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#1    Scream

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Posted 28 May 2007 - 03:16 PM

I like the movies, but this is weird.


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The movie, Scream, directed by Wes Craven, featured a character wearing an elongated white face mask with hollow eyes and a black cowl, popular among Trick-or-Treaters and for Halloween parties.  Aired in 1996, the film satirized a collection of past slasher movies, offering the plot of a teenage girl targeted by a maniacal killer (Ghostface) who must learn her town's secrets to save herself.  But even satires can trigger unbalanced minds to mimicry.  It's all in the images.


Even as Scream spawned two top-grossing sequels, it also inspired crimes.  For three or four years after its release, a number of teenagers were inspired to murder: a boy and his cousin in Los Angeles obsessed with the film murdered his mother by stabbing her 45 times; a man wearing the mask shot and killed a woman in Florida; a boy in France killed his parents while acting as Ghostface; and in England, a pair of boys repeatedly stabbed a third one, claiming the film had prompted them to do it.

Daniel Gill, 14, and Robert Fuller, 15, from North Yorkshire, were found guilty on October 22, 1999 of the attempted murder of Ashley Murray and were sentence to detention in a juvenile facility for six years.  They stabbed Murray eighteen times and left him to die, but a day and a half later a man walking his dog found him, and he recovered.

Just before the attack, the boys had watched Scream at the home of a drug dealer, who had shown them occultic items and weapons, and allegedly told them that the gods wanted Murray to die.  Their defense was that this influence had blurred the line between fantasy and reality, as well as the line between right and wrong.  Drawings of Ghostface and pictures of knives turned up in one boy's schoolbooks, according to the BBC.

But they were friends of Murray's, and even he conceded that the film might have directed their behavior.  That was the statement he gave to police.  They had lured him to an isolated spot, he said, and then Gill stabbed him repeatedly in the cheek and head.  Fuller held him and stabbed his arm.  Only when Murray pretended to be dead did they leave, but he was too injured to find his way to a hospital.



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Posted 28 May 2007 - 06:12 PM

I don't agree at all.
A movie, music, etc. can NOT convince a normal person to murder someone else. There must be an underlying problem with the person to begin with.
I grew up watching slasher films from the time I was 4 and up. I have older brothers who were supposed to be babysitting me, but, instead took it as the perfect opportunity to watch those movies Mom wouldn't let them see!  laugh.gif And I have NEVER caused any type of physical harm to another human being.
Why? Because I was brought up right, taught right from wrong, had all the love that I needed, etc.
If a child is truly influenced by a movie or music then in my opinion, that is a cry for help. Most normal people do realize that a movie is not reality and that things depicted in the movie should not be acted out. If a person does not realize this then obviously they have underlying mental/emotional problems.

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Posted 29 May 2007 - 06:38 AM

You're probably right in that...wrong parentship/education is a well known motive for murders and other crimes....

Me? I just had fun a couple times putting on my scream costume and my voice changer, then calling people and standing in their backyard ( i did this by friends, so don't worry tongue.gif ), but i never even thought about going further.

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Posted 29 May 2007 - 06:57 AM

When  Stanely Kubricks movie A Clockwork Orange was introduced into Britain after a seven year ban there were many copy cat crimes commited in relation to the events shown in the movie. There is sometimes a direct correlation to a movie and a crime. It's as simple as that. It's easy and only half right to say that all (every single violent act you have ever seen or heard through the media hasn't influenced anybody ever) violence in the movies isn't at all responcible for inspiring any crimes whatsoever by anyone ever.


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Posted 29 May 2007 - 08:23 AM

Of course movies have the ability to influence people, but it's the audiences responsibility to draw the line between thought and action.

I wouldn't take these claims of 'the film made me do it' so seriously, as it seems clear that the involved parties are meerely looking for someone or something to blame for their actions.

Grant me this at least, man differs more from man than man from beast....


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Posted 29 May 2007 - 11:08 PM

UGH!  I'm so sick & tired of people not taking responsibility for their own actions!  mad.gif   No movie, video game nor music can make you kill.  If it did, I would have been locked up soooo long ago.  I grew up watching all the  gunsmilie.gif Dirty Harry's, Death Wishes & most all other unacceptable, violent movies. gunsmilie.gif  I also grew up listening to groups like  clap.gif AC/DC, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, etc. clap.gif     So why haven't I killed?  Uh, cause I know the difference between right & wrong.  I'm not saying I've never dreamed of "getting even", but violence is not an option.

