What is Alchemy ?

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Anthony North: Of all the esoteric arts, none are more controversial than alchemy. Indeed, the standard image we have of the Magician – pointy hat, wise look on his ancient face, and surrounded by books and glass vials – is really that of the Alchemist.

Existing in a world of mystery, the Alchemist seemed to be a dark, occult shadow over much of Europe from Medieval times to the birth of the modern world. And his claims were quite often fantastic.

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Modern forms of Alchemy include matter-manipulation through atomic Physics. You can literally turn lead to gold, by scattering the proper sequence of electrons, protons and such with directed particle application.

However, the energy required is not feasible to produce significant quantities cost efficiently. It is possible, however.

The grail among most these days pursuing such is very efficient water handling. Removing impurities, and recycling waste water so it is clean enough to be reinserted in the biosphere. The one who comes up with that, needing little intervention, and not requiring a great deal of resources, is looking at one fat pocket.

[jrree57]

SARU man,

Your talking to an Alchemist: It is simplt put AL--Chemistry , Al is for ALLAH the god who is and not meaning Al=God and La= not God at all or the reverse.

You probably already know this from your Kabalah studies but I will tell you what the other Alchemist will not explain. Which itis a metaphisical way of getting God or to the God head,

The God head is what the christian promise paradise and not only seeing angels but getting in touch with the diety itself. Sounds impossible ,Well thats why Alchemy is the best kept secret in All of the OCCULT.

Have a nice day,smile

[Essene]

I have studied Alchemy and its effects for about eight months and I am totally amazed on a few elixirs that are ancient. Some people believe it dates back to the ancient Egyptians and even further back in time. I came across this Video of Lost Secrets of The Sacred Ark on google in November 2006. It stated something to the effect that it maybe a cure all, among other things. I did not come into this blindly as I had some training in gravity and magnetic's and also I came across "spin waves" in which it stated that some molecules that are deformed can spin at a high rate which can throw off unusual things such as quarks, photons, harmonic fields, phonon's etc. It was stated this superdeformed molecule could literally disappear. Needless to say I was very interested in "spin waves". Then I saw this video by Laurence Gardner and it all "clicked" and I have studied this material since. The main reason was I was even more interested was the fact that a very close friend had a incurable disease and was suffering greatly. She had MS and refused to take any more treatments that were as bad the disease it self with the side effects. I told her about monatomics and told her to study them and the possible health effects and she decided to try it about six months ago and continues to use it (M3). Modern Alchemist have rediscovered by chance this material thanks to David Hudson and his work about 30 years ago. I my self am not a (or was not) into far out idea's but once I studied it further it made sense. Some think its manna (also look up mana, its the Polynesian version of manna) known by the ancients as having almost magical effects. Manna in ancient Hebrew means "what is it". It seems the early Church may have tried to inhibit its use for what ever reason and keep this power to them selves (long story on that), they called Alchemists the occult and it was evil what they did. There is reams of pages on all this and I am only touching on a few things. I will send the link for the video and also a link on what maybe a secret church document. Also, my dear friend is now doing way better with no symptoms of MS at all and she has stated she has never felt better in her life along with other beneficial health effects. This is fact, I know I have no proof and there is no peer reviewed studies that is published for the obvious reasons that would effect the pharmaceutical industry dramatically. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=85...h&plindex=0 http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/health...ific%20Diseases http://www.nwbotanicals.org/vault/writings...er_ta_pente.htm

Edited July 3, 2007 by Essene

[bee]

[i came across this Video of Lost Secrets of The Sacred Ark on google in November 2006.

I've just watched the video.....(google video link on Essene's post)

It's 1 hour 21 minutes long.....and it is captivating from the first second to the last.

To say I HIGHLY recommend it.......is an understatement.

This is a must see video.

Alchemy.

I am TOTALLY blown away.....almost lost for words to decribe the importance of the

'Lost Secrets of the Sacred Ark'......

[Essene]

I've just watched the video.....(google video link on Essene's post)

It's 1 hour 21 minutes long.....and it is captivating from the first second to the last.

To say I HIGHLY recommend it.......is an understatement.

This is a must see video.

Alchemy.

