[SometimesMaybe]

Stneo_of_Light, on 22 December 2006 - 07:27 PM, said:

This may not be in the right spot but, I don't know if anyone has experinced this or thought this but, are demons really evil at all? I think that most are not because I have been having weird dreams lately over the past year or so where i am in a room with 1 or 2 people and they tell me their names and they tell me things about me being of a great importance in the world. They were nice and they looked like normal people but they told me they were demons. This is weird because in one dream i guess i had known the person and we confronted each other. His name in the dream was Mitch and he told me that we were friends along time ago and that he was leaving forever and we would never be able to speak to each other again. Then he gave me 2 coins and he walked away down a dark street and disappeared, then i woke up. I'm not sure what any of it meant but it did kind of upset me though as though there was a attachment there that was unexplainable. After that i had begun to see the world in a new way, that the things that we think are evil, aren't.

I can only report the activities my closest friends and relatives have had, since I haven't seen/witnessed any paranormal activity since childhood... but my best friend [who I'm mentioned in several threads already] had experience with a demonic figure. It was in broad daylight and sitting on top of her car in a parking lot. She was with her friend, but they didn't see it. She reported and intense feeling of misery, and all of her energy felt drained, like she got weak in the knees and dizzy. She described it as a child sized black being with long arms crossed over it's head. It was NOT nice. That was the only paranormal experience that scared her senseless and gave her actual physical negative results.

As a note of proof. We were chatting with a male friend of ours at my college who she'd never discussed the paranormal with before... he was an ex dabbler in the "black arts", and an ex coven member. While my friend saw peaceful entities usually, he saw demonic ones. He described the exact same vision of a demon before she mentioned it. A child-sized demon with arms crossed like an X over it's head. They had both seen one.

[Danr]

demonic presence, on 23 December 2006 - 12:37 AM, said:

actually the original demons, daemons, or whatever you want to call them were friendly spirits that gave advice and carried messages for the gods, there are many different opinions on what demons are and if they are evil or good, but if you look back in history many if the different cultures had things that resemble demons and only a few of them were considered evil, the word demon was corrupted in modern use and is now used as a word to represent evil spirits or creatures living in Hell

Precisely, I tend to think of good or neutral demons as simply non divine non human entities, were as I think of evil demons, that is, what people these days usually mean when they say demon, as a fiend, or an infernal/diabolical entity, in other words a being in the service of Evil.

[Paranormalcy]

I rather doubt ex coven and occult members are the most reliable people to ask if "demons" exist, if you want an actual objective answer. Still, it sounds weird. But the only thing that happened, after all, was your friend got all kinds of physical and emotional symptoms, felt sick, weak, whatever else - but there were people WITH her at the time, and they didn't see anything. That speaks volumes, as I've never come across anything yet, that I've pointed to something five feet away and the people with me went "What? I don't see anything."

[SometimesMaybe]

Paranormalcy, on 02 November 2009 - 03:25 AM, said:

I rather doubt ex coven and occult members are the most reliable people to ask if "demons" exist, if you want an actual objective answer. Still, it sounds weird. But the only thing that happened, after all, was your friend got all kinds of physical and emotional symptoms, felt sick, weak, whatever else - but there were people WITH her at the time, and they didn't see anything. That speaks volumes, as I've never come across anything yet, that I've pointed to something five feet away and the people with me went "What? I don't see anything."

She is sensitive to that sort of thing, and the other girl isn't. Simple as that. Some people are just naturally in tune with the paranormal. This whole forum sort of proves that.

[Agent. Mulder]

Stneo_of_Light, on 23 December 2006 - 12:27 AM, said:

This may not be in the right spot but, I don't know if anyone has experinced this or thought this but, are demons really evil at all? I think that most are not because I have been having weird dreams lately over the past year or so where i am in a room with 1 or 2 people and they tell me their names and they tell me things about me being of a great importance in the world. They were nice and they looked like normal people but they told me they were demons. This is weird because in one dream i guess i had known the person and we confronted each other. His name in the dream was Mitch and he told me that we were friends along time ago and that he was leaving forever and we would never be able to speak to each other again. Then he gave me 2 coins and he walked away down a dark street and disappeared, then i woke up. I'm not sure what any of it meant but it did kind of upset me though as though there was a attachment there that was unexplainable. After that i had begun to see the world in a new way, that the things that we think are evil, aren't.

well ill be honest, your dreams dont prove anything. you can dream something but it doesnt lend any credence to it. however, as far as the story or idea of demons go, im under the impression it will switch back and forth depending on what religion youre reading at the time. countless religions means countless hypothesis on the demon stories.