So if you go out & kill someone, you better hope BIG TIME that I'm not on your jury.  No sympathies here.  devil.gif

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Posted 29 May 2007 - 11:32 PM

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UGH!  I'm so sick & tired of people not taking responsibility for their own actions!  mad.gif   No movie, video game nor music can make you kill.


i do agree that people need to take repsonsibility for their actions, but I also feel that there are people who just have it in them to kill and that movie or song, book, what have you just triggers something in their mind.  But, as Lorelei says

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A movie, music, etc. can NOT convince a normal person to murder someone else. There must be an underlying problem with the person to begin with.
  So, no NORMAL person would do something like this, but we all know that there are the ones who do not fit the 'normal' category.  

I made sure that my daughter understood what was pretend and what was real.  We played a game so that she could understand that the characters were just actors acting out parts and I would ask her what other movie the actor was in. She can identify actors by their voice and face, much to my sisers chagrin when she blurts out "he was in.......!".

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Posted 30 May 2007 - 01:04 AM

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I don't agree at all.
A movie, music, etc. can NOT convince a normal person to murder someone else. There must be an underlying problem with the person to begin with.
I grew up watching slasher films from the time I was 4 and up. I have older brothers who were supposed to be babysitting me, but, instead took it as the perfect opportunity to watch those movies Mom wouldn't let them see!  laugh.gif And I have NEVER caused any type of physical harm to another human being.
Why? Because I was brought up right, taught right from wrong, had all the love that I needed, etc.
If a child is truly influenced by a movie or music then in my opinion, that is a cry for help. Most normal people do realize that a movie is not reality and that things depicted in the movie should not be acted out. If a person does not realize this then obviously they have underlying mental/emotional problems.

Have a nice day!  wavey.gif
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As you disagree, one thing you overlook, those cases were all men; you're a woman.
There haven't been many documented cases, if any, of women serial killers.   Sure, there has been a ton of women that kill their own babies, but IMO, that is different than being a serial killer.
Most are white men, too, with one case exception in the Atlanta child murderer case (and even that case may or may not have been Wayne Williams - a black man).

What exactly is normal anyhow?  Someone that goes to school, doesn't cut classes?  Doesn't drink or smoke?  Doesn't eat meat?

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Posted 31 May 2007 - 01:38 PM

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I don't agree at all.
A movie, music, etc. can NOT convince a normal person to murder someone else.


Some years back one of the evening magazine type shows (20/20, Dateline, 60 Minutes) did a study with children who didn't have television in their homes. There were about 10 kids - a mixture of boys and girls. The children played well with each other before being shown 30 minutes of a cartoon about the X-Men. The boys were playing with trucks and varooming around the room, while the girls played quietly with the dolls that were there.
After watching the cartoon for 30 minutes - within 5 minutes of the television being shut off the boys started getting rambunctious - doing chopping motions, kicking at each other and becoming quite attitudinal... The girls did also - only not as loudly.

I think this is a fairly clear indication that what children view can, and does, impact their behavior... Factor in some of the more violent video games and you have a recipe for disaffection. When children are exposed to violence on a regular basis it becomes inured in them... This is not a good thing.


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Posted 06 June 2007 - 12:26 PM