I am TOTALLY blown away.....almost lost for words to decribe the importance of the

'Lost Secrets of the Sacred Ark'......

Hi Bee, excellent video I will have to agree. It changed my life and my friends. I believe a Hollywood movie is in the process of being made about this subject and may be produced or directed by Laurence Gardner.

[InnerSpace]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=85...h&plindex=0 http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/health...ific%20Diseases http://www.nwbotanicals.org/vault/writings...er_ta_pente.htm

My God, I just got through watching the google video, and I'm absolutely amazed. In my profession, I specialize in Brainwave Entrainment. One of the benefits of entrainment is the synchronizing of the left and right hemispheres of the brain. Over time this creates whole-brain thinking. Geniuses are generally natural whole-brain thinkers. According to studies on white powder gold (shown in this video), there is overwhelming evidence that those who took this substance showed a synchronization of the left and right hemispheres. That is simply amazing!!! It's beyond my comprehension that one could take a substance that would create synchronization...totally mind boggling.

Thank you Essene for posting this link. I will continue to research this astounding phenomenon.

BTW Essene, I'm so happy to hear about your dear friend's improvement with MS.

[War Eagle]

Cool links and great posting Essene, keep it up

What you said about the church is how Manly P. Hall said it also in his masterpiece book 'Secret Teachings of the Ages', that the church labeled it as evil to the masses whilst continuing to practice it themselves over centuries.

I've read it in part, that in the dark ages Alchemists and their ancient 'esoteric' knowledge was being corrupted by the wealthy and powerful to manipulate and or change substances at will for example lead into gold?

(which might explain why they have so much gold in their possession and or wall to wall gold in and around the vatican lol!!)

Alchemy and Its Exponents. extract from the book Secret Teachings of All Ages.

I'm still reading it and i may have to read it a few times to understand and or appreciate fully. lol!

[Essene]

Inner Space and Rebel, I am glad you both enjoyed the video and the links. I will send a link of David Hudson speaking at several engagements. He is the one who rediscovered this material. There is so much information, but its hard to find. I have even studied some quantum physics and quantum biology regarding coherence of molecules and also Zero Point Energy, magnetic's etc. to get an idea what might be really going on with this materials effects. http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/hudson/index.html#clips

My God, I just got through watching the google video, and I'm absolutely amazed. In my profession, I specialize in Brainwave Entrainment. One of the benefits of entrainment is the synchronizing of the left and right hemispheres of the brain. Over time this creates whole-brain thinking. Geniuses are generally natural whole-brain thinkers. According to studies on white powder gold (shown in this video), there is overwhelming evidence that those who took this substance showed a synchronization of the left and right hemispheres. That is simply amazing!!! It's beyond my comprehension that one could take a substance that would create synchronization...totally mind boggling.

Thank you Essene for posting this link. I will continue to research this astounding phenomenon.

BTW Essene, I'm so happy to hear about your dear friend's improvement with MS.

Edited July 5, 2007 by Essene

[Kazahel]

Yeah that was a cool video about the ark.. it was really interesting.. I'm glad I took the time to watch it.

[jaya]

About Ormus

In the website at the bottom of my post it is explained that golden powder suspended in water is not efficient,

on the contrary it can be also dangerous.

If the process is incomplete in a liquid state it may well contain some monatomic elements however there may also be some metal to metal bonds remaining which can damage the liver and kidneys over time. Liquid suspensions made from gold may contain gold hydroxide. This is not due to impurity in the gold- beginning with pure gold the steps, on the way to the powder, convert the metallic gold to a liquid hydroxide. This hydroxide converts to a gold chloride in the stomach as it reacts with hydrochloric acid. You can check the effects of gold chloride here: http://www.ci.tucson.az.us/arthazards/photo2.html (#36).

.....The seed of the plant is in the plant; the seed of the animal is in the animal; and here too the seed rests in the metal.

It is not sufficient merely to melt the gold into molten liquid, it must be reduced further to release the light-seed.

