I believe that next 1000 years will deal with many things we cannot imagine in this day and age. Things we can't predict and can't prepare for. Expect the unexpected.

Whyyy!!! I think it would be an interesting topic .

The world in 1,000 years from now. Most likely non-existent. But if not, hopefully we have found a cure for many diseases, traveled to Mars or beyond. Increased our scientific and medical thinking, and a lot less land. I figure the coastal area's will be under water due to global warming...or at least some of them anyway.

Good Topic Blue

Agreed ES.



err 1000 yrs from now, thats if we make it that far, i'd have to say.....I Freaking Human Robots.

I think it will be like this 1000 Years From Now

hahahahaa

gross, maybe they will be wearing corduroys again hahahahahahahaaa, yeah, it might not be there anyways.

You never know stranger things have happened . LOL

kind of depends if you’re an optimist or a pessimist... if you’re a pessimist, then it’ll probably be a ruined radioactive wasteland, where handfuls of stone age humans struggle to avoid extinction.

If you’re a optimist then it’ll be something like Star Trek, where cities and people are in harmony with nature, genetic defects and diseases are easily remedied, everyone is equal, there isn’t any poverty, and a persons sexuality and religion is their private concern. There should be colonies on the Moon and Mars by then, Mars might even be well into tera-forming making it more habitable, I’d expect there to be large space stations and refineries in orbit around several planets and moons, FTL technology might be possible with the help of supercomputers. who knows, there are many possibilities... IMO

we will look like D.A.O.T.F. human
lol
we can with genetic change

by then jesus would have already returned and done his thing so.. WHO CARES

optimist : robot do your works
pesimist : waterworld

I believe it will look at like the Stone Age, and I look forward to it! That is the best path for mankind. We are Stone Age creatures trapped in the modern world of slavery and ecocide.
Civilization will not last 1000 years into the future. I doubt it will last much past 100 years, but I hope it comes down soon, within 20-30 years. Why do I thin this?

Because modern civilization is based on oil. We have reached, or will reach peak oil soon. It is downhill from here. Everything will keep getting more expensive, until this civilization crumbles from lack of cheap energy. Everything is based on oil, from agriculture to manufacturing to transportation.

Why is civilization crumbling a good thing? because civilization is killing the planet. Each year more and more species become extinct or threatened with extinction caused entirely by industrialized man through pollution, global warming, and habitat destruction.

I'll post more in-depth if you all would like me to!

Good points Adalwolf, wouldn't surprise me if man will head on a path of self extinction after he's plundered/pillaged all natural resources.

I try to look/give myself a more realistic time frame out look of say even between 50-150yrs into the future as looking like George Orwell's 1984.




Post away in more depth, these topics always created great debate.

I had this bookmarked and posted on another thread several weeks back...

Energy and Human Evolution David Price.
The human species may be seen as having evolved in the service of entropy, and it cannot be expected to outlast the dense accumulations of energy that have helped define its niche. Human beings like to believe they are in control of their destiny, but when the history of life on Earth is seen in perspective, the evolution of Homo sapiens is merely a transient episode that acts to redress the planet's energy balance.
"The use of extrasomatic energy, and especially energy from fossil fuels, has made it possible for humans to exploit a wealth of resources that accumulated before they evolved.")
The Human Cycle/Other voices Updated 17/09/2007



That old saying i guess of 'sometimes you got to look back to our past/history to visualize where we maybe heading into the future'...or something like that. lol!

I don't know really. Probably pretty advance. Tech wise. It'll be kinda like The Jetsons cartoon.

The world will be exactly the same, people will shop, corperations will try to sell us things we don't need and there will be many environmental or social causes that will require you to donate £100/$200 a month. There will be more pointless celabrations created just to increase the sales of greetings cards, but perhaps fish might be able to talk or something like that. Someone will clone many copies of me in order to take over the world but will become depressed when the millions of clones of me all log on to the same forum in order to make comment on how the world will be in a thousand years from a thousand years from now thus saving the earth from yet another mediocre fate.

idiocrazy ??

A time to sow and a time to reap
A time for peace and a time for war
A time for joy and a time to cry

All in all, in a 1000 years they will be saying the same thing, "What will a 1000 years from now will be like!?" "...and saying the end is near!"

