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#1    carini

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Posted 29 December 2006 - 08:26 PM

http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/article2099971.ece
http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news...46-eea457e8b873
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20061228/58020089.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4141348.stm

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Posted 30 December 2006 - 01:25 AM

Yeah, we're pretty screwed.  At the current rate of global temperature rise I fear the "tipping point", as it's called, of CO2 saturation has already been reached.  These thaws and ice regressions were predicted to take place minimum 50 fifty years from now by the most alarmist of studies.  Turns out it's happening even faster than that.

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Posted 30 December 2006 - 01:27 AM

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Yeah, we're pretty screwed.  At the current rate of global temperature rise I fear the "tipping point", as it's called, of CO2 saturation has already been reached.  These thaws and ice regressions were predicted to take place minimum 50 fifty years from now by the most alarmist of studies.  Turns out it's happening even faster than that.

You RI and me in the UK will notice the worst of is as well, the gulf stream is altering because of it.

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Posted 30 December 2006 - 01:27 AM

hmmm 50 years
but i thought the world was gonna end 2012  rolleyes.gif


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Posted 30 December 2006 - 01:30 AM

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hmmm 50 years
but i thought the world was gonna end 2012  rolleyes.gif

Lol, Its not the end of the world, just for a lot of species on it. 50 years is just an estimation, but it is obviouus that the changes in the world temperature are having some profound affects.

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Posted 30 December 2006 - 01:36 AM

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Posted 30 December 2006 - 01:48 AM

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You RI and me in the UK will notice the worst of is as well, the gulf stream is altering because of it.


I know, huh?  The drop in salinity of the north atlantic is forcing the Gulf Stream south.  Here's a quote from an article about a study in the 90's when they predicted that the gulf stream would shut down by 2200 at the rates observed from 1965-1995.  They have since amended it after noting the quick increase in ice melt from 2002-2005:

"If, as a result of global warming, significant parts of the massive Greenland ice-sheet were to melt or break off, and if sea-ice formation were to shrink as fast or even faster than the rapid rate witnessed over the period 2002-05 then the timetable mooted in this study would likely have to be brought forward considerably, as noted by the authors."

They don't say when but significantly sooner than 2200 is scary enough.

Here's another excerpt relating to a recently published study in Nature:

"The Atlantic Ocean overturning that maintains Europe's moderate climate has slowed by 30 per cent according to scientists from the National Oceanography Centre at the University of Southampton in research published today in Nature (Thursday, 1 December 2005).

Professor Harry Bryden, Dr Stuart Cunningham and University of Southampton research student Hannah Longworth have been researching the flow of the Atlantic Ocean across latitude 25 degrees north - comparing measurements across the Atlantic taken in 2004 with records from 1957, 1981, 1992 and 1998. Ocean flow is measured in Sverdrups, equivalent to one million tonnes of water a second. The team estimate a decrease in the overturning from 20 Sv in earlier surveys to 14 Sv in 2004."

For over forty years it had been the same then between 1998 and 2004 you have a 30% drop off?  Yeah, nothings happening.  All's I can say is get a warm coat, bro.  At least it won't rain as much, right? sad.gif


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Posted 30 December 2006 - 01:52 AM

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I know, huh?  The drop in salinity of the north atlantic is forcing the Gulf Stream south.  Here's a quote from an article about a study in the 90's when they predicted that the gulf stream would shut down by 2200 at the rates observed from 1965-1995.  They have since amended it after noting the quick increase in ice melt from 2002-2005:

"If, as a result of global warming, significant parts of the massive Greenland ice-sheet were to melt or break off, and if sea-ice formation were to shrink as fast or even faster than the rapid rate witnessed over the period 2002-05 then the timetable mooted in this study would likely have to be brought forward considerably, as noted by the authors."

They don't say when but significantly sooner than 2200 is scary enough.

Here's another excerpt relating to a recently published study in Nature:

"The Atlantic Ocean overturning that maintains Europe's moderate climate has slowed by 30 per cent according to scientists from the National Oceanography Centre at the University of Southampton in research published today in Nature (Thursday, 1 December 2005).

Professor Harry Bryden, Dr Stuart Cunningham and University of Southampton research student Hannah Longworth have been researching the flow of the Atlantic Ocean across latitude 25 degrees north - comparing measurements across the Atlantic taken in 2004 with records from 1957, 1981, 1992 and 1998. Ocean flow is measured in Sverdrups, equivalent to one million tonnes of water a second. The team estimate a decrease in the overturning from 20 Sv in earlier surveys to 14 Sv in 2004."

For over forty years it had been the same then between 1998 and 2004 you have a 30% drop off?  Yeah, nothings happening.  All's I can say is get a warm coat, bro.  At least it won't rain as much, right? sad.gif
sad.gif Rain is a small loss for losing all the trees isn't it. crying.gif


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Posted 30 December 2006 - 01:54 AM

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Uh, yup:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/20...arctic-ice.html

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Posted 04 January 2007 - 05:53 PM

Nope nothing to see here.


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Posted 04 January 2007 - 05:56 PM

Global Warming is a myth invented by the Democrats and world leaders across the globe to extract big bucks from the Republicans oil money and destroy America. laugh.gif

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Posted 04 January 2007 - 05:56 PM

Its 51 degrees out in January today.  Sun is shining and they day is beautiful and it occurred to me that I don't really have a problem with winter going away forever.  I hate the cold.  But then its the dang side effects of global warming that's the problem.

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Posted 04 January 2007 - 05:59 PM

It's sad people don't care about destroying our atmosphere for the sake of a warmer winter. Ignorance at it's finest, doesn't get any worse than that.


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Posted 04 January 2007 - 06:01 PM

Well what are the side effects.  Seriously.  I am curious if this is just another way of our species changing the environment to suit our needs?

Survival of the fittest.  Adapt or die.  Seems like humans have taken over the planet.


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Posted 04 January 2007 - 06:15 PM

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Well what are the side effects.  Seriously.  I am curious if this is just another way of our species changing the environment to suit our needs?

Survival of the fittest.  Adapt or die.  Seems like humans have taken over the planet.

The negative effects are the loss of the ice in polar regions causing sea level rises, this in turn cause alteration of currents. Areas like the UK will be much much colder the US mid west will start to look more akin to the Sahara. Increased desertification in Africa and Asia's tropical regions. Decrease in the available water for everyone loss of wildlife both terestial and marine, loss of planet life through both heat and cold, flooding of large areas such as the Carolinas and Florida Holland and Denmark. Then it will probably get worse.

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