Then i understand that these products below are not good:

http://www.whitepowdergold.com/

Some of the newbie sites make silly claims "Within 2 minutes both subjects had their left and right hemispheres go into synchronization and they dropped into the alpha state of brain wave activity. Then the frontal lobes went into sync with the rear quadrants, which made all four quadrants of the brain synchronized. When this happened, they both went into the theta level of brain wave activity, and the 25 year old, having never meditated a day in his life, was making dips into the delta range, which is a range of brain activity deeper than sleep - deep meditation." [ZPtec] Please, you know better than that, this material works deeply to clear away deep blocks but it is not a magic pill that instantly take one into the deepest state of meditation in two minutes with no effort on your part. Independent tests on the same product as well as other available products showed no such results. Many of you have bio-feedback devices and have verified this for yourself. It does help to connect the halves of the brain and with your conscious effort it can assist you to go into deeper states, but as most of you are well aware it is not the instant hit claimed by some of the newage marketers and we do not make any of our formulas, and particularly the Ormes, available with any silly instant enlightenment claims. Although this marketing ploy is obvious others may be less so; with popularity comes profit potential and this is an unregulated area. What does it really mean "perfects your DNA", we'll address that in a bit but in general use discrimination and common sense as you explore this field.

Golden powder would not be only one product good for all in any moment, but it would be necessary to procede from the lower octave to the upper octave.

It is suggested to have a personal remedy with the vibrations corresponding to our need.

Please read here with attention:

http://www.asc-alchemy.com/mono.html

Edited July 9, 2007 by jaya

[War Eagle]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=85...h&plindex=0

On watching Lost secrets of the Sacred Ark again...

Just when you thought man had almost pushed the limits on scientific discoveries in most areas or as Gardner put it 're-discoveries', something like this comes along...mind blowing stuff.

If this is well known to mainstream science today, it kind of gets you wondering how much further advanced in Quantum Physics etc they really are outside of the mainstream? (*just the conspiracy mind at work in me again*)

Awesome stuff, well worth a second look.

[InnerSpace]

About Ormus

In the website at the bottom of my post it is explained that golden powder suspended in water is not efficient,

on the contrary it can be also dangerous.

If the process is incomplete in a liquid state it may well contain some monatomic elements however there may also be some metal to metal bonds remaining which can damage the liver and kidneys over time. Liquid suspensions made from gold may contain gold hydroxide. This is not due to impurity in the gold- beginning with pure gold the steps, on the way to the powder, convert the metallic gold to a liquid hydroxide. This hydroxide converts to a gold chloride in the stomach as it reacts with hydrochloric acid. You can check the effects of gold chloride here: http://www.ci.tucson.az.us/arthazards/photo2.html (#36).

.....The seed of the plant is in the plant; the seed of the animal is in the animal; and here too the seed rests in the metal.

It is not sufficient merely to melt the gold into molten liquid, it must be reduced further to release the light-seed.

Then i understand that these products below are not good:

http://www.whitepowdergold.com/

Some of the newbie sites make silly claims "Within 2 minutes both subjects had their left and right hemispheres go into synchronization and they dropped into the alpha state of brain wave activity. Then the frontal lobes went into sync with the rear quadrants, which made all four quadrants of the brain synchronized. When this happened, they both went into the theta level of brain wave activity, and the 25 year old, having never meditated a day in his life, was making dips into the delta range, which is a range of brain activity deeper than sleep - deep meditation." [ZPtec] Please, you know better than that, this material works deeply to clear away deep blocks but it is not a magic pill that instantly take one into the deepest state of meditation in two minutes with no effort on your part. Independent tests on the same product as well as other available products showed no such results. Many of you have bio-feedback devices and have verified this for yourself. It does help to connect the halves of the brain and with your conscious effort it can assist you to go into deeper states, but as most of you are well aware it is not the instant hit claimed by some of the newage marketers and we do not make any of our formulas, and particularly the Ormes, available with any silly instant enlightenment claims. Although this marketing ploy is obvious others may be less so; with popularity comes profit potential and this is an unregulated area. What does it really mean "perfects your DNA", we'll address that in a bit but in general use discrimination and common sense as you explore this field.

Golden powder would not be only one product good for all in any moment, but it would be necessary to procede from the lower octave to the upper octave.

It is suggested to have a personal remedy with the vibrations corresponding to our need.