[Paul Noise]

Some demons are evil, but some are just merely bad seeds. They just need understanding and a stable enviroment. Education is key and some of these young demons aren't given the same chances and opportunities as more privileged demons. It's a cycle of hate and vilolence that perpetuates itself and until we stand up and draw attention to this plight, it will continue. People don't understand, these young demons want to succeed, they just don't feel that they are expected to do well, and so they only rise to meet our expectations. Were are the demon parents? Who's taking responsibility for these young impressionable demons? No one. They are getting their morals from the streets and the lake of fire, not in good demon homes and schools. That's why we have started a program for young demons to come and serve their communities, and learn values, and gain a support system. Our group, Doesn't Anyone Notice The Evil?, or DANTE, we hope to turn these misguided youths away from their lives of lying to humans through Ouija boards and turning on computer moniters, and back to grass roots community activities. Thanks for all your time.

[commonsense]

LMAO! Can I be the first member of DANTE?

[tinieblas]

Demons, like other noncorporial entitities , are separate to our whole idea of good and evil...such concepts are tied into emotions, which are of the body, not of the spirit.....so no, they are not evil; they are amoral from our point of view because, being immortal, they are not subject to the same things as we are......I've encountered one or two possibly demonic entities and do not consider them evil myself; simply alien and beyond our experience and understanding.

[Paul Noise]

commonsense, on 04 November 2009 - 06:30 PM, said:

LMAO! Can I be the first member of DANTE?

Done. Welcome.

[dorto]

demons, if you dont know already are masters of disguise and can trick anyone to think anything. they can make you have pity on them or help them etc.. they know your deep ways and your fears and wants so they work off of that. they could transform into a lost cat and show up on an animal activists doorstep looking like a cat that needs help.

they like to appear nice and kind but really they are not. they say demons can appear as angels of light, they can evben do things to make you happy untill they finally catch you and destroy you. they can perform certain "miracles" for u and then later on destroy you.

they like people fishing and they will use anything as bait and feed you what they think you want till they reel you up

i would not trust a demon, they are liars and scam artists and masters of disguise. they can appear as a helpless child, your daughter, your grandfather, a helpless elderly person, a bunny, jesus, an angel of light

they take on any form and can even get the same voice

they are imposters

and they are all evil, they just know how to make nice with people and kiss up to them

[Agent. Mulder]

dorto, on 05 November 2009 - 11:42 PM, said:

demons, if you dont know already are masters of disguise and can trick anyone to think anything. they can make you have pity on them or help them etc.. they know your deep ways and your fears and wants so they work off of that. they could transform into a lost cat and show up on an animal activists doorstep looking like a cat that needs help.

who says demons can shape shift and take on the physical form of a biological being?

dorto, on 05 November 2009 - 11:42 PM, said:

they like to appear nice and kind but really they are not. they say demons can appear as angels of light, they can evben do things to make you happy untill they finally catch you and destroy you. they can perform certain "miracles" for u and then later on destroy you.

...any proof of these demons? by any chance.

dorto, on 05 November 2009 - 11:42 PM, said:

i would not trust a demon, they are liars and scam artists and masters of disguise. they can appear as a helpless child, your daughter, your grandfather, a helpless elderly person, a bunny, jesus, an angel of light

again, how can a spirit turn itself into flesh and blood to take on the form of a biological being?

dorto, on 05 November 2009 - 11:42 PM, said:

and they are all evil, they just know how to make nice with people and kiss up to them

goddamn politics. i mean, demons.

[Mademoiselle de Lioncourt]

Hahaha.

"Proof"

No human being has authentic evidence supporting if they exist or not.
So why say either?
The correct answer is "I don't know.", because most likely you do not know.

(Not every question can be answered until death. You will see the truth when you see the dark, for the light will shine through. Some question, even in the end, may never be answered.)

[Danr]

Paul Noise, on 05 November 2009 - 01:12 PM, said:

Done. Welcome.

Are you guys looking for East cost Rep.'s? We've got a lot of young fiends, incubi, succubi, and even some resurrected Nephilim, that just need a second chance TToTT

[Agent. Mulder]

Lestat said:

Hahaha.

"Proof"

No human being has authentic evidence supporting if they exist or not.
So why say either?
The correct answer is "I don't know.", because most likely you do not know.

(Not every question can be answered until death. You will see the truth when you see the dark, for the light will shine through. Some question, even in the end, may never be answered.)

i know they have no proof.
so the correct answer is "probably doesnt exist. as you have no evidence for it."

[Paul Noise]

Danr, on 05 November 2009 - 09:56 PM, said:

Are you guys looking for East cost Rep.'s? We've got a lot of young fiends, incubi, succubi, and even some resurrected Nephilim, that just need a second chance TToTT

Dan,

You are now the official president of the East Coast branch of D.A.N.T.E. Welcome.