Food will come in pill form and it will be required by law to ask "Would you like fries with that? in pill form also"

Armageddon Finally Comes

[Music by Lord Ahriman. Lyrics by Emperor Magus Caligula]

The earth quakes, and the seas are rising.
As the warlock look deep into the flames.
The fire of evil, are reflected in his abysmal eyes.
As he calls upon the ancient ones.
I call upon thee, keeper of the darkest flame.
To drink from the chalice of souls.
I call upon thee, king of all beasts.
Lord of the hunt, silent stalker of the night.
I call upon thee, keeper of all hatred and anguish.
The one who holds the cosmic pain.
I call upon thee, custodian of the infernal legions.
God of war and the hatred storms.

The sky spit flames, Armageddon has come.
The wrath of Satan descends upon this mortal world.
Men revert to beasts, suicidal despair for his glory.
Every mind is clutched in terror,
As a vortex of evil surrounds the warlock flames.

The legions of Satan trample through the flames.
The earth is scared and burned like dead skin.
Angels blood smirched the Nazarene divine kingdom.
Armageddon finally comes.
The wind carry ashes and the smell of burned flesh,
The rivers are filled with blood.
The mortals are captured in an irreversible strife for their souls,
Against the unyielding forces of..........EVIL........
Armageddon finally comes.

Angels weep, as they slowly sink down the spears.
Their kingdom is gone, now ruled by the cloven hooves.
Once again the Nazarene whore is nailed,
But this time no devotees are left behind




http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/darkfuner...interium.html#7

This is waht I thought of when I read the previous posts:
In the year 2525
If man is still alive
If woman can survive
They may find

In the year 3535
Ain't gonna need to tell the truth, tell no lie
Everything you think, do and say
Is in the pill you took today

In the year 4545
You ain't gonna need your teeth, won't need your eyes
You won't find a thing to chew
Nobody's gonna look at you

In the year 5555
Your arms hangin' limp at your sides
Your legs got nothin' to do
Some machine's doin' that for you

In the year 6565
You won't need no husband, won't need no wife
You'll pick your son, pick your daughter too
From the bottom of a long glass tube

In the year 7510
If God's a-coming, He oughta make it by then
Maybe He'll look around Himself and say
"Guess it's time for the judgement day"

In the year 8510
God is gonna shake His mighty head
He'll either say "I'm pleased where man has been"
Or tear it down, and start again

In the year 9595
I'm kinda wonderin' if man is gonna be alive
He's taken everything this old earth can give
And he ain't put back nothing

Now it's been ten thousand years
Man has cried a billion tears
For what, he never knew
Now man's reign is through

But through eternal night
The twinkling of starlight
So very far away

Most all animals will be extinct, except for (filthy b******) cockroaches. Genetic engineering will be as common as aspirin. 80% of all children born will have birth defects due to the inbreeding brought on by racism and territoriality. People will rely on soy based products for food. The sunshine will be replaced by rain.

The government will have eliminated physical money and make us use atm type cards. They say it is for our benefit and will relieve theivery. But the real reason is so that they can collect information on us - How and what we spend our money on. If you are not the type of citizen they feel is appropriate, they will have you executed. Not to worry, because there is an underground organisation that will hide you from them. Oh wait. That is already happening!

I posted a bunch of predictions in the first post. Please read thanks. :0)

Oh, did you not want us to add to the list?

No.^ I can see all. I know the whole future. Stop flaming.

What was I flaming? Goodness you are super sensitive.

Im not sure how i could have responded to your post any differently ! That was a light as i could make it. Anyway don't respond to this. Make a post or carry on. Thanks.

I honestly have no idea what you are referring to. But, you are being very rude to me and for no reason whatsoever. Too bad, because this would have been a fun topic to post in. Cheers.

Where those serious predictions, because some of them were just...... out there.

I honestly can't say. Good, bad, horrible, who knows? It's probably beyond our comprehension, just as you would expect from a person 1000 years ago asked the same question.

Your right. Im not up to par lately. I have deleted a few posts iv'e made lately. Iv'e just been so busy and haven't put as much thought in my posts as i usually do. That being said im deleting those posts above.

