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#1    AngelicWitch

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Posted 29 November 2003 - 01:35 AM

Does Good and Evil truly exist?

Think about it a little and question people's beliefs. Look at the world as a whole and see if good and evil truly exist. When you think about it the only good and evil is what we create in our minds. To us evil is everything against the majority of society and the good is everything for the majority of society. But if society is different from each other does that make one society evil over the other. Know we do have universal laws stating that murder is evil. But murder is such a vague term. When you think about it the United States commits several acts of murder for legal reasons either through death penalty or war. In other countries people kill for their own religious purposes.

So I ask you what is evil and good? Does exist or does it only exist in our mind? Can there be the ultimate evil and the ultimate good?

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Posted 29 November 2003 - 01:39 AM

The way i think of it is:say someone believes in something,the evil to that believing person will be the opposite of their beliefs,and vice versa.So why seperate them into different coloumns when they are such useless concepts.

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Posted 29 November 2003 - 01:50 AM

Yes true. I don't know. To me good and evil is nothing more then indiffrence. We live in a world surrounded by diffrent culture and diffrent beliefs. If there is a good and evil out there it is crowded by many opinions on the subject.  

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Posted 29 November 2003 - 01:59 AM

To have a concept of good one must also have a concept  of evil. But something evil to one may be good to another and visa versa. This is what causes confrontation.
  Weather or not it is just in the mind is irrelevant. Every human ideal, starts in the mind and everyone has an idea of what is good and evil. The proof of the reality of good and evil can be found in its physical manifestations.

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Posted 29 November 2003 - 02:05 AM

Thats what i said,one thing might be evil to one person of a belief,and to another person to a different belief,the same thing might be good to them.Therefore they are the same.It all goes to religions.

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Posted 29 November 2003 - 02:18 AM

True and I agree with that. It is so confussing yet so true.  

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Posted 09 December 2003 - 06:44 PM

I don't think evil and good is in our heads I don't believe that your born evil or good it's the path you take. But there are (were) people who did awful things just think about those who hurt and murder people. Do you think they are evil? So if someone really hurt a poor child do you call them a murder a person or evil?



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Posted 09 December 2003 - 07:29 PM

Good or evil is a human state...nothing to do with survival or basic needs...it is our intelligence that gives room for such things.
And religions sucks many times becouse they are the reason for so many wars in the past and today.

We are just farts in space and time.



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Posted 10 December 2003 - 12:30 AM

I look at good and evil this way: The world is colorful, but people make it black and white (good and evil). In other words, nothing is overly good or evil, but people make it that way. There are exceptions, as in actual murderers, people like Hitler, etc..., but over all it's just something people label things as.  


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Posted 10 December 2003 - 12:58 AM

there is up , and there is down
there is positive and negative
right and wrong



if you took up and applied it to down you'd be left with a standstill
apply a positive charge to a negative charge and they go boom
one man's right is another man's wrong

what it all boils down to is that everything cancells itself out
there really is no up or down, positive or negative, right or wrong
its all your perception


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Posted 10 December 2003 - 01:12 AM

GOOD

helpfull , brings joy to the mass in the end

EVIL

Not helpfull , screws the mass over in the end


-Just because evil often diguises itself as good and vice versa , doesn't mean they dont exist . If neither good or evil existed our universe would be an emotionless ball of mud without any humour hapiness , sadness  , sorrow , joy , peace , torment or darkness .  

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Posted 10 December 2003 - 02:46 AM

bah

good and evil are both subjective terms created by the human mind to try and give meaning to things that happen...



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Posted 10 December 2003 - 05:04 AM

Doesn't change fact it exists  

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Posted 10 December 2003 - 11:43 AM

they are purely subjective terms...
there is no definitive meaning for evil, there is no definitive meaning for good...

just because you believe something to be good doesn't not mean it is, just as something may or may not be evil, its all subjective.





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Posted 10 December 2003 - 03:25 PM

Read what my point was .

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GOOD

helpfull , brings joy to the mass in the end

EVIL

Not helpfull , screws the mass over in the end


it sums it up right their , evil and good exist . Sure ... their will always be some idiot who thinks good is evil and evil is good , but in the end whether or not something was helpfull will always come clear .

Lets take cocaine for example , while on it people think it to be the greatest thing in the world . In the end it screws their life over and they curse the drug , the time they thought it was a good thing was nothing but mere dillusions .

Now for a more massive scale . The holocaust . Germany thought it was an excellent idea that would bring prosperity and eternal rule to them all , in the end everyone came to realize it was just some evil killing spree started by some seriously psychotic individual . Did the holocaust screw the mass over in end ? Yes .

Sure , their may be som people who still think its a good thing , that doesn't mean good and evil don't exist . It means they are screwed up in the head and highly dillusional .

But what you say about good and evil being subjective does make sense in some circumstances , but those are mainly silly little disputes were the object in question i ussually nor good nor evil . Therefore a nutural version of good and evil exist , but they still exist .

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