remarkable.

The Tomb Of Richard Bell

He was bishop at Carlisle until shortly before his death in 1496. His tomb lies underneath a protective carpet along a main aisle of the Carlisle Cathedral (UK), inlaid with brass. Richard Bell, born in 1410, became a monk at the tender age of 16 and would remain so for the next 50 years, during which time he was ordained a priest and earned a degree at Oxford University. Because he was a monk, he was not allowed to write a will, but historians agree that he died in 1496, and date the tomb as such. The brass on the tomb shows Bell, dressed in his vestments, with his bishop's cap and hooked staff.

Mystery In The Brass

Contained in the brass fillet running around the edge of Bell's tomb are two interesting animal engravings. What makes them even more interesting is their placement . . . next to various fish, a dog, an eel, a bird, a pig, a weasel, etc. Whatever creatures they are, the tomb designer clearly intended them to be taken as literally as the other animals carefully portrayed.

The first one shows two animals seemingly engaged in a struggle. The one on the right has a long neck positioned horizontally, much like a sauropod dinosaur (i.e. apatosaurus). Amazingly, paleontologists, only until recently, believed that sauropods held their necks vertically aloft, somewhat similar to the way a giraffe does. Now, popular belief is that they held them horizontally, just as the brass fillet shows. Also, the tail of the animal on the fillet is suspended in the air. Sauropod reconstructions only up until recently portrayed the tails as lying lazily on the ground. Yet again, the fillet was correct.

The animal on the left possesses appendages near the end of its tail that resemble large spikes. As most any kindergartner could tell you, the stegosaurus also sported spikes, while the ankylosaurus had a large clubbed tail. Both animals portrayed in the brass, in fact, may have had spiked tails, but the one on the right unfortunately had its worn away.

The other engraving on the tomb also seems to be unlike any animal alive today. It is worn, but one still can discern a well-defined head and mouth that appear similar to those of a crocodile. Unlike a crocodile, however, the legs are large, allowing the creature to stand in the same way a hippopotamus can stand. What is it? We don't know, but it does seem to resemble a large, reptilian creature that could be a type of dinosaur. Impossible? Illogical?

Perhaps we should have a brief review of what we've learned.

1. The creatures were portrayed next to known, living animals

2. The neck of the sauropod was held horizontally, not raised aloft

3. The tail of the sauropod was suspended, not lying on the ground

Could they, in the 15th century, have known of such creatures from fossils, and decided to portray them on their tombs, walls, etc? Although it is possible, it is highly improbable. Until Richard Owen invented the name "dinosaur" in 1841, only a few scientists were aware of their existence. True, large bones had been found before the 19th century, but they were never scientifically categorized. Furthermore, how could they have known to place the neck of the animal horizontally, or suspend the tail above the ground? Lucky guesses? Most unlikely. Rather, the evidence suggests that they were eye-witnesses.

It is interesting to note that males of some long-necked animals, such as the giraffe, engage in tests of strength by "necking." They do so to establish dominance, whereby they have access to breeding females. As we can clearly tell from the brass engravings, these creatures were engaged in something very similar. Amazingly, Bell's tomb isn't the only artifact that shows two long-necked creatures vying for dominance in this manner. An ancient Roman mosaic, dated around the 2nd century A.D. (shown above-right), portrays the exact same behavior. Coincidence? You be the judge.

Conclusion

Coincidence. Is it all lucky coincidence? Logic tells us otherwise, desperately crying out for the minds of the masses to reconsider what they've been taught . . . what they've grown up believing and have always believed for as long as they can remember. Dinosaurs with man? Could it be true? Is it possible? We've done our best to share the facts, and now it's time for you to decide."

Source: http://www.trueauthority.com/dinosaurs/engraved.htm

To see the pictures of the engravings: http://www.trueauthority.com/dinosaurs/engraved.htm

And remember; the engravings were made 2 centuries before real evidence had been found of the existance of Dinosaurs.

[when.i.am.queen.]

Hmm you have got some good evidence, but I still find it hard to believe

[frogfish]

Logic tells us otherwise

No, logic, science, and reasoning tells us dinosaurs have been dead.

[trickyhomunculi]

I'm sure man would have killed them off by now, just depends on how good they are to eat!!

Hahaha........or for fashion

Edited January 14, 2007 by clover

[ivytheplant]

So, if dinosaurs hadn't died, they'd have evolved into aliens?

I saw that episode of Star Trek: Voyager. As I recall, the dinosaurs didn't like the idea that they came from our planet and summarily suppressed all research that proved otherwise.

[Bone_Collector]

What's a rapture?

I think he meant Raptor.

It's hard to say what they would've looked like today but had they existed today, they would've evolved into a much smaller size; there's no way these huge creatures could've found so much food for so long on Earth.

[kobie]

there was a small dinosaur found that showed the same qualities and future evolutionary brain pattern growth as we do....this would of probably evolved into a similar homosaphian yet it was half avian reptile so i would of took a dis-simular feature.