Just a little looksy into the not to distant future of man and what they eventually have install for us all.
This ain't no conspiracy as the source is the ''abc'' america...although i'm sure theres a lot more to it all then they let on.
Incidentally quite a few yrs back people(''conspiracy nuts'')were getting gagged and bagged or even labeled froot loopy for even talking of such things, and now...

Government Human Micro-chipping
The idea for Human Microchipping came from dogs. Woof Woof! lol!


This is almost all common knowledge that is 'slowly but surely' being pumped out into the mainstream and spoon fed to the masses...tis the best way to get the publics acceptance without too much protest...



I recommend watching the other 3 or 4 parts to this...
No Place to Hide: Part 1

I watched both of the videos and after this post i will watch the other parts. Very interesting. I wonder when the day will come? When some company out there will advertise there microchips available for implantation. They might use such slogans as "Keep your children safe from abduction", or "Want to make sure you never lose your pets?"

While these are good ideas i think the idea of implanting location chips is scary and a loss of freedom. However, knowing were your child is if they were abducted would probably save there life. I think the chips should be used on pets but thats it. Im pretty sure i still wouldn't want my kids if i had any to have microchips.

This is one of my most fav songs ever. The original is the best but many artists out there have made excellent re-mixes of the 2525 song.

Yea i agree Blue, but when not if they going to implant humans in the future, implant all the crims rather than the children or anyone for that matter if they're worried about abductions. I think its all fear creating tactics they use to get public acceptance.


later.

To be serious for just a moment (because thats all I can manage these days) if you really want to know what the future holds in a thousand years from now you just have to look back at the last thousand years. The future will be pretty much like today. Things will change, technology will improve and so on but there will still be hierarchies, fair enough they might not be the same hierarchies that we see today, but they will still exist. There will still be crime, it may not be theft violence or murder in the sense that we understand it but it will still exist. Identity theft for instance may not mean that someone has stolen information to enable them to pretend to be you, it may mean that the have stolen your identity, body and all. There will still be bigotry, however it may not be the bigotry that exists today that is focused upon ethnic or social groups, it could be centred upon entirely new species that have come into existence via technology, such as intelligent machines. War will still exist, however it may be reduced to opposing factions coming together and fighting it out in a virtual landscape, or even wars might be fought over control of virtual landscapes or territory outside of this Earth. We will no doubt solve some of the mysteries that have confounded man over the last thousand years such as the nature of ghosts or the existence of life on other worlds. However these will be replaced by new mysteries for man to ponder over. Laws will be passed that reflect the changes in society, perhaps we will still be around to see machines get the vote, though I believe that that wont happen for many centuries. Communication technology will advance, instead of television there may be other forms of media that take its place such as virtual soaps where the participant can either join in with events or merely watch what is happening. People will live longer and be able to alter their physical appearence as easily as going to a shop and buying a new suit. There will be new deseases and there will be deseases that have been consigned to history. Perhaps there will be biology classes that talk about the olden days when people used to die from something that was called Cancer. Pets may become something entirely new, as people are able to purchase off the shelf genetically engineered animals. There will still be fads, there will still be trends and there will still be fashons to follow but all in all people will still wake up in the morning, perhaps after enjoying a digitally created dream, consume their breakfast and go out to work, just as they have for the last thousand years.

Interesting thoughts.

maybe ??????

Sorry for the delay, but I was busy with tests.

Here it goes:

A few months ago I was introduced to anarcho-primitivism. Anarcho-primitivism is basically a critique on civilization. For some reason I was drawn to this philosophy, something inside me clicked, so to speak. I began to research the beliefs more deeply, and the reasoning behind this distrust, and even hatred for civilization.

While I am by no means and expert on this subject, I would like to introduce for discussion, its validity, your responses, etc. I also would like to hear all of your views on civilization itself.

To start off, I would like to use some quotes that demonstrate my newfound beliefs on civilization:

“Civilization originates in conquest abroad and repression at home.” –Jared Diamond

“Industrial technology is by nature exploitative and destructive of the materials that are necessary to maintain it.” –Richard T. LaPiere

“A visitor from Mars could easily pick out the civilized nations. They have the best implements for war.” –Herbert V. Prochnow

“Civilization is not and can never be sustainable. This is especially true for industrial civilization.” –Derrick Jensen

As you can tell, I have become very critical of civilization, and for could reason. Civilization is based upon slavery. Now, before you point out that slavery, actual owning of other people, has been abolished in ‘civilized’ nations for over 100 years, we must look closer at society. People are slaves to money and to those in power for everything necessary for survival. People have to pay to even exist on planet Earth, for water, for food, for everything that comes freely in nature.

