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#1    SpiritualWhale

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Posted 28 December 2006 - 06:02 AM

Hi, I want to discuss possibility of Whales & Dolphins being the same spiritual beings as humans, just in different bodies. I believe that it is possible that they have organized societies and the role to play on Earth. Well, if you look at this, they live in different environment to ours so they have no need to build houses. If communication is telepathic, then schools are not needed either. Size of their bodies protects them from any danger, except from humans. They are most definitely intelligent.

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Hi Mr Moe, Hi Frogfish

What a bunch of hardheaded scientists!!! I am spiritual Mr Moe. I was like you - only what I can touch and prove physically exists ...until about 2 years ago. My background is in shipbuilding and computers and I never thought that I might think in the way I do. I begun communicating with Spirit several months ago and now I also communicate with Whales & Dolphins ...and no it is not by email... It is telepathy.

If you go to web site - http://au.geocities.com/spiritualwhale/ and skip initial channelled stuff, if you don't like it, you will find that the information there puts completely different spin on things. If you allow different approach to what scientifically can be discovered, you may find things you never thought existed. But this is not going to happen if you make a list of expectations of how Whales should behave and just tick of every time behaviour matched expectations. When you expect certain behaviour you come from information you already have. If Einstein followed this path, theory of relativity, well it would not be here at that time.
If you are religious you most likely believe in Guardian Angels. You go to church and yet - do you think about them when you're having sex? Yes, they are there beside you, happy for you enjoying yourself...

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Posted 29 December 2006 - 03:47 AM

Umm, no whales are whales and people are people. Same deal with dolphins.

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Posted 29 December 2006 - 05:05 AM

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Posted 29 December 2006 - 05:53 AM

SpiritualWhale, are by any chance a vegetarian? innocent.gif

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Posted 29 December 2006 - 11:57 AM

Hi Mr Moe, Hi Frogfish

What a bunch of hardheaded scientists!!! I am spiritual Mr Moe. I was like you - only what I can touch and prove physically exists ...until about 2 years ago. My background is in shipbuilding and computers and I never thought that I might think in the way I do. I begun communicating with Spirit several months ago and now I also communicate with Whales & Dolphins ...and no it is not by email... It is telepathy.

If you go to web site - http://au.geocities.com/spiritualwhale/ and skip initial channelled stuff, if you don't like it, you will find that the information there puts completely different spin on things. If you allow different approach to what scientifically can be discovered, you may find things you never thought existed. But this is not going to happen if you make a list of expectations of how Whales should behave and just tick of every time behaviour matched expectations. When you expect certain behaviour you come from information you already have. If Einstein followed this path, theory of relativity, well it would not be here at that time.
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Posted 29 December 2006 - 08:31 PM

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Hi Mr Moe, Hi Frogfish

What a bunch of hardheaded scientists!!! I am spiritual Mr Moe. I was like you - only what I can touch and prove physically exists ...until about 2 years ago. My background is in shipbuilding and computers and I never thought that I might think in the way I do. I begun communicating with Spirit several months ago and now I also communicate with Whales & Dolphins ...and no it is not by email... It is telepathy.

If you go to web site - http://au.geocities.com/spiritualwhale/ and skip initial channelled stuff, if you don't like it, you will find that the information there puts completely different spin on things. If you allow different approach to what scientifically can be discovered, you may find things you never thought existed. But this is not going to happen if you make a list of expectations of how Whales should behave and just tick of every time behaviour matched expectations. When you expect certain behaviour you come from information you already have. If Einstein followed this path, theory of relativity, well it would not be here at that time.
If you are religious you most likely believe in Guardian Angels. You go to church and yet - do you think about them when you're having sex? Yes, they are there beside you, happy for you enjoying yourself...

As intelligent animals they are, I still do not think they are the same as us "spiritually". Although I am athiest, I did however come from a religous background and some of my relatives have a similair mentality about some animals (including whales and dolphins) and religion as you do.

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Posted 29 December 2006 - 08:53 PM

Whales and dolphins taste just like chicken. Yum.

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Posted 29 December 2006 - 08:53 PM

Whales and dolphins taste just like chicken. Yum.

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Posted 29 December 2006 - 08:54 PM

Whales and dolphins taste just like chicken. Yum.


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Posted 29 December 2006 - 09:40 PM

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Hi Mr Moe, Hi Frogfish

What a bunch of hardheaded scientists!!! I am spiritual Mr Moe. I was like you - only what I can touch and prove physically exists ...until about 2 years ago. My background is in shipbuilding and computers and I never thought that I might think in the way I do. I begun communicating with Spirit several months ago and now I also communicate with Whales & Dolphins ...and no it is not by email... It is telepathy.

If you go to web site - http://au.geocities.com/spiritualwhale/ and skip initial channelled stuff, if you don't like it, you will find that the information there puts completely different spin on things. If you allow different approach to what scientifically can be discovered, you may find things you never thought existed. But this is not going to happen if you make a list of expectations of how Whales should behave and just tick of every time behaviour matched expectations. When you expect certain behaviour you come from information you already have. If Einstein followed this path, theory of relativity, well it would not be here at that time.
If you are religious you most likely believe in Guardian Angels. You go to church and yet - do you think about them when you're having sex? Yes, they are there beside you, happy for you enjoying yourself...