Please read here with attention:

http://www.asc-alchemy.com/mono.html

Wow...I appreciate this post. I just couldn't wrap my brain around said claims...though I tried. I was unaware of any health risks too. Thanks again Jaya.

[Essene]

Excellent post jaya, yes there are people who may try to make this stuff but it takes a true alchemist to make this and on the site you recommended it mentioned "Don". I believe it is Don N. that was meant and he is the one who has trained a few people in this art, the alchemist I use included and they in turn train others. The one I know of is from Atlantis Alchemy and he has trained two people I personally know. Yes, beware of claimed alchemist without a recommendation from someone you personally know as I did. I was lucky, my old boss whom I have known for 15 years originally told me of this video and it all clicked and referred me to Atlantis Alchemy. I had some background in the study of magnetic's and gravity and also ran across spin waves a few years ago and it was stated that these molecules in a superdeformed state can release unusual properties. Then I saw the video and it all just clicked. The reason for my interest was to help my fiance whom has multiple sclerosis (MS) and she pretty much gave up the drugs that was available as the side effects where almost as bad as the disease it self. Long story short, I tried it first (M3) which is rhodium, iridium and gold in a supposed monatomic state before I even told my fiance, I had no bad effects, I just felt more alert and yet calm. I told her of this product, she studied it and decided to try it and has not had any symptoms of MS in seven months and she has stated she has never felt better in her life since she has taken the M3. Other effects seem to be age reversal and a more intuitive mentality as in possible PSI (ESP) increase. There are other forums that is all about WPG called ORMUS. Other health issue's have arouse in her family and the doctors cant figure out why its not getting worse, the person is using M3. Study this stuff as I did before you take your leap of faith and also speak with a doctor before ingesting any modality. I am not a doctor and I will not encourage anyone to take this product or any health related product. I will post a few sites that may help your studies. Also beware of the healing crisis. https://secure15.ozhosting.com/ionlife/IONL...omerMessage.asp http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/phil...m#healingcrisis http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/dna.htm http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/health/health.htm

About Ormus

In the website at the bottom of my post it is explained that golden powder suspended in water is not efficient,

on the contrary it can be also dangerous.

If the process is incomplete in a liquid state it may well contain some monatomic elements however there may also be some metal to metal bonds remaining which can damage the liver and kidneys over time. Liquid suspensions made from gold may contain gold hydroxide. This is not due to impurity in the gold- beginning with pure gold the steps, on the way to the powder, convert the metallic gold to a liquid hydroxide. This hydroxide converts to a gold chloride in the stomach as it reacts with hydrochloric acid. You can check the effects of gold chloride here: http://www.ci.tucson.az.us/arthazards/photo2.html (#36).

.....The seed of the plant is in the plant; the seed of the animal is in the animal; and here too the seed rests in the metal.

It is not sufficient merely to melt the gold into molten liquid, it must be reduced further to release the light-seed.

Then i understand that these products below are not good:

http://www.whitepowdergold.com/

Some of the newbie sites make silly claims "Within 2 minutes both subjects had their left and right hemispheres go into synchronization and they dropped into the alpha state of brain wave activity. Then the frontal lobes went into sync with the rear quadrants, which made all four quadrants of the brain synchronized. When this happened, they both went into the theta level of brain wave activity, and the 25 year old, having never meditated a day in his life, was making dips into the delta range, which is a range of brain activity deeper than sleep - deep meditation." [ZPtec] Please, you know better than that, this material works deeply to clear away deep blocks but it is not a magic pill that instantly take one into the deepest state of meditation in two minutes with no effort on your part. Independent tests on the same product as well as other available products showed no such results. Many of you have bio-feedback devices and have verified this for yourself. It does help to connect the halves of the brain and with your conscious effort it can assist you to go into deeper states, but as most of you are well aware it is not the instant hit claimed by some of the newage marketers and we do not make any of our formulas, and particularly the Ormes, available with any silly instant enlightenment claims. Although this marketing ploy is obvious others may be less so; with popularity comes profit potential and this is an unregulated area. What does it really mean "perfects your DNA", we'll address that in a bit but in general use discrimination and common sense as you explore this field.

Golden powder would not be only one product good for all in any moment, but it would be necessary to procede from the lower octave to the upper octave.