1893. Norwegian painter, Edvard Munch, paints "The Scream". Munch's
      work often included the symbolic portrayal of themes such as misery,
      sickness, and death.
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      a century goes by wherein some misery, sickness, and death happens...
                                                                    then...
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      February 12th, 1994. The National Gallery's "Scream" painting is
      stolen. (Munch had made four versions of the painting.) Three months
      later the painting was recovered.
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      1996. "Scream," directed by Wes Craven, hits theatres. The plot
      features a psychopathic serial killer stalking a group of teens...
      just like in the movies! Ha ha ha.. art imitating life imitating art.
      I get it. But then life starts imitating the art imitating life
      imitating art and things get really interesting if not just a little
      confusing. Oh yeah, and the killer wears a mask inspired by Edvard
      Munch's now infamous painting.
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      1997. Three male teenagers who had repeatedly watched Scream murder
      two girls in Salem, Massachusetts.
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      1997. "Scream 2" hits theatres. In this sequel to the 1996 film, the
      number of suspects only goes down as the body count slowly goes up!
      Ha ha ha.. I get it! Just like in real life!
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      1999. Patrick was 14 when he put on a "Scream" mask and broke into a
      former teacherís house near Hood Canal. Yelling "Die, b****, die," he
      repeatedly stabbed and beat her while her baby slept in another room.
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      1999. Thirty-four violent films, including Scream, found in the rooms
      of two male college students at Hadlow, Kent, who stabbed a friend to
      death, dismembered his body, and then burnt the leftovers.
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      1999. Two schoolboys who brutally stabbed a friend and left him for
      dead after watching Scream are convicted of attempted murder at Hull.
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      1999. With the help of two cousins, a teenager stabbed his mother to
      death after watching Scream in Lynwood, California.
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      2000. "Scream 3" hits theatres. Because inspiring a monumental string
      of barbarous copycat murders really requires a trilogy! Ya dig?
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      2000. Three men, one in a "Scream" mask, scaled a balcony and broke
      into an apartment in the England Run complex off U.S. 17. One victim
      was bound with duct tape. Matthew W. Glenn, 18, resisted his
      attackers and was shot in the back.
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      2000. A woman and two men, wearing Scream masks, robbed a store in
      Lowell, Massachusetts, and shot a man dead.
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      2000. Five young men wore Scream masks when they gang raped a 21-
      year-old woman in a town near Paris.
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      A few weeks later at Lebetain, eastern France, the police arrested a
      boy of 15 when his parents were found dead after being repeatedly
      stabbed while they slept. In his confession the boy said he had
      hallucinations after watching "Scream" and heard voices telling him
      to kill his parents.
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      November 29th, 2000. An 18-year-old man robbed a convenience store
      wearing a "Scream" mask -- and his 17-year-old wife drove the getaway
      car. Jessica Powell told police they took the money so they could go
      to the movies.
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      2001. A 24-year-old Belgian in the town of Gerpinnes with no criminal
      record and no history of psychiatric problems dressed himself in a
      long black tunic, donned a Scream mask, and stabbed a 15-year-old
      schoolgirl 30 times with two enormous kitchen knives.
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      2002. Man accused of shooting two men dead in a bar in Pennsylvania
      wore a Scream mask.
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      March 2002. After two teenage girls at Saint-Vit, eastern France,
      tortured a classmate in an abandoned house, the local public
      prosecutor said they had admitted watching the film just beforehand.
      He claimed that the girls, aged 15 and 13, had been influenced by the
      film and carried a knife which "strongly recalled the weapon used in
      the horror film."
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      April 2nd, 2002. Kevin Skaggs was at the counter of the Oregon Quick
      Cash Payday Advance when a man wearing a Scream mask walked in. The
      robber indicated that he had a gun and wanted money. Skaggs pulled
      his own gun and shot Jeffrey Gordon Duncan in the chest. The
      assailant fled and was found dead a few blocks away. "If there is one
      good thing that comes out of this," Skaggs said, "it's that people
      will know that we are not going to put up with this sort of thing."
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      May 2002. A 17-year-old french boy stabs a 15-year-old girl 17 times
      after watching "Scream". He had tried unsuccessfully to attack two
      other schoolgirls before inviting his final victim to go for a walk
      around a football field near their homes.
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      October 2002. A masked gunman robbed a North Toledo McDonaldís and
      fled with an undisclosed amount of money. Wearing a mask from the
      movie Scream and using a voice changer to disguise his voice, the
      robber approached the counter and pulled out a gun.
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      November 3rd, 2002. A group of about 15 men, all believed to be Asian
      and in their early 20's, went on a stabbing rampage in England and
      knifed 4 random people. The main offender was wearing a Scream-style
      Halloween mask.
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      November 23rd, 2002. 24-year-old Jeffrey Ivan Vample of Norristown,
      PA, raped, strangled, and robbed 67 year old Alice Hufnagle-Llauman.
      She was found half naked and bound with duct tape in her bedroom. A
      bloody "Scream" mask, and a calender with the notation on November
      23rd reading "My Love, What a Day," were recovered.
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      July 31st, 2003. 51-year-old West Roxbury man, James Hayes, decided
      to break off his hockey stick, attach a 5-inch knife, grab a Scream
      mask, a cloak, and some electrical cord, and drive to his ex-wife's
      house after learning she was sleeping with a woman. Once there, he
      burst into the bedroom wearing the Scream mask and repeatedly stabbed
      his ex-wifes lesbian lover with his makeshift "man-spear".
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      October 31st, 2003. A crazed psychotherapist wore a Scream mask and
      "ghost" cloak to kill a stranger on Halloween. Heather Stephenson-
      Snell, president of an all-women chapter of the Hell's Angels, set
      out to murder her love rival Diane Lomax and frame her ex-lover
      (former *spam filter* stripper Adrian Sinclair) for the murder. But when
      neighbour Bob Wilkie, 43, intervened she shot him dead with a sawn-
      off shotgun instead.
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      February 2004. At around 5am a man attired in black robe and a Scream
      mask, climbed through a dormitory window in Leeds. The burglar locked
      himself in the bedroom and held the student at hammer point. He then
      demanded mobile phone, credit cards, and relevant pin numbers. The
      burglar threatened to return soon and kill the student if he had
      given the wrong number. The burglar left, locking the student inside
      his room. After much frantic banging on ceilings and floors, the
      student succeeded in waking his flatmates who had to bust the door
      open and release the poor captive.
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      April 10th, 2004. A Hamilton liquor store was held up by an armed man
      wearing a green "Scream" mask. He got away on a blue mountain bike
      carrying several bottles of spirits.
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      August 22nd, 2004. Armed, masked thieves burst into an open Oslo
      museum in broad daylight and snatched the Edvard Munch masterpiece
      "The Scream". Estimated value of the painting is between $77 million
      and $97 million Canadian. The painting has yet to be recovered.
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      September 2004. 61-year-old Richard Anthony Carbone shot and killed a
      young friend, Daniel Ray Elzie, 19, who had been staying at his
      apartment in Rolling Hills in East Bremerton. Carbone heard a noise
      at the back of his apartment and was confronted by Elzie wearing a
      "scream mask" and carrying what appeared to be a bloody sword.
      Carbone shot Elzie in the stomach, continued to drink for a couple of
      hours, then called his son to tell him what had happened. By the time
      his son arrived, Elzie had bled to death.
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      September 29th, 2004, for reasons known only to her, Britney Spears
      put on a Scream-style mask for a visit to the local burger joint.
      Spears, accompanied by reputed spouse Kevin Federline, little sister
      Jamie Lynn, and mom-chauffeur Lynn, finished the evening by lobbing
      milkshakes at paparazzi.