People pay for these because they are told it is natural and right, by governments, bosses, by society itself. Why do those in control tell people this? to improve their own economic standing; to become wealthy. This wealth comes at the expense of the environment, of the plants and animals, and of other people around the world.

People are dependent on food imported (ie: stolen) from around the world, for clothing, for water from those in power, as local food has been exterminated, water has been polluted.

Civilization is not sustainable. It is based on fossil fuels, which unreplinishable. Fossil fuels also pollute, and are destroying the environment around the world, from melting the ice caps to acid rain. Dams are built which kill rivers, and everything in them. Civilization give people the impression that they are not part of the natural, that people are somehow above the rest of life on earth, which is absurd. What gives people the right to kill of entire species? What gives people the right to kill the earth for monetary gain? Nothing. It is shameful and should be stopped, the sooner the better, before more harm is done.
Civilization has made great medical advances, true, but civilization caused many of the illnesses it treats by the horribly absurd amounts of pollution it has, and continues to produce. Hunter-Gathering peoples lived long and healthy lives, the only negative being high infant mortality rates. However, hunter-gather societies did not destroy the planet, as civilization. Now, many ‘civilized’ feel that hunter gatherers had hard lives, and modern life is much preferable. However,” if you measure some standards, such as the number automobiles, yes; if you measure others, such as leisure time, sustainability, social equality, and food security—meaning no one goes hungry—hunter-gatherers win hands down…” (Jensen, Endgame Volume I pg 52).

So, if you value things and wealth above equality, sustainability, environmental health, then yes, civilization is better. (If you do value things and wealth above life, then there is no help for you)

One reason why hunter-gatherers had food security and sustainability is because a) the limited their population so they would not outstrip what their land-base could sustain and they did not over hunt, over-gather (lol, is that a word?) so their land base wouldn’t be harmed. They also moved from place to place so they would not strip the land bare.

Civilization does not respect life. It uses life to gain wealth and power into the hands of a few elites, be the kings, dictators, or politicians. Civilization does not respect the natural world. It uses, abuses, and destroys it. Anyone who values life should oppose civilization.

Hunter-gatherers also have much more leisure time. "Typically, immediate-return hunter-gatherers spend only three or four hours per day working at what we could call economic activities. This work involves hunting a large number of animal species and gathering a large variety of plant material," (Gowdy, page xxi)

A year ago I wouldn’t be writing this. A year ago I was enamored with civilization, or rather the perceived benifets of civilization: wealth and things. My eyes are open now, and hopefully all of yours will open to.

*This isn’t worded, phrased as eloquently as I would like it to, but I want to share this with you all as soon as possible*












Info on anarcho-primitivism and where I got lots of my info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-primitivism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Zerzan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derrick_Jensen
http://www.insurgentdesire.org.uk/index.htm (this has lots of great articles and essays)


Endgame Volume 1: The Problem of Civilization by Derrick Jensen
Endgame Volume 2: Resistance by Derrick Jensen
Limited Wants, Unlimited Means: A reader on Hunter-Gatherer economics and the environment by John Gowdy

The movie Surplus: terrorized into being consumers (it is in 10 parts, the link is the first part, and you can find the others through this link)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AEiwOM4fAY

The movie dead society:
http://deadsociety.org/view.html

Also from lectures, discussions, arguments, my personal observations.



I original posted this on another forum critiquing civilization and why it is harmful and why it should be abandoned. This caused a huge flame war, which I hope won't happen here.
To sum it all up: Civilization is destroying the planet and is unsustainable. From its start it has destroyed its environment, and continues too on a larger scale than ever before. For the world to survive, for salmon to survive, for man to survive, civilization must be abandoned. If it does not, then it mankind is doomed.

Hopefully you all find this interesting, and won't start a flame war!

No comments?
Should I start a new thread??