It is suggested to have a personal remedy with the vibrations corresponding to our need.

Please read here with attention:

http://www.asc-alchemy.com/mono.html

Edited July 10, 2007 by Essene

[jaya]

Excellent post jaya, yes there are people who may try to make this stuff but it takes a true alchemist to make this and on the site you recommended it mentioned "Don". I believe it is Don N. that was meant and he is the one who has trained a few people in this art, the alchemist I use included and they in turn train others. The one I know of is from Atlantis Alchemy and he has trained two people I personally know. Yes, beware of claimed alchemist without a recommendation from someone you personally know as I did. I was lucky, my old boss whom I have known for 15 years originally told me of this video and it all clicked and referred me to Atlantis Alchemy. I had some background in the study of magnetic's and gravity and also ran across spin waves a few years ago and it was stated that these molecules in a superdeformed state can release unusual properties. Then I saw the video and it all just clicked. The reason for my interest was to help my fiance whom has multiple sclerosis (MS) and she pretty much gave up the drugs that was available as the side effects where almost as bad as the disease it self. Long story short, I tried it first (M3) which is rhodium, iridium and gold in a supposed monatomic state before I even told my fiance, I had no bad effects, I just felt more alert and yet calm. I told her of this product, she studied it and decided to try it and has not had any symptoms of MS in seven months and she has stated she has never felt better in her life since she has taken the M3. Other effects seem to be age reversal and a more intuitive mentality as in possible PSI (ESP) increase. There are other forums that is all about WPG called ORMUS. Other health issue's have arouse in her family and the doctors cant figure out why its not getting worse, the person is using M3. Study this stuff as I did before you take your leap of faith and also speak with a doctor before ingesting any modality. I am not a doctor and I will not encourage anyone to take this product or any health related product. I will post a few sites that may help your studies. Also beware of the healing crisis. https://secure15.ozhosting.com/ionlife/IONL...omerMessage.asp http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/phil...m#healingcrisis http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/dna.htm http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/health/health.htm

[jaya]

Thanks Essene for your infos. I don't Know Alchemy, I only try to understand something and some questions appear.

For the website that i posted, it is very diffcult to understant wich products is better for me.

And more it is not possible to communicate personally and ask any clarifications, we receive an auto replay.

When i red the pages i gave confidence to what they write but i don't like this aspect.

It seems that nobody is in the other side to support your eventual need

I can't ask if it is possible to ship in Italy, often it isn't.

I understant that the time waiting is three months, minimum

You can just add 3 months to the date your order was made to figure your exact shipping date allowing time for USPS --see below please

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Three months is the time it takes to finish one octave--each octave consists of 2 vials (or bottles)so please order with that in mind. As you know there is no problem with a time-break between formulations.

I think, as you suggest ,that it would be better to Know an alchemist.

A normal doctor can't follow the process.

In the website i don't see the aspect of the healing crisis

as here it is:

http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/phil...m#healingcrisis

Some questions:

"This powder is taken under tongue and directly absorbed , then stomac is out, this is one difference from the other products

The high spin powder, formulated through the liquid phases into the powder and then"transformed" through the final steps under extremely high heat and pressure is incredibly light and fine, it is taken under the tongue and absorbed easily sublingually, the issues of digestive acids are relevant to white powder gold or iridium prior to the final steps- this "white powder gold" is the material that is normally available to a certain degree. The issue of digestion and absorption is not relevant in relation to what we would call high-spin ormes, it is not absorbed or digested in the stomach.

... We agree rhodium is more effective for healing the physical body than gold; iridium also-however iridium increases metabolism more than the other elements and can cause undesired growth of aberrant cells. We therefore suggest never taking m-state iridium alone, and for some health concerns-where cell growth is the last thing desired, we would suggest eliminating it entirely

May we know if the rhodium- iridium are in the correct proportion for the person? She is not visited before, her subtle state is unknown

http://www.asc-alchemy.com/mono.html"

In the page that you give me the dangers seems not to exist:

Discusses different effects of rhodium, iridium and gold.