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Posted 06 June 2007 - 05:21 PM

I have heard of video games that can cause people to murder others, but I haven't heard of movies doing that.

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 05:31 PM

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I have heard of video games that can cause people to murder others, but I haven't heard of movies doing that.

Yes, I have heard of movies doing this.  Actually it isn't the actual film causing it, but the mental state of the person themselves.  I wish I could remember what the mental condition is called, but basically, it is when the person is unable to differentiate between fact and fiction when reading a book or watching a film, it is almost as if they put themselves in the "starring" role and believe everything they see and read and think it is themselves.

There was a case a few years ago, whereby someone jumped in front of a train (they died of course), it turned out they had just left the cinema after watching The Matrix.  I guess they could not tell the difference between real and fantasy and really believed they were from The Matrix.

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Posted 24 June 2007 - 04:06 PM

i remember reading about someone making a claw hand exaclty like the one from the a nightmare on elm street series, the man was obssesed with the movies and attacked his friend with the weapon


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Posted 28 June 2007 - 12:34 AM

There are always going to be idiots. Rather they get these ideas from movies, games or music, they are still idiots to start with. Can you imagine having to jump through the same hoops to rent a video that one has to go through to buy a gun? I don't think that anyone would want to impose such restrictions so, we are just going to have to live with the fact that crazy people do crazy things. All you can do is try to figure out which ones are unstable and keep your powder dry.

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Posted 04 July 2007 - 04:34 AM

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There haven't been many documented cases, if any, of women serial killers.


Actually... I know of at least 50... yes, there are offspring related murders, but, they still count...

As fas as media contributing to the increase of copy-cats and serial killings... I don't hold the media responsible, but there has been an increase of them since the ability to reach the masses has improved.

Think back to 1800's London... Jack the Ripper... at least one of them was a copy-cat based on the limited description in the newspapers.

I agree with those who say the movies, music, images don't make people go out and kill, but they do feed the already skewed brains of the mentally unstable.







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