[Endymion]

Brujas means Bruxas and in english is Witches.

I will only believe if I see a good video,and not those ones who ends in the best part of the recording.

[Isis2200]

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It was all black about 8 to 12 inches in height.. I dont think it was a regular doll cause somebody had to put it right there cause we went first and there was nothing there then we went again later on and it was just there standing there and it was on the hill were we saw the brujas come out from. We were going to get it but we thinked about it and we just left and i didnt go back again.

Wow! Creepy! Yeah, does sound like a voodoo doll to me. Is it possible to ask your grandma for more information about the Brujas? I'd like to learn more about it.

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~ Isis2200

[wtfisthat]

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Brujas means Bruxas and in english is Witches.

I will only believe if I see a good video,and not those ones who ends in the best part of the recording.

Yeah thats what it means..I u dont bealive me right now is ok..Im not trying to offend You but i dont care cause i know what i saw and what i experienced. I understand that is hard to believe cause i was like that to when my aunt, my mom, grandma, grandpa etc told me about them.

[wtfisthat]

OK i found a video about that cop that got attacked by a witch..This happend in the state of Nuevo Leon i dont go there i go to a state named Guanajuato. heres the link.
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=5oVPWvKmkXI

[Endymion]

I always as been curious about witchcraft,I would like to be a witch.

But maybe is Harry Potter in vacations in México lolol

[battleangel]

Interesting story. I guess I'm not that surprised if there are similarities. The Spanish called the Apache version of a skinwalker "bruja" so there must be some similarities. Also considering that trade existed from the SW into Mexico, some cultural diffusion could've occurred as well. I watched that you tube clip and the drawing was kind of interesting. The red eyes caught my attention because that is rather similar. Skinwalkers don't fly, at least not around here they don't. They don't impersonate birds and they certainly don't reveal their faces like in that drawing. That's a pretty big divergence from the Mexican lechuza/bruja. The film was interesting but it's hard to say what it was. It looked like something flying in the air but it was too out of focus to be certain.

[Endymion]

All videos are always out of focus,this will gonna be like the chupacabras,hummm where and when I have heard of chupacabras?? some years ago in Mexico,now what happened to chupacabras?? no one talks about it no one investigates no one record it as a pro??

This post has been edited by Endymion: 29 January 2007 - 03:44 PM

[Violet_Blue]

Battleangel, do you know if the Apache skinwalker will turn into owls? I had a friend in highschool, who is part Apache and I remember her telling me about some sort of witch who either turned into an owl or had something to do with owls... I didn't realize this before, but the Lechuza witch is actually a very large black Owl. "Lechuza" means Owl in case anyone else didn't catch this before, I was thinking of big black Raven type birds (I've heard of those before) but I guess it's an owl these witches turn into most often.

[battleangel]

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Battleangel, do you know if the Apache skinwalker will turn into owls? I had a friend in highschool, who is part Apache and I remember her telling me about some sort of witch who either turned into an owl or had something to do with owls... I didn't realize this before, but the Lechuza witch is actually a very large black Owl. "Lechuza" means Owl in case anyone else didn't catch this before, I was thinking of big black Raven type birds (I've heard of those before) but I guess it's an owl these witches turn into most often.

Not that my husband has heard of. He was pretty adamant in saying that bird types just don't occur in the SW. Maybe further south though. Owls are associated with death for the Navajo and it's pretty much the same for the Apache. The Apache also make a stronger connection between owls and witchcraft than the Navajo. Whether or not the owl acts as a courier or is a witch varies.

Frankly, a skinwalker could feasibly pick any animal to impersonate that they want. The one that I saw looked like a smallish cat simply by using the darkness to its advantage. They're tricksters and much of what they wear is costume. People have seen oddities like ones that are mimicking donkeys. It could just be a cultural thing that they don't do birds. Disguising one's identity is of the most importance because being identified while skinwalking equals death. So, you're not going to find somebody running around in something like the lechuza or a small "mask" that would be all they could use from a bird. You'll see them, instead, covered in pastes with their faces either partially or entirely covered. A bird costume wouldn't permit that kind of coverage.

The fact that lechuza means owl is pretty interesting. Owl seems to have a bad rap all the way down into Mexico.

[Endymion]

A lechuza is this :

[battleangel]

Yeah, it's interesting to look at that owl. I'm smiling to myself because many people who have seen a skinwalker's "face" will describe it as being covered with a white paste with black around the eye area. Of course, it's not applied smoothly and makes their faces look like they are melting but the similarity to that owl's face with its dark eyes and white face is kind of interesting. Could be coincidental but interesting.

[Violet_Blue]

There are many very interesting looking owls... I have to agree though that if one of those creepy looking ones was watching me through the trees in the dark and I was suddenly startled by it's eerie calls, I might just be a little scared.

I think something about it's face and eyes resemble a human face, very interesting to look at...

(lots of pictures here and you can listen to their calls too!)

Pictures of Owls in Mexico


Found some very interesting information about Owls and how they are seen around the World:

World Owl Mythology - The Owl Pages

Owls in Lore and Culture - The Owl Pages

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wtfisthat,

Do you know if they are always seen as Owls (Lechuzas) or do they sometimes appear as big Black Birds? I asked a friend who has a lot of good stories about these witches and says they are usually black, sometimes seen with fireballs by their feet.

Hmm, let me see if I can find out how you turn into one! LOL (yep I like to do research about the paranormal! LOL)

[wtfisthat]

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There are many very interesting looking owls... I have to agree though that if one of those creepy looking ones was watching me through the trees in the dark and I was suddenly startled by it's eerie calls, I might just be a little scared.

I think something about it's face and eyes resemble a human face, very interesting to look at...

(lots of pictures here and you can listen to their calls too!)

Pictures of Owls in Mexico
Found some very interesting information about Owls and how they are seen around the World:

World Owl Mythology - The Owl Pages

Owls in Lore and Culture - The Owl Pages

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wtfisthat,

Do you know if they are always seen as Owls (Lechuzas) or do they sometimes appear as big Black Birds? I asked a friend who has a lot of good stories about these witches and says they are usually black, sometimes seen with fireballs by their feet.

Hmm, let me see if I can find out how you turn into one! LOL (yep I like to do research about the paranormal! LOL)

OK they appear as Lechuzas or blackbirds with fireballs..I dont know if there by their feet but they do have fireballs.. I also know that they have the face of person. Because when i seen them they were far away and they were redballs i didnt see it close up cause when it started getting closer we ran inside.. But when we saw them they were redballs but from what my aunt and grandma told me they were bigblack birds or lechuzas.

[kendra's paradigm]

pass on the Peyote next time that is some freeky story

[kiddglock]

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pass on the Peyote next time that is some freeky story

"Pass on it" or pass it?

heheh