"The iridium and the gold seem to speed up the metabolism of the body about 40% and they seem to not go into the bloodstream and not go through the kidneys. It seems to be taken into the acupuncture system of the body and it seems to be associated with the spinal cord and the thymus. Which, in fact, is the consciousness and the metabolic rate of the body.

http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/health/health.htm

In the previous page

http://www.asc-alchemy.com/mono.html

"We do make the powder available without "charging"; people are sometimes scared by such stories. We do think the charging is important however and the least understood aspect of the alchemical process; it's not in the patent. As he says "But there's as much difference as night and day...ingesting this over the other." People now use the term "charging" in different ways, confusing its meaning and intent. It's very real exoteric physical alchemy with definitive criteria of the type of chamber/oven, type of atmosphere/gas, rate of temperature change and even the number of charging cycles after the powder state is reached; this is done after the powder is formed from the liquid suspension. Once the alchemical foundation is properly laid we greatly enjoy working with more subtle energy techniques. We mention scalar waves in the technology section. There are numerous ways to create scalar waves, many of you are familiar with Tesla's work but perhaps more interesting is the use of natural scalar waves that can be created with crystal grids, crystals in geometric patterns. The angles between the crystals important for those doing their own research. More importantly is the honoring of the crystals as conscious evolving life-forms; this goes well beyond technology into co-creation."

The question can be the same: the charging . The scalar wave and the spin are he same for everyone.

I can that for me it is of difficult understading

In the powder gold faq (same page)

"Because they possess the properties of metals, the transition elements are also known as the transition metals. Study any text on alchemy; the beginner starts with plant alchemy, and includes the sea salt preparations, in time graduating to working with minerals and ultimately to the precious metals; the precious metals always referenced as the highest, most powerful form of alchemy and the most difficult to master......."

Then i don't understant if we have to pass through all differents formulas.

In few words i don't know wich product i could buy .

There are too many , one specific on regeneration , why one specific if the golden powder works in this way?

In conclusion when you assumed the product , Essen , had you an alchemist that controled you?

In any case you have bought a product in web .

The best would be that the alchimist made the product for you or...that you become alchemist and made your remedy as the alchimists did.

It's a problem.

However i see that there is people satisfied.

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What is Alchemy: Alchemy is one of the Hermetic arts and is based on the idea that divine order was placed on the universe with ‘prima materia’ or first matter. Everything is made of this matter, which is, in essence, the Philosopher’s Stone.Said to exist everywhere, if the ‘stone’ can be manufactured, then one thing can be transmuted into something more perfect, gold being the usual end product as it is perfect and most closely echoes the perfection of God.The name alchemy comes from the Arab’s name for Egypt, ‘Khem,’ a country that took gold-working to great heights. The precursor of chemistry - most chemistry equipment was devised by alchemists - such notables as Albrecht, Roger Bacon and Isaac Newton were known to be alchemists.

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Depends on the Alchemy you are talking about.

there was 1.) The alchemy of the guild of traveling quacks

2.) The medical alchemy (which is nothing but rudimentary bio chemistry) as practiced by Helmond, Llulius and Paracelsus

3.) The experimental alchemy (now we call it chemistry)

4.) The spiritual alchemy (mostly practiced by those who need an ersatz-religion)

5.) The physical alchemy (now we call it physics) practiced by Bacon, Newton and Gauss

Al-Kema may have been the Arabian name for Egypt, but lacking a better name name the early concept of science and research was also called that. Science was almost extinct in Europe during the middle ages and came back through Moorish Spain, therefore the name (latinized to alchemia) was kept.

In out times all interest seems to go to the first category and everybody who had something to do with science before or during the renaissance is attributed to have been an Alchemist. Well, most of them had very little to do with what we consider alchemy.

The panacea, or the cure for all illnesses as devised by Hippocrates was converted to the "stone of the wise" by the guild. The other "goal" was to manufacture gold. But that is easy ... because most of the members of the guild of traveling quacks were con-artists who knew little about anything except enough mumbo-jumbo to pull a quick one on some gullible soul and disappear with their money.