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Posted 29 December 2006 - 11:41 PM

Oh dear, what a complete pile of nonsense. For a start there are many different species of dolphin and there behaviour varies from species to species. The bottlenose, pilot whales and orcas are all large aggressive predators even towards other cetaceans. Pilot whales and bottlenose dolphins are known to have attacked people in the wild at times with out cause, orcas and bottlenoses are known to have attacked many times in captivity. Bottlenoses are not nice friendly spiritual animals, they are 3m long predators and have no problem with attacking other dolphins, people, or even attampting to rape animals of various species (including humans).

Hang on, maybe these ones are:p

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Posted 30 December 2006 - 03:28 AM

I like my meat and potatoes like the next girl, ya know- suppose that makes me no tree hugger. Anyhoo, the poster forgot to add elephants in that spiritual group as well. Whether you believe in a devine creator or not there is still something unique about these animals- They express an essense so unique from other creatures and powerful it leaves us 'know it all humans' in AWE, go figure!!

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Posted 30 December 2006 - 03:32 AM

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I like my meat and potatoes like the next girl, ya know- suppose that makes me no tree hugger. Anyhoo, the poster forgot to add elephants in that spiritual group as well. Whether you believe in a devine creator or not there is still something unique about these animals- They express an essense so unique from other creatures and powerful it leaves us 'know it all humans' in AWE, go figure!!

Yes but elephants arn't at all like humans at all. Like cetacea aren't. This is you personally just liking elephants.

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Posted 30 December 2006 - 06:31 AM

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Yes but elephants arn't at all like humans at all. Like cetacea aren't. This is you personally just liking elephants.


For your information I never thought nothing of elephants until I read studies done on the elephant late last year and watched some footage. NG has gotten filmage of these animals mourning for their lost loved ones. They will pass the remains around in the herd and these elephants are crying literal tears for the deceased of their members! Spiritual? I think it's a possiblity- I couldn't believe what I was seeing- Just recently, it was found that they have the ability to recognize themselves in mirrors... I believe that places them above any other "animal" but an octupus may be able to do that for all I know! Lets not forget the bond b/t the elephant and its herd. A herd destroyed an entire village last year and killed two people in the process.. to find out later some young kids from the same village had killed a baby elephant belonging to that very tribe a day before the attack and left it miles up the river.. the elephants came for their vengence. Typical for a hyena?  This is NOT b/c I "like elephants"..!!  this is b/c I truly feel there is so much more to these creatures than just circus entertainment.  The same goes for dolphins and whales and many others. btw, I "like" rottweilors I don't bounce around how spiritual they are.  w00t.gif

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For your information I never thought nothing of elephants until I read studies done on the elephant late last year and watched some footage. NG has gotten filmage of these animals mourning for their lost loved ones. They will pass the remains around in the herd and these elephants are crying literal tears for the deceased of their members! Spiritual? I think it's a possiblity- I couldn't believe what I was seeing- Just recently, it was found that they have the ability to recognize themselves in mirrors... I believe that places them above any other "animal" but an octupus may be able to do that for all I know! Lets not forget the bond b/t the elephant and its herd. A herd destroyed an entire village last year and killed two people in the process.. to find out later some young kids from the same village had killed a baby elephant belonging to that very tribe a day before the attack and left it miles up the river.. the elephants came for their vengence. Typical for a hyena?  This is NOT b/c I "like elephants"..!!  this is b/c I truly feel there is so much more to these creatures than just circus entertainment.  The same goes for dolphins and whales and many others. btw, I "like" rottweilors I don't bounce around how spiritual they are.  w00t.gif

O' yea, BAN THE CIRCUS!!

I agree circus banning, but such things are already banned in the UK as are dolphinariums. However self recognition is not a signal of actually intelligence in its self remember vision is very commonly not a primary infomation scource for many animals, so hence using it is not suitable for measuring intelligence. Cats and dogs both use smell as there recognition system not vision so that is misleading. It is more down to elephants being diurnal and using thee eyes for infomation gathering. However if you see and elephant at night it is a large lumbering animal that is at risk to lions. No one spouts about lions having a "spiritual link" and they are capable of killing elephants working together. Elephants are intelligent for a herbivore, however this is not spirituality this is a herd animal with strong social links and a well developed brian. However in general, would you want to stand in front of any African elephent bull? I wouldn't because they are dangerous animals. The mourning is also not something unique domestic dogs have a great llink to there owners, this is because of a social ideal of most dog species. Dog will stay with there owner after the owner has died starving themselves. Mourning the loss of others is not spiritual, it is because those individuals where liked and are gone. If you want to see a vengfull little animal you should meet my cat, it plots attacks if we annoy her. Hyeana's btw, have amazing social structures and great levels of altruism within the group as do vultures, both of these animals will allow starving animals to feed first. There is a lot to animal behaviour that you should research beofre you say any animal is truely amazing. Many features are common to many species including what we have, this is not a spiritual link, this is just most social animals need similar social structures.

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