[Essene]

Sorry for the delay in response. Evidently you can turn dead sea salts and other salts into gold and other precious metals, I will give a link on that. As for an Alchemist near the EU he is in Great Briton and evidently has trained under Don, do a google search or what ever search you use over there. I will also give a little more insight on the science of this. The link for making gold is http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/dsassays.htm <QUOTE From Forum Member> Hi Barry,

Excellent articles on resonance, vibration, and quantum coherence concerning

ormus. It appears that the boson box/cage framework is a good model to explain

properties of ormus. Well done!

It reminds me of Michael Grady's theory of a Liquid Phase Transition model of

our Universe. (this actually fits in a more inclusive Fractal Hologram Model).

Anyway, his idea is that the Universe is a giant crystal growing in a

five-dimensional liquid and quantum fluctuations are simply the random sloshing

back and forth of heat in the bulk of the fluid. "These heat fluctuations

continually buffet the phase boundary in which we live.

Now, the subatomic particles that form the building blocks of our world, these

particles come in two types: "fermions" such as electrons, which obey the Pauli

exclusion principle forbidding two particles from occupying the same quantum

state; and "bosons" such as photons, which observe no such restrictions. Grady

believes bosons are "phonons", or vibrations of the crystal lattice, while

fermions are defects of the lattice known as "screw dislocations". Think of the

planes of a crystal as the stacked floors of a multistory parking lot," says

Grady. "A screw dislocation is like the spiral ramp connecting the floors."

Two identical screw dislocations obey the Pauli exclusion principle because

they repel each other when forced together. And a mirror-image pair of screw

dislocations, differing only in the sense in which they spiral, behave just like

a particle and its antiparticle. When they meet, they cancel each other and are

annihilated in a burst of energy. The opposite of this process is "pair

production", in which two screw dislocations of opposite sense pop into

existence if vibrational energy is supplied to the lattice.

According to Grady, screw dislocations even obey Einstein's special theory of

relativity, with the speed of sound in the solid acting like the speed of light

in our Universe. The link between the speed of sound and the rate at which screw

dislocations can travel was first shown by the Russian physicists J. Frenkel and

T. Kontorowa in 1938. According the their picture, as a screw dislocation

approaches this limiting speed it compresses in the direction of motion by

exactly the amount predicted by Einstein. At the same time, the stress energy of

the screw dislocation rises, again in accord with Einstein. "At the speed of

sound, the energy, and hence the effective mass, of the dislocation becomes

infinite," says Grady. "Fermionic matter is therefore prevented from traveling

faster than light.

Anyway, ORMUS elements exhibit quantum properties and behaviors which are only

associated with bosons.

So, since bosons are force carrying particles...ORMUS platinum group metals

etc., must be a type of boson despite the fact that metallic platinum group

metals are fermions. Further, quantum coherence, quantum non-locality,

superconductivity, tunneling and other generally strange behaviors are

associated with bosons but not fermions.

Further, this means that a particle acts as if it were a spherical oscillator.

(Quantum theory requires particles to meet this requirment, that the frequency

of its waves to be proportional to its mass in accordance with the formula f =

mc2/h.)

And, these particles as an oscillator, exhibit a Standing Wave Center that

resists coupling unless both have the same resonant frequency. Thus the term

Particle and Standing Wave Center are interchangable.

So, these Higgs fields are also scalar fields which tap into dark energy.

This gets into Zero Point Energy, the Aether and so on...

Which leads me too Hans Jenny's Cymatics; where a vibrating surface is covered

with sand and the frequency of the vibration creates patterns -- apply this in

3D/4D

and the over sensitivity to frequency processing in our brains points to the

emergence of 'archeypal' forms.

And, ultimately making the leap to our analysis of fundamental particles.

Which has led to the distinctions of two basic types -- fermions and bosons. Is

it coincidence that the general behaviours of these types reflect properties of

objects (fermion-like, no superpositions, discrete) and relationships? And

(boson-like, superpositions, waves) which seem to be a possible link of brain

oscillation behaviour and the resulting patterns to the beginnings of the

universe based on the oscillations, the dynamics of fermion/boson interactions?

A quote from the American Institute of Physics:

"A superfluid is a liquid that flows without viscosity or inner friction. For

a liquid to become superfluid, the atoms or molecules making up the liquid must

be cooled or "condensed" to the point at which they all occupy the same quantum

state. A liquid of helium-3, an atom whose nucleus is made up of an odd number

of particles, is a type of particle known as a fermion. Groups of fermions are

not allowed to occupy the same quantum state.

By cooling the liquid to a low enough temperature, helium-3 atoms can pair up

(left panel). The number of particles in each nucleus adds up to an even number,

making it a type of particle known as a boson. Groups of bosons can fall into

the same quantum state, and therefore superfluidity can be achieved. Helium-4

(middle panel), a boson, does not need to pair up to form a superfluid; groups

of helium-4 atoms condense into the superfluid state at about 2 degrees above

absolute zero. Superfluidity, especially the kind that exists in helium-3, is

analogous to conventional low-temperature superconductivity, in which electrons

flow through certain metals and alloys without resistance. In a superconductor

(right panel), electrons, which are fermions, pair up in the metal crystal to

form "Cooper pairs," bosons which can then condense into a superconducting

state."

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg1612...ic-crystal.html

Barry wrote:

Dear David,

Thanks for a very well written description of this concept. I

generally use one of Hans Jenny's videos in my workshop to illustrate

this concept.

If I might add a bit on to your explanation and relate it to ORMUS:

Imagine that the ORMUS elements can function as quantum coherent

resonators. Now imagine that these resonators hang out inside of the

balloon and that the balloon is a water molecule. If the resonators

changed frequency then the shape of the water molecules would change

in response.

I have written three articles on this theory starting in 2002:

http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/box.htm

2004 from my Workshop slide show:

http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/resonance.htm

2006:

http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/spincoherence.htm

At 09:44 PM 7/13/2007, you wrote:

>Hi Bo,

>

> You are on to something!

>

> You are getting into Sympathetic Vibration & Fractal

> Geometry. From a physics [ PHI - CYCLES ] point of view, the

> fundamental basis of all natural phenomena is vibration. All

> natural forces manifest to us in a vibratory or cyclical manner.

>

> Standing Waves - sound and form - When a vibration or wave

> reflects off of something, such as another wave, it can interfere

> with its own reflection. The interference is alternately

> constructive or destructive as the two waves move past each other.

> This creates a standing wave . Only waves with certain frequencies

> can create standing waves. This is because the distance from one

> node to the next must always be some fraction of the total length

> (one half, one third, etc.).

>

> All objects have a frequency or set of frequencies with which

> they naturally resonate when struck, plucked, strummed or somehow

> disturbed. Each of the natural frequencies at which an object

> vibrates is associated with a standing wave pattern. When an object

> is forced into resonance vibrations at one of its natural

> frequencies, it vibrates in a manner such that a standing wave is

> formed within the object. So the natural frequencies of an object

> are merely the harmonic frequencies at which standing wave patterns

> are established within the object.

>

> These standing wave patterns represent the lowest energy

> vibrational modes of the object or complex system. While there are

> countless way by which an object can vibrate (each associated with

> a specific frequency), objects favor only a few specific modes or

> patterns of vibrating.

>

>The favored modes (patterns) of vibration are those which result in

>the highest amplitude vibrations with the least input of energy.

>

> In 3D standing waves, a structure, with all characteristics of a

> platonic solid, is formed for each standing wave mode. Within an

> atom, which is the building block of matter, the platonic solid is

> not formed by salt or known particles, but by electromagnetic waves in vacuum.

>

>Both the students of Buckminster Fuller and his protege Dr. Hans

>Jenny devised clever experiments that showed how the Platonic Solids

>would form within a vibrating / pulsating 3D sphere.

>

>In the experiment conducted by Fuller's students, a spherical

>balloon was dipped in dye and pulsed with pure sine wave sound

>frequencies. A small number of evenly-distanced nodes would form

>across the surface of the sphere, as well as thin lines that

>connected them to each other.

>

>If you have four evenly spaced nodes, you will see a tetrahedron.

>Six evenly spaced nodes form an octahedron.

>Eight evenly spaced nodes form a cube.

>Twelve evenly spaced nodes form the icosahedron

>and twenty evenly spaced nodes form the dodecahedron.

>

>The straight lines that we see on these geometric objects simply

>represent the stresses that are created by the closest distance

>between two points for each of the nodes as they distribute

>themselves across the entire surface of the sphere